Wait, what? Dropping support for 11 year old software gives precedence to having to buy new hardware every year?Trippy Turtle said:
That doesn't make the slightest of sense.
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That doesn't make the slightest of sense.
*reads through the thread with some bemusement* Wow I didn't realize so many people were in love with XP. It's like some kind of Luddite movement for the new millennium.
"You young whippersnappers and your new fangled operating systems with NUMBERS in the title. You'll have to pry my XP from my cold dead hands. I only even made the concession for XP because they stopped supporting DOS. I miss my command line interface" *Sobs quietly and rides home in a horse and cart because FUCK CARS*
Look, a new version of Windows coming out, and support stopping for an older version has been a part of Windows since the Windows OS has existed. Railing futilely at the march of progress is just that, futile. Keep using XP if you like, I have no problem with you doing so, just don't get angry when your outdated technology is no longer supported.
"You young whippersnappers and your new fangled operating systems with NUMBERS in the title. You'll have to pry my XP from my cold dead hands. I only even made the concession for XP because they stopped supporting DOS. I miss my command line interface" *Sobs quietly and rides home in a horse and cart because FUCK CARS*
Look, a new version of Windows coming out, and support stopping for an older version has been a part of Windows since the Windows OS has existed. Railing futilely at the march of progress is just that, futile. Keep using XP if you like, I have no problem with you doing so, just don't get angry when your outdated technology is no longer supported.
About time. Maybe now we will get to see more games with DX10+
XP needs to be put down. We will have to put up with it for another 17 months until Microsoft finally pull the plug and stop providing security fixes. After then it will be too much of a liability for anyone in their right mind to continue using.
XP needs to be put down. We will have to put up with it for another 17 months until Microsoft finally pull the plug and stop providing security fixes. After then it will be too much of a liability for anyone in their right mind to continue using.
Same here. I loved XP and didn't want to touch Vista, but Win7 works perfectly just like XP did. In fact its almost worked better. This computer has BSOD only twice in the year or so I have had it, and once you tweak the interface extras you can get it running just as smoothly.devotedsniper said:
And ya..this isnt surprising overall. The OS is getting old now and with Win8 it means that there are 4 popular Windows OS's out and the games industry simply cant be expected to keep up with all 4.
To be fair, just because they aren't supporting XP doesn't mean that it won't run on XP.
It's just no longer guaranteed to run, and they don't have to provide help in getting you to run it on XP.
It's just no longer guaranteed to run, and they don't have to provide help in getting you to run it on XP.
This won't happen, because a vast majority of gamers don't have the newest hardware. It simply doesn't make sense to make software that a majority of your potential customers can't use. Companies will support the widest range of hardware and operating systems that are profitable, and at this point, XP has such a small percent of gamers using it that it isn't profitable to develop for. But, developers will still develop for hardware and software that is several years old because otherwise they'd be losing a huge amount of their potential customers.Trippy Turtle said:
It's about time. Now we just need commercial software to drop support for the thing so the rest of the world can update and I won't need to study an archaic OS to keep everyone happy.
6 years. 6 years to update, and saying "Vista was bad" is no excuse. Vista had a bigger footprint because it was a bigger OS, and it required more resources. Just like how Win 95 required more resources than 3.1. How 2000 required more resources than 98SE, and how XP required more resources than 2000. The only difference that Vista had was that MS gave the "Certified for Vista" stickers away like hotcakes, and manufacturers stuck the OS on machines with 512mb of RAM, expecting it to work faster. Technology doesn't fucking work that way! Pull your head out of your ass and use an OS that's from the last decade already!
Goddamnit, I hate XP now, and the horse it rode in on too.
6 years. 6 years to update, and saying "Vista was bad" is no excuse. Vista had a bigger footprint because it was a bigger OS, and it required more resources. Just like how Win 95 required more resources than 3.1. How 2000 required more resources than 98SE, and how XP required more resources than 2000. The only difference that Vista had was that MS gave the "Certified for Vista" stickers away like hotcakes, and manufacturers stuck the OS on machines with 512mb of RAM, expecting it to work faster. Technology doesn't fucking work that way! Pull your head out of your ass and use an OS that's from the last decade already!
Goddamnit, I hate XP now, and the horse it rode in on too.
And this is all we need to get more people to move to 7. "We're not supporting your ancient technology, and we're not going to spend time trying to fix things that break if you use it".SoulSalmon said:
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Note that this doesn't mean "Will not run." It means "Might not run, and you are not entitled to help if it doesn't. Consider upgrading."
