Modern Warfare Two is a Broken Game With Potential (My First Article)

[SpAc3man]

wow dont know what game you guys have been playing but I think MW2 is great. Sure it would be nice to have dedicated servers but the hassle free nature of "I want to play this game mode" *click* rather than looking for a good server to play on is extremely hard to go by. I havent had major problems with lag and if a host is shit a new one gets picked pretty quickly. In my opinion theres lots of creative tactics to use and a way around all of them. Maybe instead of rage quitting and finding a forum to ***** on people could improve the fun rating by actually playing the game and figuring out counter-tactics for whatever annoys you.

On the weapons? of course theres going to be some that are better in a certain situation but different situations favour different weapons. Just like real life.

I personally love working through the challenges. Fast leveling and a sense of accomplishment other than "fragging that fag camper"

I understand we all have our own opinion but I think it's kind of rude to say I went on rage quieted and went to a forum to complain. I have played for 11 days and hit the fifth prestige without boosting in anyway I think I have the right to talk about the game in any matter I like without it being simply called bitching.

Sorry for any offence but I wasn't aiming my comment at you directly, only commentating on what I've seen a lot of recently. Well done on 5th prestige btw, you obviously didn't struggle with people using annoying tactics as badly as you implied if you got it that fast.

 

[Flying-Emu]

It's a thread about why MW2 is a broken game (his words, not mine), and I expressed my own complaint.

Fair enough.

It is completely justified, so feel free to stop acting like you're somehow superior to me.

Can you understand the convections of social interaction? I didn't write anything to you that suggests I am seeking control or authority. It was a question & a statement on why you avoided the discussion of his OP - where he does not mention the servers or logistics at all - just the gameplay. He wanted gripes on gameplay, not your own sadface about the lack of dedicatd servers.

Whine, whine, whine.

Why don't you just avoid these threads?

It's posts like that which really tick me off.

It's not that you are trying to exercise control, but I took your statement as a self-righteous prick saying that my comment had no value, which in fact it did.

But I'd rather not get into an argument about semantics.

 

[crystalsnow]

Only two things wrong with MW2 multiplayer (aside from personal gripes)

- Hackers
- Absolute worst connection method I've ever seen in a game, and probably ever will.

 

[BrEnNo1023]

I like noobtubers. It fills me with even more satisfaction when I knife them to death and they're frantically firing their grenades into the ground in front of them, nothing exploding of course. My copy of MW2 is in the post, i'll probably get it next week, but the same problems with campers noobtubes and m16s are in COD4 as well. It's the same as the campers and rocket-whores/camping rocket-whores in halo. IN ALL GAMES, there is one or two or fifty particular tactics that are considered cheap. I personally try not to think about the idiots who employ those tactics, I try to think of ways to counter them; like sniping, or finding good cover from teh failnadez, or getting up close to them... (and i also just don't let them bother me..that helps).
Grenade spam on Wet Work still gets me though, there's no escaping ^.^

Two things: You can let them ruin the game for you, or you can work around it and overcome it.

Only two things wrong with MW2 multiplayer (aside from personal gripes)

- Hackers
- Absolute worst connection method I've ever seen in a game, and probably ever will.

eek..
I hope it's not as bad as halo 2's matchmaking.. or halo 3's, where you have 60 seconds to find a full 12 players or the SEARCH RESETS ITSELF D: how many times IN A ROW that I've gotten 9 people, or 11 people, only to find the timer thing run out and "RESTARTING SEARCH" appear on the screen..FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUU-

Anyway, servers and 'matchmaking' have their advantages and disadvantages...wouldn't it be nice if MW2 had a system that made both somehow work together. People need to work together more XD

 

[Da_Schwartz]

FACT: None of this matters when you sell over a billion dollars in product. Get over it, or don't play it.

 

[crystalsnow]

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eek..
I hope it's not as bad as halo 2's matchmaking.. or halo 3's, where you have 60 seconds to find a full 12 players or the SEARCH RESETS ITSELF D: how many times IN A ROW that I've gotten 9 people, or 11 people, only to find the timer thing run out and "RESTARTING SEARCH" appear on the screen..FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUU-

Anyway, servers and 'matchmaking' have their advantages and disadvantages...wouldn't it be nice if MW2 had a system that made both somehow work together. People need to work together more XD

Yeah, whenever the server begins to start, it finds a PLAYER host (usually a bad one) then proceeds to waste 10 seconds to start the game. And during those 10 seconds, people leave, you get randomly kicked off for numerous stupid reasons, and the time usually resets, and if you don't have enough players (I think 75% of w/e the max is for the match type) the game just sits there until someone happens to join.

