Morals: Where do you stand on them?

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Hammartroll said:
I'm not educated on the subject, but would it be safe to say that morality is still important to society at least to some extent?
Absolutely it is important; what I was trying to point out is that it makes no sense to make sweeping statements about something if you don't understand it. I'm all for people discussing something in order to try to understand it; it's when people say "morality is dumb derpa derpa derp" that I get annoyed.

If we start with Kant (Kant is philosophy and philosophy is Kant) he thought that we have a responsibility to be moral because we are rational. The moral choice is the rational choice in any situation when we are totally disinterested {NB not uninterested- disinterested is closer to unbiased}.

Of course he also had some crazy ideas about absolute moral rules and about God, but no-one is perfect.
 

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dickywebster said:
Also if any religious people claim you can not have morality without their religion, as ive seen claimed in the past, i will laugh so hard.
Divine Fiat is a popular viewpoint, but absurdly weak to the Barren Tautology problem.
 

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Morality is relevant. There are three basic rules that apply to everything because they are present in all societies (don't steal, don't kill, don't physically harm another unless in punishment), but everything else is just relevant when it comes to morals. It's like good and evil, it's relevant to whom you might ask.

Now obviously if someone is being a dick, I'll call them a dick, but relatively speaking, they are a dick based on my beleifs, not theirs.