Modern Warfare 3 gameplay - Anything new?

[worldruler8]

I'd say it's a reasonable assumption that they haven't changed much since their miserable excuse for a formula between MW2 and this. They didn't change much between MW1 and MW2.

FPSs age poorly. Innovation is good to have in a shooter, especially when your series is as bland from the start as Call of Duty.

They changed heaps in Modern Warfare 2. Map design, Pro Perks, Custom Killstreaks, Deathstreaks, Callsigns/emblems, weapons, equipment. They changed most things but the engine, which was simply upgraded - and it's one of the best engines out.

Perhaps to the games specs, but it's not the "best" engine. The engine is designed for high performance and an arcade-like style. This means it can clock an average of about 60 FPS, but as a result, graphically it isn't all that amazing. I'm not saying it has bad graphics, just that other games with different engine specs have better graphical qualities. In fact, this makes them clock at around 40 FPS. The engine serves it's purpose, and for the most part, I'm happy with it.

I will not be getting MW3 however, as I feel the game has become rotten. Not by the game itself (other then it's SP, but I'm more of a SP kind of guy) but by those people who use cheap tactics and what not. I don't like where the game is heading, so I'm going to voice my dismay by not buying the game. The multiplayer is a fun joy ride of quick tactics and visceral fighting, but recently this has felt shallow to me. This doesn't mean that I don't like it, it just means that overall, CoD is not a game I can play endlessly.

 

[F4LL3N]

Perhaps to the games specs, but it's not the "best" engine. The engine is designed for high performance and an arcade-like style. This means it can clock an average of about 60 FPS, but as a result, graphically it isn't all that amazing. I'm not saying it has bad graphics, just that other games with different engine specs have better graphical qualities. In fact, this makes them clock at around 40 FPS. The engine serves it's purpose, and for the most part, I'm happy with it.

I will not be getting MW3 however, as I feel the game has become rotten. Not by the game itself (other then it's SP, but I'm more of a SP kind of guy) but by those people who use cheap tactics and what not. I don't like where the game is heading, so I'm going to voice my dismay by not buying the game. The multiplayer is a fun joy ride of quick tactics and visceral fighting, but recently this has felt shallow to me. This doesn't mean that I don't like it, it just means that overall, CoD is not a game I can play endlessly.

The engine doesn't just have high performance and, imo, well above average graphics. The game mechanics are also extremely well done. Everything from running and crouching, to jumping and throwing grenades. Everything feels natural.

When I refer to solid and polished gameplay, I'm mainly referring to the game mechanics as opposed to some of the glitches we saw in Modern Warfare 2.

As for the campaigns, there's nothing wrong with them. They are better than 90% of other FPS campaigns, and they are primarily design towards Americans, so of course they will involve Americans vs Russia in some cliche storyline.

 

[worldruler8]

Perhaps to the games specs, but it's not the "best" engine. The engine is designed for high performance and an arcade-like style. This means it can clock an average of about 60 FPS, but as a result, graphically it isn't all that amazing. I'm not saying it has bad graphics, just that other games with different engine specs have better graphical qualities. In fact, this makes them clock at around 40 FPS. The engine serves it's purpose, and for the most part, I'm happy with it.

I will not be getting MW3 however, as I feel the game has become rotten. Not by the game itself (other then it's SP, but I'm more of a SP kind of guy) but by those people who use cheap tactics and what not. I don't like where the game is heading, so I'm going to voice my dismay by not buying the game. The multiplayer is a fun joy ride of quick tactics and visceral fighting, but recently this has felt shallow to me. This doesn't mean that I don't like it, it just means that overall, CoD is not a game I can play endlessly.

The engine doesn't just have high performance and, imo, well above average graphics. The game mechanics are also extremely well done. Everything from running and crouching, to jumping and throwing grenades. Everything feels natural.

When I refer to solid and polished gameplay, I'm mainly referring to the game mechanics as opposed to some of the glitches we saw in Modern Warfare 2.

As for the campaigns, there's nothing wrong with them. They are better than 90% of other FPS campaigns, and they are primarily design towards Americans, so of course they will involve Americans vs Russia in some cliche storyline.