And then when it finally does load, you get kicked off during the loading screen 35% of the time. Then, if you finally get past all of that, when you get into the game, the host (the bad one previously mentioned) is usually downloading porn and setting the lag to ultra-mode.

And if you don't have a bad host, you'll probably get kicked off for some arbitrary reason at some point.

Have fun joining "servers"!

 

[crystalsnow]

FACT: None of this matters when you sell over a billion dollars in product. Get over it, or don't play it.

FACT: Madden continues to make money. Maybe not a billion, but still.

Does the same rule still apply? Hmm?

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

I hate to say this, but I'm not impressed.

One of the important things you missed in your review is the fact that you hardly elaborated on anything. What makes the multiplayer so complex? Why is throwing grenades across a map, camping in corners, or using "cheap" weapons and loadouts a bad thing? What kind of glitches are there and how detrimental to the gameplay are they?

Your review also makes no mention of the single-player or Spec-Ops campaign missions which, in my opinion, are as much a vital part of the Modern Warfare 2 experience as the online multiplayer.

Another problem I've noticed with the review is that it is too subjective. Although most reviews are derived from gut feelings, a skilled reviewer will try to find a more objective standpoint or elaborate on their opinions and experiences so that other people might understand your feelings. Just because something makes you mad doesn't mean it will apply to everyone else.

Also, if you're going to recommend other games over the game you're reviewing, try recommending games of a similar genre or style because games like Mass Effect 2, Bioshock 2, and Modern Warfare 2 are judged by very different standards.

Do make sure to keep trying, though and I do like the picture of Schwarzenegger w/ the akimbo 1887's even though I absolutely hate that weapon.

This isn't a review this is just meant to be OP commenting on Multiplayer.

Your complaints are nothing compared to the fact that it doesn't have dedicated servers.

Orly.

As a long time PC gamer, I find matchmaking to be the best thing ever because it allows me to play the game the way it was meant to be played. No more having to stick to crazy server rules like "lolololololol no camping on mah server" or other form of restrictions that just hamper my enjoyment of the game or everyone's favorite 24/7 insert_crappy_map_name here.

Dedicated servers in MewTwo would have resulted in a massive amount of hardcore (because apparently playing hardcore mode means you are hardcore, lol) server when the game itself wasn't designed for that cheap-realism-cop-out mode.

Sure, I get annoyed by the (marathon/lightweight/commando pro or scavenger/thumper/m203) douches, but it beats having to deal with obnoxious admins and clanners.

I actually cannot believe what I am reading. You're complaing about people who pay for a server having rules. Do you just walk into someone else's house and do as please and piss on the carpet or take a shit on the sofa? I'd say you don't. Also if you actually looked around and found a server you liked and plays how you like do you know what you do? You favourite it such is how the highly superior dedicated server system works. Matchmaking and P2P are a combination of the two worst online systems out there. Matchmaking only works in rare cases and Shooters is not a genre where it works especially on the PC where we like big games not this shit of 9v9.

Well this a late addition to the argument, but for good reason (other titles).

Everything you have said has already been said. It's just how it works.

Your complaints are nothing compared to the fact that it doesn't have dedicated servers.

Whine, whine, whine.

Why don't you just avoid these threads?

It's posts like that which really tick me off.

If you don't like his comment why not ignore it and he will go away. Dedicated servers were a big deal so yeah.

 

[EliteDave725]

This isn't a review this is just meant to be OP commenting on Multiplayer.

This is true; sometimes I just don't get the hint. However, my point still stands that this is hardly an objective commentary with a lot of QQ. Or perhaps my faux-English Major standards are too high.

 

[Elemental]

Am I the ONLY ONE who played MW2 for its campaign and coop?
Although you're right, the community there is annoying.

your not the only one dude..
and i was dissapointed from the campaign.

 

[cainx10a]

Your complaints are nothing compared to the fact that it doesn't have dedicated servers.

Orly.

As a long time PC gamer, I find matchmaking to be the best thing ever because it allows me to play the game the way it was meant to be played. No more having to stick to crazy server rules like "lolololololol no camping on mah server" or other form of restrictions that just hamper my enjoyment of the game or everyone's favorite 24/7 insert_crappy_map_name here.

