Monster Hunter Tri

[BrilliantCircle]

What about
Group D) People who use the opinion's of people who actually like the game. To hate it.

Really?...I mean REALLY? That's your reason for arguing here? .. that is sad... at least, thank you for showing me that you don't really have any opinion on this game other then just to pissing other people off.

No, although now I'd love to piss you off. Since you're obviously an idiot who can't read.
My reason for arguing, is that people recommending this game make it sound like a terrible game. I don't care if I piss other people off.

The people who like this game couldn't make it sound worse to me if they planned it all in advance
"Hey! Let's find everything mike hates about games. Find a game with all those things or say that a game has all those things, and act like all those aspects are awesome".

You won't like the game if you have never played Monster Hunter before and they just thrust you into the meat of the game, and you won't like the game if you think the tutorial is too long. Basically there are two kinds (maybe three?) people who do not like this game.

Group A) The people who made is past the 1* quests, fought some big monsters, do not like how tedious the game can be
Group B) The people who played only 1* quests and hated the game

and then...

Group C) The people who use either group A or Bs opinion to hate the game

Most people who have played Monster Hunter and didn't like it are group B, you can see this in a lot of reviews (worst being Gametrailers review of Monster Hunter Freedom, where they had to out right lie to try to prove their point). This includes Yahtzee. People like to point out flaws in people's opinions, that's why there are a lot of people pointing out this review.

It can be summed up that Yahtzee did not review the game, he reviewed the tutorial, which he doesn't like. The thing is, his review says this is what the whole game is like, which it is not.

What about
Group D) People who use the opinion's of people who actually like the game. To hate it.

People trying to defend this game made me hate the game way more than anything yahtzee said. Anything that got me into a conversation about the game's tutorial would. Infact, yahtzee actually defended the game way better than you did by mistake, because he said

but now I've spotted some of those quick, whippy little bastards and want to switch to a shortsword and shield?

Which comfirmed that there actually are weapons other than sledge hammers, massive swords, massive spears, and all the other giant heavy slow shit. I was under the impression that all the weapons were heavy shit because: First some guy posted some youtube videos showing people beat bosses as if it were an arguement that the game doesn't suck (all of them with retardedly huge weapons), and then if I asked if all weapons are that huge no one bothered responding that they're not

How is this the game's fault then? Yes there other weapons. None of the weapons are slow and none of them are fast, in a sense. A weapon may attack more, but you'll almost never have time to attack that much or else the monster will hit you. A slow weapon, for example, may give you only 1 opportunity to attack, but you may do enough damage in that 1 attack than 3 of a faster weapon.

All the monsters are designed to be fought with every weapon. You don't need a fast weapon on a fast monster, it's all about timing and learning how the weapons work.

It isn't the game's fault. It is however, evidence of my claim that the very fans of this game make it sound worse than people arguing against it.

Your thoughts are flawed though. I just explained that no weapon is actually slow in the game. Just because you are fighting a fast monster, does not mean there is no opportunities for a slow weapon to hit.

 

[t_rexaur]

I really don't care if it's the best weapon. Big heavy slow weapons bore me to death.

You'd probably prefer the sword and shield then. It's fast, you can dodge easily with it and you can even block some attacks. And you can, if you wanted, complete the game just using one, although you'd need to upgrade it. Longswords are pretty big but not really that slow.

The way the weapons work though is that each has strengths and weaknesses, and they are all different. Online it's best to have a team with 4 different weapons if you can manage it, although doubling up on some weapons is alright.

 

[deckai]

No, although now I'd love to piss you off. Since you're obviously an idiot who can't read.
My reason for arguing, is that people recommending this game make it sound like a terrible game. I don't care if I piss other people off.

Ha ha, that's really good ... really i can't argue with this twisted logic.

 

[Mindmaker]

No, although now I'd love to piss you off. Since you're obviously an idiot who can't read.

Really?
What about you posting some really uneducated statments, demanding or provoking a response and when given, ignoring it, while reposting the same bullshit on another page?

 

[BryceN]

Ok, I have to say that this thread blows my mind. It's a brawl between the (switches to high-pitched-voice) "Mneh, Mneh, Mneh, Yahtzee didn't like my game because he's bad at it and can't beat the tutorial," and the "Mneh Mneh, Mneh, People who play monster hunter tri are insecure for liking a game that Yahtzee dissed twice in a row!"

