"Modern Warfare" shooters...

[JoesshittyOs]

Like I said before, the Modern Warfare shooter is now a subgenre. And it's here to stay.

Not sure why people chose to point out that this is overdone, when the entire industry is based off of rinse and repeat type formulas.

People -myself included- like these types of games. A lot of people. It really is as simple as that. They're very much here to stay.

 

[ToastiestZombie]

I would love a WW2 shooter in this day and age actually. Think about it, D Day on the frostbite 2 engine, the amount of realism and shockingly realistic imagery you could put in would be amazing.

 

[Hero in a half shell]

Let's just get away from modern times altogether. I'm so tired of holding M16's and AK-47's.

Give me my damn laser guns back.

I've heard this from a number of my friends, and I don't quite understand it. What's so much more interesting about a laser gun than a regular gun? You're still pew pewing at random hordes of underdeveloped bad guys (only now probably aliens instead of Russians).

Same shit, different wallpaper.

Well the difference is variety. With modern realistic shooters is the time between bullets being fired: How fast do they come out, how many in the magazine, how quick can you reload, but all guns work the same.
The sci-fi/fantasy guns can have tonnes of differences and quirks, like the Halo Plasma pistol that you can charge up for a single, powerful shot, that you then have to wait while the gun reloads, or the Quake guns which fired razors and flak chaff, and each gun had two or three firing modes that vastly changed how the gun worked. Even team fortress 2 has the airblast add-on to the flamethrower, that can deflect rockets and put out flames.

Not to mention abilities such as jetpacks, invisibility, etc.

With sci-fi you have much more freedom to create things in your game because they are fun or interesting to have. In a realistic setting you are limited to guns and abilities that actually exist, but with a sci-fi game you can just say "do you know it would be really cool if we added chainsaws to the front of our guns", and *BOOM* you end up with Gears of War.

 

[Ariseishirou]

Well the difference is variety. With modern realistic shooters is the time between bullets being fired: How fast do they come out, how many in the magazine, how quick can you reload, but all guns work the same.
The sci-fi/fantasy guns can have tonnes of differences and quirks, like the Halo Plasma pistol that you can charge up for a single, powerful shot, that you then have to wait while the gun reloads, or the Quake guns which fired razors and flak chaff, and each gun had two or three firing modes that vastly changed how the gun worked. Even team fortress 2 has the airblast add-on to the flamethrower, that can deflect rockets and put out flames.

Not to mention abilities such as jetpacks, invisibility, etc.

With sci-fi you have much more freedom to create things in your game because they are fun or interesting to have. In a realistic setting you are limited to guns and abilities that actually exist, but with a sci-fi game you can just say "do you know it would be really cool if we added chainsaws to the front of our guns", and *BOOM* you end up with Gears of War.

Huh. You put that a lot more eloquently and thoughtfully than my friends did. That actually makes a lot of sense. I loved the range of crazy, impossible guns I got to use in Resistance. Thank you for that.

 

[SckizoBoy]

I'd go for a (balanced... he says with completely unfounded hope) WH40K shooter... and of course, the Eldar/Dark Eldar will have the funkiest weaponry.

Holding a Death Spinner's going to be rather weird...

 

[Tuesday Night Fever]

I miss shooting aliens and robots and demons and whatnot. I miss hand-portable miniguns and plasma cannons and what-have-you.

I also miss seeing colors other than brown, gray, and black in shooters.

Shooters of the 90's may not have been visually pretty or particularly complex, but at least they weren't so goddamn samey as all the WWII and "modern" shooters we seem to have been buried under over the past few years.

 

[Zipa]

I'd like to see a Modern Warfare game where you go progressively more mad, start hallucinating, wake up in a different location or world altogether. Maybe you have a heated argument with your gun at some point. Maybe the enemies start to warp into hideous monsters. The possibilities are endless!

Also, if this game already exists I would very much like to know what it is called. I really want to play a game like this.

Spec ops the line has a plot where

Spoiler

the playable character starts to lose his mind after accidentally killing a group of unarmed civilians , accumulating in the ending where you have the option to kill yourself.

 

[The Rogue Wolf]

just have the protagonist start off a semi-regular (this is important, ARAB) dude

And there we hit the problem. Most developers believe that gamers only want to play as a white, brown-haired American man with a chin that could crack marble. Apparently this is gamers' vision of masculine perfection that they want to emulate.

 

[evilneko]

Remake Fallout:Brotherhood of Steel as an FPS. [trollface.jpg]

Make a good Predator game.

 

[CrazyJew]

Sounds boring as fuck.
How about WW2 from the perspective of the Wehrmacht?
I would like to see one of the Israeli conflicts but it's never gonna happen. Too controversial.

ISRAEL IS NOT A STATE!

JK, I am from Israel. If I don't get good grades I will be playing a game in one of Israel's conflicts this November.

 

[Zen Toombs]

just have the protagonist start off a semi-regular (this is important, ARAB) dude

And there we hit the problem. Most developers believe that gamers only want to play as a white, brown-haired American man with a chin that could crack marble. Apparently this is gamers' vision of masculine perfection that they want to emulate.

Which is why I made sure to mention it. As I'm sure you agree, it's frankly quite silly how few protagonists aren't white or men or dark-haired. Black people play games too! So to girls! So do most people!

I'm making loud noises!

