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Cid Silverwing

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So I woke up today and checked my email. My EA account has been magically turned into an Origin account.

I don't know about you, but I raged at this. Hard.

Now I'm afraid to even play any games that have the EA logo on them for fear that it'll automatically install Origin and screw me over.

Anyone else receive this notification?
 

therandombear

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I checked my email when I read this post. I have recieved the same email. Thankfully I only had an account since I was in the BF3 alpha, so loss for me really. No other games on that account.
 

CD-R

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That was awhile ago. And besides they changed the Origin EULA to something less stupid a few weeks ago. Seeing as how it's now essentially the same as Steam and Adobe's I wouldn't worry about it.

http://bf3blog.com/2011/08/ea-updates-origin-eula-after-criticism/
 

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Yeah, that's because Origin is just the new, slightly more glorified version of their download manager. Of course the account you once had for their download manager is going to become an Origin account.

CD-R said:
That was awhile ago. And besides they changed the Origin EULA to something less stupid a few weeks ago. Seeing as how it's now essentially the same as Steam and Adobe's I wouldn't worry about it.
You're expecting people to view things rationally and coherently. Sure, Origin's EULA is pretty vanilla now, but that doesn't matter "because it's EA".

The hate for Origin is remarkably irrational and reactionary. It's nothing but an example of people bandwagon hating... where everyone hates on one thing because that's what it is cool and hip to hate on. Grow up...
 

Cid Silverwing

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GreatTeacherCAW said:
WHAT?! EA TOOK MY EXISTING ACCOUNT AND TURNED IT INTO AN ACCOUNT I CAN USE FOR FUTURE ONLINE GAMES?!?!?! HOW FUCKING DARE THEY!!!!!!!!!

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
That was out-and-out retarded. I don't want a DRM that installs spyware on my computer, I don't care how many games I get in return, I'm not submitting my PC to an electronic cavity search.
 

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Cid SilverWing said:
GreatTeacherCAW said:
WHAT?! EA TOOK MY EXISTING ACCOUNT AND TURNED IT INTO AN ACCOUNT I CAN USE FOR FUTURE ONLINE GAMES?!?!?! HOW FUCKING DARE THEY!!!!!!!!!

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
That was out-and-out retarded. I don't want a DRM that installs spyware on my computer, I don't care how many games I get in return, I'm not submitting my PC to an electronic cavity search.
You might want to check the link above since it essentially states they wouldn't install Spyware and they're not searching your PC constantly, only as much as Steam would.
 

CD-R

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Stall said:
Yeah, that's because Origin is just the new, slightly more glorified version of their download manager. Of course the account you once had for their download manager is going to become an Origin account.

CD-R said:
That was awhile ago. And besides they changed the Origin EULA to something less stupid a few weeks ago. Seeing as how it's now essentially the same as Steam and Adobe's I wouldn't worry about it.
You're expecting people to view things rationally and coherently. Sure, Origin's EULA is pretty vanilla now, but that doesn't matter "because it's EA".
Good point it probably would have helped if the Escapist did an article on it but I don't know. They might have mentioned it in the podcast but I haven't listened to it yet.

That's the way it is with PC gaming now I guess. We all welcomed Steam into are lives so it was only a matter of time before other wanted to get in on that action. Still I suppose it's better than previous drm schemes, and that always on nonsense Ubisoft is doing. And it's probably for the best that Valve doesn't have an almost virtual monopoly on digital distribution and slightly less sucky drm anymore.
 

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Cid SilverWing said:
GreatTeacherCAW said:
WHAT?! EA TOOK MY EXISTING ACCOUNT AND TURNED IT INTO AN ACCOUNT I CAN USE FOR FUTURE ONLINE GAMES?!?!?! HOW FUCKING DARE THEY!!!!!!!!!