Dedicated servers in MewTwo would have resulted in a massive amount of hardcore (because apparently playing hardcore mode means you are hardcore, lol) server when the game itself wasn't designed for that cheap-realism-cop-out mode. 99% of the normal servers were TDM and the 1% that weren't, were Europeans server.

Sure, I get annoyed by the (marathon/lightweight/commando pro or scavenger/thumper/m203) douches, but it beats having to deal with obnoxious admins and clanners.

I actually cannot believe what I am reading. You're complaing about people who pay for a server having rules. Do you just walk into someone else's house and do as please and piss on the carpet or take a shit on the sofa? I'd say you don't. Also if you actually looked around and found a server you liked and plays how you like do you know what you do? You favourite it such is how the highly superior dedicated server system works. Matchmaking and P2P are a combination of the two worst online systems out there. Matchmaking only works in rare cases and Shooters is not a genre where it works especially on the PC where we like big games not this shit of 9v9.

And despite paying money for CoD4 I couldn't enjoy the game as much as I would because of private servers that never ran Sabotage/Domination on normal mode and with a player limit that the maps were NOT designed for. 9v9 is so much better than 16v16 on 100% of all CoD4 maps released, and 16v16 on hardcore was a goddamn joke.

So yeah, as much as your analogy to someone else house is valid, it does not outweigh the fact that players like myself are forced to play the game according to someone else taste.

And I don't know about you, but MW2 run flawlessly on my system, have a playtime of just (5d+), encountered douches and elitist a-holes that were quickly muted or ignored, and had a hell of a time, which was so much better than the shitty experience I had on CoD4 despite playing with an awesome clan and "awesomer" people.

This is certainly an opinion, but one that's shared by a lot of people who plays MW2 for fun.

 

[Da_Schwartz]

FACT: None of this matters when you sell over a billion dollars in product. Get over it, or don't play it.

FACT: Madden continues to make money. Maybe not a billion, but still.

Does the same rule still apply? Hmm?

I would think so. Madden has been making the same game for years now. All ea does is change rosters, and adds more options. Which is what i would call it. Not even gameplay effects. Madden nowadays has so much clutter in it IMO that if you haven't been playing through each edition from year to year a new player to the franchise has ZERO chance of understanding any of it.

 

[ShinyMagnum]

Seriously though why is the M1911A1 (Colt .45) only in the ending level museum area, why is it not in the main game and multiplayer?

 

[Cowabungaa]

Well I think we all knew that MW2 was pretty dang unbalanced. Corner-campers, dual-shottie spammers and 'noob tubers' aren't exactly new. That's not even mentioning the pretty overpowered killstreaks.

But why I keep playing even because it's a pretty flawed game? Well, despite it's flaws, it can be pretty adrenaline pumping. Until some asshole with a Striker or dual-Rangers screws an awesome round up. I can really love and hate this game at the same time.

Let's face the facts the ACR, m16, and shotguns are basically instant win weapons. On the whole if you use the ACR you will kill people, because it has almost zero recoil and only takes about 1 more hit than other guns. Personal preference aside this gun is basically the one gun to rule them all and takes most of the other guns out of contention. The FAL? a total piece of garbage, m4? why bother. and don't even touch the F2000 or Tar21 they don't hold a candle next to the other guns.

Really?! Is the ACR really that good? Sure I see lots of people use it, but I mow them down with my SCAR-H or even my UMP at times. The ACR does indeed have low recoil, it's the Vector of the rifles, but dang I hate it. It simply doesn't do enough damage for me.

The TAR21 is absolutely fantastic as well when fired in bursts. And the FAL makes for a mobile sniper together with an ACOG scope, if you don't want to deal with 3-round bursts ala M16. I can't disagree with you over the shotguns though, especially the automatic ones. The SPAS-12 also has an insane range, I can so despise that thing.

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But that's what I like about dedicated servers; when I encounter such an elitist server as you speak of, I just go to another one until I find a cool one to add to my Favourites list. Here is also an article [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/experienced-points/6768-Its-the-End-of-the-War-as-We-Know-It] on our own site that explains why the loss of dedicated servers would be bad, even for the people who play for fun like you and also me. I would've never put so many hours in TF2 if it weren't for dedicated servers. Playing a game that revolves around teamwork with a bunch of randoms just doesn't work that well.

 

[Caprice0083]

Honestly there's nothing wrong with MW2 that isn't wrong with every multiplayer game. You're playing against other, very competitive people, who will do anything that can get an edge. It's so prominent in MW2 because it's a very popular game.