You're right, it doesn't just have high performance. I was just pointing out that the high performance was a key trait that most other engines don't have. graphically it's great, I'm just saying that other games that strive for "best graphics" tend to defeat CoD. Also, the MW series seems to have had better graphics then the ones Treyarch did. MW2 made me disappointed, as the campaign in the first MW was a great take at what some may call unoriginal. The story-telling was sloppy, and the climax, hell, even the ending, felt really out of place. When your American character dies in the first MW, he dies with thousands of his brethren, in a country thousands of miles away from his country, in a hostile environment that humanity should never witness, yet ultimately caused. It felt liked a nuke went off, and after that scene, the campaign felt more somber. But in MW2, your British character gets shot in the head by an American general. the whole campaign made me feel uneasy. in the first one, even though we were killing people, we were killing people who ultimately caused bloodshed to hundreds of thousands of people. In the end of MW2, I was fighting my own blood. Why would a game tailored to Americans make you shoot other Americans when you play as a non-American? As for the gameplay, it is nice, but it's more the fact that I'm not much of a multiplayer fan. I also don't really like FPS games completely. I do enjoy them, but they aren't my personal favorite game genre. I prefer RTS's and whatever Minecraft would be. (I personally think that is a new genre in and of itself) The only multiplayer I've played recently is on minecraft, but this is a discussion about MW3, so I won't get into that. (Although I don't play on build servers. Too boring imo)

 

[yuval152]

I love how some people automatically hate a game that's not even out yet just because it's popular.

The Call of Duty series is pretty much superior in every form to every other FPS, and infact any other genre game. Anyone who can't see that needs to open their eyes.

I remember when MW2 first came out I twittered #fourtwozeo telling him they ruined the Call of Duty franchise. I was a silly boy back then. Now I'm just riding the wave of success and loving it.

peoples are hating because MW3 is basically a DLC for MW2,but activision is too greedy to sell it for usual 20 bucks so they so they came up with the stupidest idea ever,charing 60$USD for an DLC.MW3 is not a game of its on.

capthca:wisdom teeth?

The Call of Duty series is pretty much superior in every form to every other FPS, and infact any other genre game. Anyone who can't see that needs to open their eyes.

 

[Korten12]

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It's ironic, you slash him for his opinion but basically say: Oh if you thought these where, that's fine.

If I where to came to this thread and said: STALKER is the best FPS and superior to everything else. No one would say anything.

 

[F4LL3N]

Why would a game tailored to Americans make you shoot other Americans when you play as a non-American?

It's meant to cause reaction/emotion. Same deal with the invasion of the US theme. They do the same with movies.

You can't possibly be serious. The Modern Warfare games aren't even the best Call of Duty games, let alone the best FPS games. They ignore all the advancements that the genre has made over the years to bring you the most simple and shallow experience possible.

Deus Ex, TF2, Doom, STALKER, Goldeneye, Timesplitters, Battlefield 1942, hell even Halo. All games that are far better games because they involve more than just point at head, shoot, rinse, repeat. And I fucking hate Halo. For essentially the same reason I hate the MW games. It did nothing new but got praised for it anyway. The difference being that the MW games did nothing new AND took good features that other CoD games had out of the equation. Pretty damn stupid.

What? You've completely flipped the situation in every way possible.

Call of Duty has ignored all the advancements of the genre? They've completely revolutionized it. Most developers are trying to copy them. It's simple and shallow? Actually it's simple, yet complex. Modern Warfare did nothing new to the series? I'm pretty sure it was the first to have custom classes, perks, and a modern setting. Call of Duty 4 is basically what brought the series to fame, and it's arguably the best in the series.

I bet it's just a coincidence you hate Halo too. Let me guess, you also love Battlefield 2, Mass Effect, and Dragon Age, but hate Final Fantasy XIII, Mass Effect 2 and Dragon Age 2?

Btw, love or hate what you want for what ever reason you want. I'm not telling anyone what they should or shouldn't like.

 

[Zeema]

im actually pretty excited bout MW3

the spec ops looks cool.

Multiplayer i really like due to not being any STUPID FUCKING COD POINTs.

[it was confirmed on there twitter]

 

[cryogeist]

*sigh*
and the Russians are still using a cold war assault rifle gun instead of their newest rifle...

 

[Brandon237]

The Call of Duty series is pretty much superior in every form to every other FPS, and infact any other genre game. Anyone who can't see that needs to open their eyes.