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
That was out-and-out retarded. I don't want a DRM that installs spyware on my computer, I don't care how many games I get in return, I'm not submitting my PC to an electronic cavity search.
Says the guy with over 50 games on his Steam profile.
 

Riobux

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CD-R said:
Stall said:
Yeah, that's because Origin is just the new, slightly more glorified version of their download manager. Of course the account you once had for their download manager is going to become an Origin account.

CD-R said:
That was awhile ago. And besides they changed the Origin EULA to something less stupid a few weeks ago. Seeing as how it's now essentially the same as Steam and Adobe's I wouldn't worry about it.
You're expecting people to view things rationally and coherently. Sure, Origin's EULA is pretty vanilla now, but that doesn't matter "because it's EA".
Good point it probably would have helped if the Escapist did an article on it but I don't know. They might have mentioned it in the podcast but I haven't listened to it yet.

That's the way it is with PC gaming now I guess. We all welcomed Steam into are lives so it was only a matter of time before other wanted to get in on that action. Still I suppose it's better than previous drm schemes, and that always on nonsense Ubisoft is doing. And it's probably for the best that Valve doesn't have an almost virtual monopoly on digital distribution and slightly less sucky drm anymore.
To be honest, I don't think it helps that EA still participates in shady business practices (e.g. their entire sports games collection) that people can't help but be fearful of EA when they're doing anything at all, drastic or not. Valve, on the other hand, has a pretty solid reputation (well, you can always try to accuse them of excessive hat selling or not releasing Episode 3). Gamers tend to hold grudges really easily.
 

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Old news mate. Old old OLD news.
I received that email over a month ago.

CD-R said:
That was awhile ago. And besides they changed the Origin EULA to something less stupid a few weeks ago. Seeing as how it's now essentially the same as Steam and Adobe's I wouldn't worry about it.

http://bf3blog.com/2011/08/ea-updates-origin-eula-after-criticism/
Their claims contradict each other.
Even in the revised, "kinder, gentler" EULA, EA cannot possibly gather the kind of information they claim to from your computer WITHOUT installing software with high-level-read-access.
In short: they can't do what they claim without using SPYWARE.
 

CD-R

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Riobux said:
CD-R said:
Stall said:
Yeah, that's because Origin is just the new, slightly more glorified version of their download manager. Of course the account you once had for their download manager is going to become an Origin account.

CD-R said:
That was awhile ago. And besides they changed the Origin EULA to something less stupid a few weeks ago. Seeing as how it's now essentially the same as Steam and Adobe's I wouldn't worry about it.
You're expecting people to view things rationally and coherently. Sure, Origin's EULA is pretty vanilla now, but that doesn't matter "because it's EA".
Good point it probably would have helped if the Escapist did an article on it but I don't know. They might have mentioned it in the podcast but I haven't listened to it yet.

That's the way it is with PC gaming now I guess. We all welcomed Steam into are lives so it was only a matter of time before other wanted to get in on that action. Still I suppose it's better than previous drm schemes, and that always on nonsense Ubisoft is doing. And it's probably for the best that Valve doesn't have an almost virtual monopoly on digital distribution and slightly less sucky drm anymore.
To be honest, I don't think it helps that EA still participates in shady business practices (e.g. their entire sports games collection) that people can't help but be fearful of EA when they're doing anything at all, drastic or not. Valve, on the other hand, has a pretty solid reputation (well, you can always try to accuse them of excessive hat selling or not releasing Episode 3). Gamers tend to hold grudges really easily.
True but any company can go from being ethical and beloved to shady and hated. Sure Valve seems good now but Gabe Newall isn't going to be around forever. Just look at Activision. Activision was founded by game developers who felt that developers should be better compensated for games that sold well and properly credited for their creation. It's now headed by a guy who stated "he was going to take the fun out of video game making". Seriously that's something a villain in a Disney animated movie would say.

Actually I take that back. Disney villains usually have more depth than that. That's something a villain in a Korean knockoff of a Disney animated movie would say.
 