I agree with that. When i found my self getting killed by campers and people hiding, i created a class for that and starting winning and getting more kills. Aggressive akimbo players, have a class for that. Snipers, have a class for that. You have to adapt to the crap and up your skills to survive. Thats the FUN in it for me.

 

[HyenaThePirate]

NOt that it's a major problem for me, since I just ignore/mute them, but I'll be damned that the amount of rude, punkass little kids spewing all sorts of attention-seeking vitriolic bile in MW2 is at damn near epic levels, to the point that I'm almost willing to agree with Jack Thompson that we need stricter policies regarding games and their rating systems. In my opinion, anyone under 17 shouldn't BE playing Modern Warfare 2 multiplayer. Yeah I know I'll catch hell for saying that, especially by anyone under 17, but the majority of those players are woefully immature in my opinion, and I wish they had real parental supervision, because I doubt I'd be hearing half the things I've heard ejaculated from the mouths of children at me or others if their parents were monitoring them instead of letting the freaking Xbox act as a "virtual babysitter".

Of course, this is just a societal issue at large, because it's not uncommon for me to see the same sort of behavior when I'm out with mates having a night out... people letting their damn kids run wild and having become jaded to their antics, and so desperate for a joyful moment of peace that they willfully ignore their kids even when they are misbehaving.

And heaven help us if someone figures out how to start tracking the physical addresses of other players in the lobby... I can envision some 13 year old kids answering a knock at the door only to find someone they called a "N__ger" one too many times from the safety of anonymity standing there ready to continue the previous "conversation"...

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

This isn't a review this is just meant to be OP commenting on Multiplayer.

This is true; sometimes I just don't get the hint. However, my point still stands that this is hardly an objective commentary with a lot of QQ. Or perhaps my faux-English Major standards are too high.

I know what you mean and I see where you're coming from I just think it is supposed to be a semi rant to vent some steam the OP has for the game in a civilised manner. I suppose it doesn't matter too much.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

Your complaints are nothing compared to the fact that it doesn't have dedicated servers.

Orly.

As a long time PC gamer, I find matchmaking to be the best thing ever because it allows me to play the game the way it was meant to be played. No more having to stick to crazy server rules like "lolololololol no camping on mah server" or other form of restrictions that just hamper my enjoyment of the game or everyone's favorite 24/7 insert_crappy_map_name here.

Dedicated servers in MewTwo would have resulted in a massive amount of hardcore (because apparently playing hardcore mode means you are hardcore, lol) server when the game itself wasn't designed for that cheap-realism-cop-out mode. 99% of the normal servers were TDM and the 1% that weren't, were Europeans server.

Sure, I get annoyed by the (marathon/lightweight/commando pro or scavenger/thumper/m203) douches, but it beats having to deal with obnoxious admins and clanners.

I actually cannot believe what I am reading. You're complaing about people who pay for a server having rules. Do you just walk into someone else's house and do as please and piss on the carpet or take a shit on the sofa? I'd say you don't. Also if you actually looked around and found a server you liked and plays how you like do you know what you do? You favourite it such is how the highly superior dedicated server system works. Matchmaking and P2P are a combination of the two worst online systems out there. Matchmaking only works in rare cases and Shooters is not a genre where it works especially on the PC where we like big games not this shit of 9v9.

And despite paying money for CoD4 I couldn't enjoy the game as much as I would because of private servers that never ran Sabotage/Domination on normal mode and with a player limit that the maps were NOT designed for. 9v9 is so much better than 16v16 on 100% of all CoD4 maps released, and 16v16 on hardcore was a goddamn joke.

So yeah, as much as your analogy to someone else house is valid, it does not outweigh the fact that players like myself are forced to play the game according to someone else taste.

And I don't know about you, but MW2 run flawlessly on my system, have a playtime of just (5d+), encountered douches and elitist a-holes that were quickly muted or ignored, and had a hell of a time, which was so much better than the shitty experience I had on CoD4 despite playing with an awesome clan and "awesomer" people.

This is certainly an opinion, but one that's shared by a lot of people who plays MW2 for fun.

Well fair enough if you enjoy MW2 thats fine. I still think that your problem is still easily solved by dedicated servers just find a few you like and stick to them. Also if you don't like a server leave I think it is pretty simple. Also P2P is an awful system like lag. Only if you amazing internet will it work well or at least good internet connection. The biggest flaw with it is that someone has 0 ping which puts them at a massive advantage over everyone but I'm just going to assume you know how P2P works and if your happy with it thats fine with me I hate it to bits.