 

[the abyss gazes also]

I'd like a dark fantasy shooter like the good old Hexen/Heretic series, modern/recent historical settings always seem kind of tasteless to me.

I liked the feel of these games. They were essentially reskined Doom, but the FPSs are really hard to innovate because if you change them too much it isn't a FPS. But if you could through in more story to a Hexen game that would be cool.

My personal beef with the modern military shooter is that they are geared to multiplayer with very little emphasis on single player. I really don't like multiplayer so it is sixty bucks for a 5hourish single player campaign or going online where there are people... ewwww people.

 

[Chimpzy_v1legacy]

So I ask you... Should we make games out of the 'arab spring' revolutions?
You start out as a normal university student in Tripoli, witness some shitty things done by Gaddafi's militia's/army, and join the rebels...

Sure. But instead of being some WASP college kid visiting Tripoli for spring break, and instead have the protagonist be (god forbid) one of the arab rebels. It wouldn't be hard to do - just have the protagonist start off a semi-regular (this is important, ARAB) dude with good fighting skills, give it a semi-Half Life 2 intro, which turns into combat when you have to fight off one Gaddafi's rape squads. From there you search out the rebels, fire bullets until Gaddafi's men stop twitching, and other usual shooter stuff.

But you'll still be shooting arab dudes. The only difference that you're an arab yourself.

Now, if you want to make it really, really edgy, you'd be a arab guy shooting white dudes. Maybe even unarmed civilians. You're killing people whiter than you are, which means its not racist (it also means albinos are pretty much screwed, not matter what). I'm sure it'll hit like a bomb.

All sarcastic messing about aside, I would like some more non-white, non-brown haired, non-beefcake protagonists. Arab would be nice, but not likely to happen because of reasons already mentioned in other posts i.e. the seeming belief amongst developers/publishers that gamers wouldn't be able to relate to anything non-white. An arab protagonist would most probably create some media backlash too.

So, how maybe an east-asian hero instead? I can't think of any game that has an east-asian protagonist in it. Games with anime visuals don't count since the characters don't look like asians. I mean, one that actually looks the part.

But wait, I'm forgetting something for him/her to shoot. Uhmmmmm ... mummies! It's ok to shoot mummies because ... well ... they're mummies and undead and stuff.

 

[Mordekaien]

I'd like a dark fantasy shooter like the good old Hexen/Heretic series, modern/recent historical settings always seem kind of tasteless to me.

I hear you. The first time I found crossbow in Hexen was better than finding a shotgun in Doom (IMHO)


OT: Anything with variety. Having wacky rocket jumps, two firing modes and all that good stuff. Also, more skill-based weapons, as opposed for those near hitscan things I see in modern shooters these days.

 

[Daethbane]

I agree that the current shooters are getting really boring. If I had my choice, I'd ask what happened to the FPSs about American Indians fighting dinosaurs with alien weapons, mini-guns, and a big freaking lazer gun all with the point of finding the jerk who is upsetting the balance of nature!? In case you can't guess, I'm talking about Turok: Dinosaur Hunter for the N64. What happened to that kind of creativity? It's so much more entertaining (and MUCH harder also) than continuing to kill Russians. Heck, I just picked up Turok just last week again... haven't played Modern Warfare since I beat it :/

Kinda says something I think.

 

[OldDirtyCrusty]

I`m more tired of the modern war setting not modern times in general. I enjoyed even Call of Juarez the Cartel. It was different than the previous games but at least it wasn`t a war shooter. There are good tps set in modern times with likeable characters and a good story instead of a moving pair of hands and the usual war missions, why can´t we have it in a fps? Everytime i jump to close to a wall in MP3 and i just have my arms visible onscreen i get reminded that i would love to play it in first person. What`s most missing is characters and good stories. Even if i`m tired of war settings in general i would love to play something like "saving private ryan" as a game. It could be linear as any of the current stuff but at least it would give me a cast of characters i care about, instead of faceless soldiers barking orders and a good tale instead of just another mission on the job (come to think of it Battlefield:BC suceeded with the characters it just wasn`t very serious and good as a story).

Otherwise give me another western setting (love CoJ1 and 2) or a fantasy themed fps anytime.
When i look at upcomming games Dishonoured looks damn promising and i hope Prey2 doesn`t get canceled (ok , the sci-fi isn`t special but i really dig the bounty hunter idea combined with a open world).

 

[DigitalSushi]

For the last few years, the industry changed from making shooters about World War 2 and killing Germans, to shooters about shooting Russians or Muslims, like the Modern Warfare and Medal of honour series. I believe most of the escapists are immensely bored by this.

So I ask you... Should we make games out of the 'arab spring' revolutions?
You start out as a normal university student in Tripoli, witness some shitty things done by Gaddafi's militia's/army, and join the rebels...
Or currently the civil war in Syria...

So. Got any brand new ideas on what shooters should focus on?

If you want to make it realistic then the Arab uprising will be just like MW3, where you start off with crap weapons and then the UK carpets bombs a target at random, then you get a better weapon and you start being a glitching God.

Now, if you want to make it really, really edgy, you'd be a arab guy shooting white dudes.

Really edgy would be some dude shooting my beer, or maybe shooting a friend of mines beer out of his hand.

 

[Vicarious Reality]

A shooter set in afrika in the year 1900
Or one of the Japanese Chinese wars