Modern Warfare 3 gameplay - Anything new?

[Nocola]

I'm going to level with you here folks, I enjoyed Modern Warfare 2 well enough. I'm a huge single player and co-op fan, as opposed to multiplayer which for whatever reason seems to be a looking glass into the very worst of human kind - and I even played that a fair bit. (However much it pained me at times).

So when Black Ops came out I picked it up, albeit regrettably for PC. I didn't enjoy it as much as Modern Warfare 2, it just didn't have the right feel, to me anyway, and so the thought of a Modern Warfare 3 sounded ironically refreshing.

Aaaaaand then gameplay footage got released. A whole level in fact... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNjCv9OIF-M

Now, correct me if I'm wrong but when you release new levels or maps for the same game it's called DLC right? It usually costs anywhere from 5 to 15 dollars. As I watched in utter dismay, I came to the sweeping realization that I do not see one new gameplay element. It looks, sounds, plays, moves, acts, and feels utterly identical to Modern Warfare 2. Now I'm no game designer but when you make a new game and sell it at full, or as I call it " pretty much criminal" price aren't you supposed to you know, innovate? add something new? never before seen? be creative? Tweaks such as a more pronounced kick-back when shot, an interchangeable sight, a new kind of flash grenade are not gameplay elements they are fluff, small changes which don't make a real difference to the experience, they are small improvements which should be released in an update. I invite you to please watch the gameplay and tell me if you see something new.

Now I'm aware there is a new mode, survival mode, and that's all well and good but the core game at it's heart seems to be... well, frankly the same game with new levels. It's literally astonishing how much hasn't changed. So please discuss, I'm sure you all have thoughts on this.

 

[neonsword13-ops]

Hmmm, where have I seen this two times before? HMMMMMMMM....

Can't say it looks impressive because i've seen it two times before.

 

[TheNaut131]

Well, this pretty much sums up my opinions quite nicely.

Edit: Okay, time for some clarity.

Now, I thought I'd explain what I didn't like about MW2, but I think this will be a bit easier and make sense.

MW3 is the same game, I already didn't like, again. Aside from the stupid things like Shepard randomly killing you, I never really liked the series. COD 4 had that amazing nuke scene that now one seems to really care about and I will admit that No Russian was random, yet quite interesting move, but after that I didn't really feel compelled to play the game anymore. It just didn't interest me. I watched the rest as a play through, thought the ending was kinda cool, but didn't feel like I was missing much. I will admit, MW2 did a lot of cool things like the juggernauts, the museum, etc, etc but the overall gameplay just wasn't for me. The multiplayer lost my amusement fast, and I wasn't going to pick up Black Ops, just so I could play zombie mode.

Listen, it's okay for the game to follow a similar formula if it works, if it makes them money, and if people honestly enjoy it. Frankly, I'm tired of hearing about innovation this and innovation that, because a lot of people don't exactly know what they mean when they want. I don't hate Call of Duty, I don't like hearing people ***** about how it only appeals to children, etc, etc, etc but I personally don't want to play the same thing again, with the same mediocre plot of world war 3, and I don't want to play the same "iffy" multiplayer.

Alright? And can we all at least wait to yell at each other until the game is out?

 

[XMark]

A record-breaking number of people bought MW2 exactly because they wanted more of the same as COD4 but with bigger explosions. They'll make what sells, it's as simple as that.

MW3: more of the same as MW2 but with bigger explosions.

And yeah, I'm gonna be buying it too... what can I say? I like the formula.

 

[F4LL3N]

I love how some people automatically hate a game that's not even out yet just because it's popular.

The Call of Duty series is pretty much superior in every form to every other FPS, and infact any other genre game. Anyone who can't see that needs to open their eyes.

I remember when MW2 first came out I twittered #fourtwozeo telling him they ruined the Call of Duty franchise. I was a silly boy back then. Now I'm just riding the wave of success and loving it.

 

[Kahunaburger]

Commando Pro is the replacement for the sniper rifle.

 

[Laser Priest]

My guess:

- More "LOOK AT THIS FANCY SHIT!" guns that feel no different from every other bloody weapon in the game

- More totally unbalanced and unentertaining multiplayer gameplay!

- Oh! And a survival mode that isn't Infinity Ward finally realizing that the survival modes were the most popular parts of World at War and Black Ops.

 

[Laser Priest]

I love how some people automatically hate a game that's not even out yet just because it's popular.

The Call of Duty series is pretty much superior in every form to every other FPS, and infact any other genre game. Anyone who can't see that needs to open their eyes.

I remember when MW2 first came out I twittered #fourtwozeo telling him they ruined the Call of Duty franchise. I was a silly boy back then. Now I'm just riding the wave of success and loving it.

And of course everyone who disagrees with you is just one of those hipsters! It's not like anyone can not like Call of Duty! After all, you like it! For them to dislike it, they'd need differing opinions or other such madness!

 

[Sniper Team 4]

I liked Modern Warfare 2, and to be honest, all shooter feel pretty much the same to me nowadays. Since I think the formula works though, I see no reason why it needs to change. If, as fans constantly demand, every new game that ever came out did something new and innovative, I'm pretty sure we would have cured cancer, colonized Mars, and developed time travel by now. Developers can only do so much innovation over time (and the principle 'If it ain't broke, don't fix it applies'), and most of the time when they do try something new, fans throw it back in their face complaining they changed it. Just look at the reaction the Wii got from hardcore gamers.

 

[F4LL3N]

And of course everyone who disagrees with you is just one of those hipsters! It's not like anyone can not like Call of Duty! After all, you like it! For them to dislike it, they'd need differing opinions or other such madness!