Seriously people, the thread is so incredibly repetitive, and it's about the opinion of a person most, if not all of you, will never meet in real life.

When Yahtzee points out something wrong with a game, he does so in a way that is extreme, and entirely based on his experience of 20(?) years or so of playing video games. He (thankfully) does not have the last say on whether a video game is good. That, dear readers, comes down to you.

So, in the spirit of not having anybody cut their ties with the Escapist community for a little nit-picky opinion war, everybody chill.

 

[Chunko]

I agree with him completely, if a game still sucks after four hours I drop it!

 

[mike1921]

What about
Group D) People who use the opinion's of people who actually like the game. To hate it.

Really?...I mean REALLY? That's your reason for arguing here? .. that is sad... at least, thank you for showing me that you don't really have any opinion on this game other then just to pissing other people off.

No, although now I'd love to piss you off. Since you're obviously an idiot who can't read.
My reason for arguing, is that people recommending this game make it sound like a terrible game. I don't care if I piss other people off.

The people who like this game couldn't make it sound worse to me if they planned it all in advance
"Hey! Let's find everything mike hates about games. Find a game with all those things or say that a game has all those things, and act like all those aspects are awesome".

You won't like the game if you have never played Monster Hunter before and they just thrust you into the meat of the game, and you won't like the game if you think the tutorial is too long. Basically there are two kinds (maybe three?) people who do not like this game.

Group A) The people who made is past the 1* quests, fought some big monsters, do not like how tedious the game can be
Group B) The people who played only 1* quests and hated the game

and then...

Group C) The people who use either group A or Bs opinion to hate the game

Most people who have played Monster Hunter and didn't like it are group B, you can see this in a lot of reviews (worst being Gametrailers review of Monster Hunter Freedom, where they had to out right lie to try to prove their point). This includes Yahtzee. People like to point out flaws in people's opinions, that's why there are a lot of people pointing out this review.

It can be summed up that Yahtzee did not review the game, he reviewed the tutorial, which he doesn't like. The thing is, his review says this is what the whole game is like, which it is not.

What about
Group D) People who use the opinion's of people who actually like the game. To hate it.

People trying to defend this game made me hate the game way more than anything yahtzee said. Anything that got me into a conversation about the game's tutorial would. Infact, yahtzee actually defended the game way better than you did by mistake, because he said

but now I've spotted some of those quick, whippy little bastards and want to switch to a shortsword and shield?

Which comfirmed that there actually are weapons other than sledge hammers, massive swords, massive spears, and all the other giant heavy slow shit. I was under the impression that all the weapons were heavy shit because: First some guy posted some youtube videos showing people beat bosses as if it were an arguement that the game doesn't suck (all of them with retardedly huge weapons), and then if I asked if all weapons are that huge no one bothered responding that they're not

How is this the game's fault then? Yes there other weapons. None of the weapons are slow and none of them are fast, in a sense. A weapon may attack more, but you'll almost never have time to attack that much or else the monster will hit you. A slow weapon, for example, may give you only 1 opportunity to attack, but you may do enough damage in that 1 attack than 3 of a faster weapon.

All the monsters are designed to be fought with every weapon. You don't need a fast weapon on a fast monster, it's all about timing and learning how the weapons work.

It isn't the game's fault. It is however, evidence of my claim that the very fans of this game make it sound worse than people arguing against it.

Your thoughts are flawed though. I just explained that no weapon is actually slow in the game. Just because you are fighting a fast monster, does not mean there is no opportunities for a slow weapon to hit.

I don't see how that makes it so it isn't slow. That just makes it so it's usable. I don't care if it's possible to hit a raptor with a sledgehammer that uses the sun as the blunt end. I want a sword of reasonable size and a shield if the game isn't going to ignore logic and make it so massive swords can be swung at a decent speed (I don't care if they do or not. As long as there are fast weapons in the game).

 

[shadowmarth]

Hey, you want an example of what the game's REALLY like? Ok, then I'll tell you. Recently me and a friend decided to finally get around to the online, and grind up the ranks quick as possible together to get to the cool shit. The online has a bit more grinding than the offline thanks to the odd and hilarious fact that it's on a subscription fee basis in Japan. Me and him added each other as friends and got to it, killing a whole mess of every monster up to the Rathian. The nice thing was that he was rolling with Switch Axe or Lance most of the time, and I was rolling with a paralyzing Hammer.