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Cid SilverWing said:
GreatTeacherCAW said:
WHAT?! EA TOOK MY EXISTING ACCOUNT AND TURNED IT INTO AN ACCOUNT I CAN USE FOR FUTURE ONLINE GAMES?!?!?! HOW FUCKING DARE THEY!!!!!!!!!

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
That was out-and-out retarded. I don't want a DRM that installs spyware on my computer, I don't care how many games I get in return, I'm not submitting my PC to an electronic cavity search.
Um, did you read this?

CD-R said:
That was awhile ago. And besides they changed the Origin EULA to something less stupid a few weeks ago. Seeing as how it's now essentially the same as Steam and Adobe's I wouldn't worry about it.

http://bf3blog.com/2011/08/ea-updates-origin-eula-after-criticism/
"EA would never sell your personally identifiable information to anyone, nor would it ever use spyware or install spyware on users' machines. We and agents acting on our behalf do not share information that personally identifies you without your consent, except in rare instances where disclosure is required by law or to enforce EA's legal rights."

Your point has been dashed.
 

Riobux

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CD-R said:
Riobux said:
CD-R said:
Stall said:
Yeah, that's because Origin is just the new, slightly more glorified version of their download manager. Of course the account you once had for their download manager is going to become an Origin account.

CD-R said:
That was awhile ago. And besides they changed the Origin EULA to something less stupid a few weeks ago. Seeing as how it's now essentially the same as Steam and Adobe's I wouldn't worry about it.
You're expecting people to view things rationally and coherently. Sure, Origin's EULA is pretty vanilla now, but that doesn't matter "because it's EA".
Good point it probably would have helped if the Escapist did an article on it but I don't know. They might have mentioned it in the podcast but I haven't listened to it yet.

That's the way it is with PC gaming now I guess. We all welcomed Steam into are lives so it was only a matter of time before other wanted to get in on that action. Still I suppose it's better than previous drm schemes, and that always on nonsense Ubisoft is doing. And it's probably for the best that Valve doesn't have an almost virtual monopoly on digital distribution and slightly less sucky drm anymore.
To be honest, I don't think it helps that EA still participates in shady business practices (e.g. their entire sports games collection) that people can't help but be fearful of EA when they're doing anything at all, drastic or not. Valve, on the other hand, has a pretty solid reputation (well, you can always try to accuse them of excessive hat selling or not releasing Episode 3). Gamers tend to hold grudges really easily.
True but any company can go from being ethical and beloved to shady and hated. Sure Valve seems good now but Gabe Newall isn't going to be around forever. Just look at Activision. Activision was founded by game developers who felt that developers should be better compensated for games that sold well and properly credited for their creation. It's now headed by a guy who stated "he was going to take the fun out of video game making". Seriously that's something a villain in a Disney animated movie would say.

Actually I take that back. Disney villains usually have more depth than that. That's something a villain in a Korean knockoff of a Disney animated movie would say.
Just out of mild curiosity, where did Bobby state that? However, I know Gabe Newell isn't going to be around forever, but we're still trusting because Gabe is still around and Valve hasn't done anything to question our trust. EA, Zynga and Activision though, has done everything to make people question their motives, although usually it can be boiled down to more money.
 

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Cid SilverWing said:
So I woke up today and checked my email. My EA account has been magically turned into an Origin account.

I don't know about you, but I raged at this. Hard.

Now I'm afraid to even play any games that have the EA logo on them for fear that it'll automatically install Origin and screw me over.

Anyone else receive this notification?
The whole thing about Origin was to replace the EA Download manager. This was announced, an put into practice, a long time ago.
 

Collymilad

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You always have to wonder with EA related things how much people would actually care if it wasn't EA.

Not much would be my guess.
 

BlastedTheWorm

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The thing about Origin is that it states it would take info from my PC.

What can it see, is my question. I want to know what exactly the info is that EA are getting.