That argument doesn't work with me, sorry. When someone goes out of their way to make a video saying a game sucks, when there's very little information known about it and is still over 4 months from release, then yes, they are probably just a member of the "We hate Call of Duty for very loose reasons" club.

Innovation is one of the worst arguments, especially when Call of Duty is one of the few titles who actually have a solid and polished formula.

 

[Laser Priest]

And of course everyone who disagrees with you is just one of those hipsters! It's not like anyone can not like Call of Duty! After all, you like it! For them to dislike it, they'd need differing opinions or other such madness!

That argument doesn't work with me, sorry. When someone goes out of their way to make a video saying a game sucks, when there's very little information known about it and is still over 4 months from release, then yes, they are probably just a member of the "We hate Call of Duty for very loose reasons" club.

Innovation is one of the worst arguments, especially when Call of Duty is one of the few titles who actually have a solid and polished formula.

I'd say it's a reasonable assumption that they haven't changed much since their miserable excuse for a formula between MW2 and this. They didn't change much between MW1 and MW2.

FPSs age poorly. Innovation is good to have in a shooter, especially when your series is as bland from the start as Call of Duty.

 

[jackpackage200]

Gaming hipsters hate COD because it is too mainstream. The real reason to hate this game is the formula story, unchanged gameplay, and the fact the campaign is only there to satisfy people who do not have access to xbox live or the psn. You get the feeling Infinity Ward is just playing it safe.

 

[ninja51]

I wont be buying MW3, I will be pre-ordering Battlefield though. Bad Company 2 is currently the best military shooter on the market. But to avoid the typical "MW3 sucks! Battlefield rules!/ Battlefield's shit! MW3 rocks!" Type arguement, let me say Skyrim will be better than both. Doesnt even matter it isnt in the same genre!

 

[koroem]

Now, correct me if I'm wrong but when you release new levels or maps for the same game it's called DLC right? It usually costs anywhere from 5 to 15 dollars. As I watched in utter dismay, I came to the sweeping realization that I do not see one new gameplay element. It looks, sounds, plays, moves, acts, and feels utterly identical to Modern Warfare 2.

Nocola, meet Activision.
Acivision meet Nocola.

Bobby Kotick will be out shortly to consume your soul.

 

[The Lawn]

And of course everyone who disagrees with you is just one of those hipsters! It's not like anyone can not like Call of Duty! After all, you like it! For them to dislike it, they'd need differing opinions or other such madness!

That argument doesn't work with me, sorry. When someone goes out of their way to make a video saying a game sucks, when there's very little information known about it and is still over 4 months from release, then yes, they are probably just a member of the "We hate Call of Duty for very loose reasons" club.

Innovation is one of the worst arguments, especially when Call of Duty is one of the few titles who actually have a solid and polished formula.

The last part made me laugh. MW2 was one of the least polished, most hideously unbalanced piles of dog mess I have ever had the misfortune of playing.

While it may not be a bad game, there are worse, it's definitely not a great game.
Sure it sold in record numbers, because all the teenagers feel the need to have it to feel like they belong to the cool gamer kid crowd.

But it's successful in a way that McDonalds is successful.
It's everywhere, and its a quick cheap thrill, that's neither thought provoking or meaningful in any way.

 

[Braedan]

I love how some people automatically hate a game that's not even out yet just because it's popular.

The Call of Duty series is pretty much superior in every form to every other FPS, and infact any other genre game. Anyone who can't see that needs to open their eyes.

I remember when MW2 first came out I twittered #fourtwozeo telling him they ruined the Call of Duty franchise. I was a silly boy back then. Now I'm just riding the wave of success and loving it.

Any other genre game? Speaking of ignorance, I think Starcraft 2 has MUCH better RTS elements than CODBLOPS. I believe that even an ancient game like Decent Freespace has better space combat too.

This is like saying that Fallout: NV is just like Fallout 3 because they look the same.

The game's not even out yet, why not save time and energy from getting frustrated at something that you haven't experienced yet? There really are better things to talk about rather than this flame bait nonsense.

That's a pretty poor example though, because while they use the same engine, NV DID innovate, with a tonne of new things, like faction rep, cooking, ammo crafting etc.
He's not saying they look the same, he's saying they play the same.
Also the fallout games have always been about story much more than game play anyways.

 

[F4LL3N]

I'd say it's a reasonable assumption that they haven't changed much since their miserable excuse for a formula between MW2 and this. They didn't change much between MW1 and MW2.

FPSs age poorly. Innovation is good to have in a shooter, especially when your series is as bland from the start as Call of Duty.

They changed heaps in Modern Warfare 2. Map design, Pro Perks, Custom Killstreaks, Deathstreaks, Callsigns/emblems, weapons, equipment. They changed most things but the engine, which was simply upgraded - and it's one of the best engines out.

 

[redeemer09]

I love how some people automatically hate a game that's not even out yet just because it's popular.

The Call of Duty series is pretty much superior in every form to every other FPS, and infact any other genre game. Anyone who can't see that needs to open their eyes.

I remember when MW2 first came out I twittered #fourtwozeo telling him they ruined the Call of Duty franchise. I was a silly boy back then. Now I'm just riding the wave of success and loving it.

you havent play fps for that long have you?

 

[Kahunaburger]

I'd say it's a reasonable assumption that they haven't changed much since their miserable excuse for a formula between MW2 and this. They didn't change much between MW1 and MW2.

FPSs age poorly. Innovation is good to have in a shooter, especially when your series is as bland from the start as Call of Duty.

They changed heaps in Modern Warfare 2. Map design, Pro Perks, Custom Killstreaks, Deathstreaks, Callsigns/emblems, weapons, equipment. They changed most things but the engine, which was simply upgraded - and it's one of the best engines out.

Wow, I can feel the innovation through my computer. Truly every CoD game is a unique snowflake.