When we got to the point of doing the Rathian (large female Dragon, fire breath, poison tail, etc) capture quest, he went with the lance all the time, and we had a hell of a time. The two subquests were to damage its head, and sever its tail. Being a hammer user, I could not sever the tail, but was quite adept at injuring the head. My partner, using a Lance, was quite adept at severing the tail. So we'd race to see who could finish their subquest first, and it was always close. We would run circles around this huge fucking dragon, wailing on it constantly and chopping off bits of it. It was fun as hell.

 

[Zeruun22]

Great Swords are fast when you unsheathe attack with them, meaning if you run and start your attack itll unsheathe into a downward sword strike thats fairly quick and lets you dodge after pretty fast. Its only slow if you stand there to do upswings to side swings or charge it to do a massive strike. Depends on what your play style is with some prefer to just use unsheathe attacks with the armor skill crit draw(makes draw attacks always crit) into slaps into a charge which is effective and some ppl prefer to just swing slowly when not being targeted with up to side swings. Up to you how you play with a weapon.

 

[BrilliantCircle]

What about
Group D) People who use the opinion's of people who actually like the game. To hate it.

Really?...I mean REALLY? That's your reason for arguing here? .. that is sad... at least, thank you for showing me that you don't really have any opinion on this game other then just to pissing other people off.

No, although now I'd love to piss you off. Since you're obviously an idiot who can't read.
My reason for arguing, is that people recommending this game make it sound like a terrible game. I don't care if I piss other people off.

The people who like this game couldn't make it sound worse to me if they planned it all in advance
"Hey! Let's find everything mike hates about games. Find a game with all those things or say that a game has all those things, and act like all those aspects are awesome".

You won't like the game if you have never played Monster Hunter before and they just thrust you into the meat of the game, and you won't like the game if you think the tutorial is too long. Basically there are two kinds (maybe three?) people who do not like this game.

Group A) The people who made is past the 1* quests, fought some big monsters, do not like how tedious the game can be
Group B) The people who played only 1* quests and hated the game

and then...

Group C) The people who use either group A or Bs opinion to hate the game

Most people who have played Monster Hunter and didn't like it are group B, you can see this in a lot of reviews (worst being Gametrailers review of Monster Hunter Freedom, where they had to out right lie to try to prove their point). This includes Yahtzee. People like to point out flaws in people's opinions, that's why there are a lot of people pointing out this review.

It can be summed up that Yahtzee did not review the game, he reviewed the tutorial, which he doesn't like. The thing is, his review says this is what the whole game is like, which it is not.

What about
Group D) People who use the opinion's of people who actually like the game. To hate it.

People trying to defend this game made me hate the game way more than anything yahtzee said. Anything that got me into a conversation about the game's tutorial would. Infact, yahtzee actually defended the game way better than you did by mistake, because he said

but now I've spotted some of those quick, whippy little bastards and want to switch to a shortsword and shield?

Which comfirmed that there actually are weapons other than sledge hammers, massive swords, massive spears, and all the other giant heavy slow shit. I was under the impression that all the weapons were heavy shit because: First some guy posted some youtube videos showing people beat bosses as if it were an arguement that the game doesn't suck (all of them with retardedly huge weapons), and then if I asked if all weapons are that huge no one bothered responding that they're not

How is this the game's fault then? Yes there other weapons. None of the weapons are slow and none of them are fast, in a sense. A weapon may attack more, but you'll almost never have time to attack that much or else the monster will hit you. A slow weapon, for example, may give you only 1 opportunity to attack, but you may do enough damage in that 1 attack than 3 of a faster weapon.

All the monsters are designed to be fought with every weapon. You don't need a fast weapon on a fast monster, it's all about timing and learning how the weapons work.

It isn't the game's fault. It is however, evidence of my claim that the very fans of this game make it sound worse than people arguing against it.

Your thoughts are flawed though. I just explained that no weapon is actually slow in the game. Just because you are fighting a fast monster, does not mean there is no opportunities for a slow weapon to hit.

I don't see how that makes it so it isn't slow. That just makes it so it's usable. I don't care if it's possible to hit a raptor with a sledgehammer that uses the sun as the blunt end. I want a sword of reasonable size and a shield if the game isn't going to ignore logic and make it so massive swords can be swung at a decent speed (I don't care if they do or not. As long as there are fast weapons in the game).