OPINION ALERT: Please, don't state that as fact. Because it isn't. "Superior" and "game" can only be used in the same sentence for your own opinion. And what makes it superior? It has a good formula I will admit, but I don't like it, and success is more about pandering to the masses than making a truly brilliant, innovative product. 1 step ahead of the game, and you are seen as a genius, 2 and you are seen as a madman. MW is 1 step ahead at most, it is something the masses want. This does not in any way mean that it is the best, by a long shot. No game can really call itself the best or be called the best, even within a genre, because of personal taste and dev creativity.

Personally, to me, Crysis Warhead is the most fun FPS / predator sim out there, I am not going to say it is the best game of that genre, because I know that is an opinion. And have you played Star Craft 2, I would say that it far surpasses MW 1 and 2, many would, many wouldn't, but that is the wonderful thing about different tastes.

And I would say that even if you tried to look at it objectively, Call of Duty still would likely not be the best, because it gets 2/10 for innovation this round, and the last one, and the one before that...

 

[Wintermoot]

nope it,s probably going to have a short SP and a high price maybe when it hit,s the $10 mark but seeing as how COD6 hasn't hit that yet never.

 

[Kahunaburger]

If I where to came to this thread and said: STALKER is the best FPS and superior to everything else. No one would say anything.

Yeah, because STALKER is actually good.

Call of Duty has ignored all the advancements of the genre? They've completely revolutionized it. Most developers are trying to copy them. It's simple and shallow? Actually it's simple, yet complex. Modern Warfare did nothing new to the series? I'm pretty sure it was the first to have custom classes, perks, and a modern setting. Call of Duty 4 is basically what brought the series to fame, and it's arguably the best in the series.

Did you ever play Halo 2? Remember the multiplayer mode where you don't have shields and only use human guns? CoD is basically that with commando lunges, unbalanced killstreaks, and a spawn system that actively hates the players.

 

[Da Orky Man]

Am I the only one who would love to play an FPS where you play as the Russians striving to fend off an American invasion? I mean, it's just as likely, and America can't just have a hissy fit cause the MW games are popular in Russia as well.
You could even put a survival element into it as well, given the Russian weather.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

Good.

I'm glad they're not changing the formula, I like COD campaigns the way they are. Only thing I'd change is to make them a bit longer.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

Am I the only one who would love to play an FPS where you play as the Russians striving to fend off an American invasion? I mean, it's just as likely, and America can't just have a hissy fit cause the MW games are popular in Russia as well.
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Apparently you get to play as Russians in MW3, though in what context I don't know.

You can't possibly be serious. The Modern Warfare games aren't even the best Call of Duty games, let alone the best FPS games. They ignore all the advancements that the genre has made over the years to bring you the most simple and shallow experience possible.

What's wrong with a simple, shallow experience? Next you'll be telling us Tetris is crap...

 

[SNIPERFOX ft. Harry P.Ness]

Guys, it's just the same Russian shooting Gallery as before, nothing to see here. the new sight switching is realistic though.
This defines the Cold war fantasist wank game.

 

[Kahunaburger]

What's wrong with a simple, shallow experience? Next you'll be telling us Tetris is crap...

Tetris is a great game. But I wouldn't spend $60 dollars a year buying Tetris: Modern Tetris 3.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

Call Of Duty is like a great pop song.

Yes, it's simple. Yes, it follows an often-used formula. Yes, it can be shallow at times.

COD is 'Another One Bites The Dust' or 'Fight For Your Right To Party'.

A lot of you guys want all your games to be 14 minute Pink Floyd epics with long solos and deep layers of emotions.

Try and accept there's beauty and fun to be found in both styles.

 

[Kahunaburger]

Call Of Duty is like a great pop song.

Yes, it's simple. Yes, it follows an often-used formula. Yes, it can be shallow at times.

COD is 'Another One Bites The Dust' or 'We Will Rock You'.

A lot of you guys want all your games to be 14 minute Pink Floyd epics with long solos and deep layers of emotions.

Try and accept there's beauty and fun to be found in both styles.

I also wouldn't spend $60 dollars a year buying Tik Tok: Modern Ke$ha 3.

 

[ThePositivePessimist]

As a PC Gamer. I'd rather gouge my own eyes out then say that Modern Warfare 2 had any shooter merit, however, I will admit that it was fun, and sent Activision laughing all the way to the bank like clockwork. However, when it comes to First Person Shooters, there are much better games, (Especially on PC ), STALKER, ARMA, Battlefield: BC2 (Console Version = Bollocks). Although oohing and aahing at explosions is something I take a great liking to. So I can't complain too much.