Believe it or not, the giant hammer is actually a fast weapon. So is the lance, long sword and Slashaxe in one of it's modes. These are the bigger weapons too. It's not that the character is moving it at inhuman speeds, it's hard to explain without seeing it though. The smaller weapons, sword and shield, dual swords (not in this game) and light bowgun are small fast weapons. I think they have yet to add a small weapon that is slow.

 

[Zoriath]

Yep, the fast weapons exist (Sword and Shield, light Bowguns). They do less damage per hit, and since they're hitting more often, they have to be sharpened/reloaded more often. And if you like the shield half of the Sword and Shield, but want something that hits harder, the Lance is available. If you like doing faster slices and don't care about blocking, the Long Sword becomes available about a third of the way through the game (introduced later to keep a bijillion xxSephirothxx's from running around in online mode).

 

[SFR]

Well, it seems that everyone who's played the game beat the tutorial in an hour or less, so it leads me to this conclusion: Yahtzee sucks at video games.

Already new that, though...

 

[Vaccine]

10 hours, you're off you're nut, lol.

Even if that were true, do you know how long this game lasts? I got over 2000+ hours between the 3 PSP games.

 

[mike1921]

No, although now I'd love to piss you off. Since you're obviously an idiot who can't read.
My reason for arguing, is that people recommending this game make it sound like a terrible game. I don't care if I piss other people off.

Ha ha, that's really good ... really i can't argue with this twisted logic.

Point out what's wrong with it, otherwise it means the twisted logic makes sense.

No, although now I'd love to piss you off. Since you're obviously an idiot who can't read.

Really?
What about you posting some really uneducated statments, demanding or provoking a response and when given, ignoring it, while reposting the same bullshit on another page?

What?

What about
Group D) People who use the opinion's of people who actually like the game. To hate it.

People trying to defend this game made me hate the game way more than anything yahtzee said. Anything that got me into a conversation about the game's tutorial would. Infact, yahtzee actually defended the game way better than you did by mistake, because he said

but now I've spotted some of those quick, whippy little bastards and want to switch to a shortsword and shield?

Which comfirmed that there actually are weapons other than sledge hammers, massive swords, massive spears, and all the other giant heavy slow shit. I was under the impression that all the weapons were heavy shit because: First some guy posted some youtube videos showing people beat bosses as if it were an arguement that the game doesn't suck (all of them with retardedly huge weapons), and then if I asked if all weapons are that huge no one bothered responding that they're not

Most of the weapons are HUGE. That's just how it goes. There's also Bowgunning, which is an entirely different experience. You know the thing about Sword and Shield though? It hits pretty weak compared to the bigger weapons (obviously), so you have to hit more often. Which is doable. But you also have to keep a variety of swords around because maximizing elemental damage is key to doing well with Sword and Shield. It's not exactly the best noob weapon.

I really don't care if it's the best weapon. Big heavy slow weapons bore me to death.

Sure is agree with yAHtzhee in here.

It's a good game, get over yourselves

Yes, how dare we agree with yahtzee that a game you like sucks. Obviously if you say it's a good game it must be, all mighty person with 10 posts.

u mad?

I mad

My problem is all you guys are basing your opinions off bad info and running with it. yes bigger weapons are slow, but so what they have extra benefits Great sword can cut off parts of the monsters and make it do a flip and scream in pain and shock, lances pierce and trip monsters, hammers daze monsters if you hit them in the head and burn up their stamina fast making them stand for awhile drooling in exhaustion. Youve never played this game so you dont really know if you dislike slow weapons because they cause statuses you might find amusing. And just in case you didnt see my earlier posts tutorial half hour if you just accomplish the objectives, sharpenss bad at first extra dmg when you get good sharpness, resources suck at first farmers do it for you later "Yay now I can just beat the crap out of monsters"

I honestly don't care about the benefits. Give me a reasonable weapon or give me a weapon that is unreasonable and has decent speed.

I'm definitely not the type to sit through a 60-140 hour game because I find the status elements amusing.

Alright, does the game tell you which of the level 1 quests are pointless shit and which aren't? If it doesn't, is it 30 minutes to play all of them or 30 minutes to just play the ones that you need to pass? Also, if I hear another contradicting number from a person defending this game I might just rent it and play through that slock just so I could point out which of you are fucking liars.

 

[Z(ombie)fan]

As I've stated before, my problem with the video is that he didn't review the actual game.
...
I was looking forward to a proper nip picking and what I got was Yahtzee whining about his job.
.

AGAIN YOU ARENT PAYING ATTENTION.

yes, he reviewed the actual damn game. he played and found it to be a tedious crapathon

also, that was 100% nit picking of the game, what the hell are you reading?

He did not review the game, he reviewed the tutorial. People who have actually played Monster Hunter would tell you the game is about hunting big monsters to gather material from them to fight even bigger and harder monsters.

It is not about gathering mushrooms or honey (like in Yahtzee's review) or hunting a bunch of small monsters (like in Yahtzee's review). Doing these things though, TEACH you about the game and MAY help you later. For example, fighting small monsters can help you learn how to time your attacks/dodges/blocks. Gathering can help you make items to help you fight big monsters, for example, you are low on health, but you know where ingredients are in the level to make potions so you can continue fighting.

These skills that you learn become pointless once you start PLAYING the game. You know how to take advantage on monster's movements and you know to be prepared for missions (you'll also have enough money now to just buy what you need from the store). Does this sound like anything from Yahtzee's review?

I am surprised that no one really gets the basic message Yahtzee was enunciating here: That if a game can't manage to appeal to you in X hours then it's not going to appeal to you inb 2X or even 3X hours. And even if it did, is wading through the initial round of suck worth a potential pay-off on hearsay? I've experienced many games like that....and I rarely give a game more than 1 hour if I find it's not to my liking; I have a much, much lower tolerance level for suck than Yahtzee (plus I don't have to do a video review, thank the evil game gods).

Whether it's a tutorial that takes (seemingly) forever or just normal gameplay (that feels like a bad tutorial) the bottom line is: hours in to the game none of the gameplay appealed to Yahtzee. And ergo I am reasnably confident it will not appeal to me, as I have found that about 75% of the time if Yahtzee finds a game's drag preposterous and torturous, so will I. About the only time I saw one of his reviews and it said, "this game has moments of suck, but the payoff for hanging in there is kinda cool (I'm paraphrasing here obviously) it was with Dark Void, which I did go get (once I saw it for ten bucks) based on what Yahtzee said. And he was right.

The last time I ignored Yahtzee, it was at my peril--I picked up Wet despite his review, thinking I could overlook it all and find the coolness within. I was wrong.

Damnit, Yahtzee is always right. ALWAYS.

he responded better than I could.

but basically there is one design rule that should NEVER EVER BE BROKEN: If your going to suck massively, don't do it at the beginning of the game. if your NOT gooing to suck massively...

then well at least put more effort into the beginning anyway. remember: first impressions are rather important.

 

[Giest4life]

Good follow up review by Yahtzee, just gives me another reason not to buy the Wii--I think Yahtzee has yet to give a Wii game a good review, or at least good enough for me to spend forty bucks on it.

And another thing, every gamer has a right to judge a game by his own merit, and no one can fault the game reviewer for that. The argument "that's how it's meant to be played" is a very fallacious one---a game can't tell me how to have "fun," I will KNOW when I'm having fun. If I play a game, and I play like it has a 10 hr tutorial, well tough shit cause the game does really suck.

 

[mike1921]

What about
Group D) People who use the opinion's of people who actually like the game. To hate it.

Really?...I mean REALLY? That's your reason for arguing here? .. that is sad... at least, thank you for showing me that you don't really have any opinion on this game other then just to pissing other people off.

No, although now I'd love to piss you off. Since you're obviously an idiot who can't read.
My reason for arguing, is that people recommending this game make it sound like a terrible game. I don't care if I piss other people off.

The people who like this game couldn't make it sound worse to me if they planned it all in advance
"Hey! Let's find everything mike hates about games. Find a game with all those things or say that a game has all those things, and act like all those aspects are awesome".

You won't like the game if you have never played Monster Hunter before and they just thrust you into the meat of the game, and you won't like the game if you think the tutorial is too long. Basically there are two kinds (maybe three?) people who do not like this game.

Group A) The people who made is past the 1* quests, fought some big monsters, do not like how tedious the game can be
Group B) The people who played only 1* quests and hated the game

and then...

Group C) The people who use either group A or Bs opinion to hate the game

Most people who have played Monster Hunter and didn't like it are group B, you can see this in a lot of reviews (worst being Gametrailers review of Monster Hunter Freedom, where they had to out right lie to try to prove their point). This includes Yahtzee. People like to point out flaws in people's opinions, that's why there are a lot of people pointing out this review.

It can be summed up that Yahtzee did not review the game, he reviewed the tutorial, which he doesn't like. The thing is, his review says this is what the whole game is like, which it is not.

What about
Group D) People who use the opinion's of people who actually like the game. To hate it.

People trying to defend this game made me hate the game way more than anything yahtzee said. Anything that got me into a conversation about the game's tutorial would. Infact, yahtzee actually defended the game way better than you did by mistake, because he said

but now I've spotted some of those quick, whippy little bastards and want to switch to a shortsword and shield?

Which comfirmed that there actually are weapons other than sledge hammers, massive swords, massive spears, and all the other giant heavy slow shit. I was under the impression that all the weapons were heavy shit because: First some guy posted some youtube videos showing people beat bosses as if it were an arguement that the game doesn't suck (all of them with retardedly huge weapons), and then if I asked if all weapons are that huge no one bothered responding that they're not

How is this the game's fault then? Yes there other weapons. None of the weapons are slow and none of them are fast, in a sense. A weapon may attack more, but you'll almost never have time to attack that much or else the monster will hit you. A slow weapon, for example, may give you only 1 opportunity to attack, but you may do enough damage in that 1 attack than 3 of a faster weapon.

All the monsters are designed to be fought with every weapon. You don't need a fast weapon on a fast monster, it's all about timing and learning how the weapons work.

It isn't the game's fault. It is however, evidence of my claim that the very fans of this game make it sound worse than people arguing against it.

Your thoughts are flawed though. I just explained that no weapon is actually slow in the game. Just because you are fighting a fast monster, does not mean there is no opportunities for a slow weapon to hit.

I don't see how that makes it so it isn't slow. That just makes it so it's usable. I don't care if it's possible to hit a raptor with a sledgehammer that uses the sun as the blunt end. I want a sword of reasonable size and a shield if the game isn't going to ignore logic and make it so massive swords can be swung at a decent speed (I don't care if they do or not. As long as there are fast weapons in the game).

Believe it or not, the giant hammer is actually a fast weapon. So is the lance, long sword and Slashaxe in one of it's modes. These are the bigger weapons too. It's not that the character is moving it at inhuman speeds, it's hard to explain without seeing it though. The smaller weapons, sword and shield, dual swords (not in this game) and light bowgun are small fast weapons. I think they have yet to add a small weapon that is slow.

So I'm guessing all those youtube videos labeled "Monster Hunter Tri" where they are fighting giant monsters with giant hammers and they are slow as shit are really about another shitty game where you fight monsters?

 

[Legion]

Jesus Christ people honestly believe that the tutorial is literally 10 hours long? Thanks for giving me lot's of quotations whenever the argument of how many people take Yahtzee seriously comes up.

 

[shadowmarth]

I'm definitely not the type to sit through a 60-140 hour game because I find the status elements amusing.

Alright, does the game tell you which of the level 1 quests are pointless shit and which aren't? If it doesn't, is it 30 minutes to play all of them or 30 minutes to just play the ones that you need to pass? Also, if I hear another contradicting number from a person defending this game I might just rent it and play through that slock just so I could point out which of you are fucking liars.

Do it. No seriously, do it. You'll either be better off for playing a good game, or you'll be better off for not talking about this shit with no actual experience.

And the game doesn't straight out tell you which 3 out of the 5 first available quests are necessary to advance, but it does suggest that you do those quests first in the text before missions. Furthermore it's just a couple extra quests if you don't know which ones, which amounts to maybe an extra 20-30 minutes.

And what you define as a "reasonable weapon" is derived from very different games. Within the context of this game, the available weapons are fantastic.

 

[Zoriath]

That is one of MH3's failings, in that it doesn't tell you which quests are required to move on all the time. It falls into the "All There in the Manual" trope. The game does throw in an "urgent" quest that acts as a lock on the next set of quests until you complete it though. The 1* quests you can ignore are:
Killing Kelbi
Fishing
Collecting Red Coral Stones

If you already know what you're doing, you can get through the required 1* quests in about an hour. Speed run, maybe 40 minutes. For most people, about 1.5 hours. To do all the 1* quests, 2 hours. YMMV.