As others have said, MS Support for XP will continue to 2014, so you can still get away with it. For now. It is time to come out of the vista bunker, though. Come up to 7. It's better. The best reason I can come up with is "My current hardware can't run any better and it's not in the budget to upgrade my hardware" in which case, you're not playing modern games anyway..
As for 8.. I'm going to wait and see what it does.
As others have said, MS Support for XP will continue to 2014, so you can still get away with it. For now. It is time to come out of the vista bunker, though. Come up to 7. It's better. The best reason I can come up with is "My current hardware can't run any better and it's not in the budget to upgrade my hardware" in which case, you're not playing modern games anyway..
As for 8.. I'm going to wait and see what it does.
Old hardware will run better on 7 than it will on Vista due to the reduced "background crap" going on.mew4ever23 said:
i love reading threads where people complain others aren't upgrading, but also ignore that there are so many things (mainly $$ and time) when considering upgrades. if you have just enough to buy new games then you'd be annoyed too that games are coming out that you can no longer play on your stable, trustworthy and otherwise adequate computer system, not to mention the time and effort it can take to get old stuff to run on new OSs, if at all.
all things should be useable as long as they are viable and do the job. i realize turnover is the nature of these things, but the turnover of electronics and software is considerably worse than most other things.
8 is just 7 with some minor improvements and graphical overhaul anyway. continue XP support!
all things should be useable as long as they are viable and do the job. i realize turnover is the nature of these things, but the turnover of electronics and software is considerably worse than most other things.
8 is just 7 with some minor improvements and graphical overhaul anyway. continue XP support!
The Cost of the software needs to be considered as well as time spent getting used to were they hid all the functions you already know by heart and replacement of any other software that won't work on the new OS.mew4ever23 said:
The cheapest I've found windows 7 is 99 dollars which is edging in on reasonable so maybe soon but it's still hard to psych oneself up for such drastic change when your current shit just plain works.
And yes I did totally keep using 98 for as long as possible so that my DOS games would run properly. Hell I still have games that wig out if I don't run them on a computer slowed down to a 486 level and which came on 10 floppy disks. Thank Odin for GOG.
I work as a computer technician (NOT GEEK SQUAD, BTW), and I am overjoyed to see more companies finally leaving XP in the dust. In my day-to-day work, I see more infections and driver issues on XP-based systems than anything else. Also, it just isn't as snappy on newer hardware.
Consider this:
- When XP came out, SINGLE-CORE processors were the only consumer solution for CPUs.
- XP does not handle multi-threading very well, since that feature was patched into it later in life, rather than being incorporated into it by design.
-XP is limited to 4gb of RAM, which is the de-facto minimum for the average pc today.
-XP has ended the mainstream support phase of its life. It is only on extended support now, which means it only gets security updates for the most severe security issues. Nothing else.
People say that newer OSes can't run their old programs, but I have personally succeeded in making many old programs work fine. In the rare instances where they could not run, Windows 7 has an optional VM called "XP Mode", and if that doesn't work, then there is usually a newer version of the software on the market.
Hint: A good trick for making old software work is to install the 32-bit version of Windows 7, though I only recommend this for business use. Gamers will not enjoy the 4gb RAM cap of 32-bit windows, but it does have better support for older 16-bit software. That's how I got a customer's new pc to run their ancient copy of Autocad 2000. Seriously, people, it is good to keep tech moving forward.
Consider this:
- When XP came out, SINGLE-CORE processors were the only consumer solution for CPUs.
- XP does not handle multi-threading very well, since that feature was patched into it later in life, rather than being incorporated into it by design.
-XP is limited to 4gb of RAM, which is the de-facto minimum for the average pc today.
-XP has ended the mainstream support phase of its life. It is only on extended support now, which means it only gets security updates for the most severe security issues. Nothing else.
People say that newer OSes can't run their old programs, but I have personally succeeded in making many old programs work fine. In the rare instances where they could not run, Windows 7 has an optional VM called "XP Mode", and if that doesn't work, then there is usually a newer version of the software on the market.
Hint: A good trick for making old software work is to install the 32-bit version of Windows 7, though I only recommend this for business use. Gamers will not enjoy the 4gb RAM cap of 32-bit windows, but it does have better support for older 16-bit software. That's how I got a customer's new pc to run their ancient copy of Autocad 2000. Seriously, people, it is good to keep tech moving forward.
No reason except for the 200 dollar price tag. Why bother paying 200 bucks for a new OS when your current one works fine as is? I sure as hell wouldn't bother and the only reason I've got windows 7 now is because my old pc shorted out and ruined most of the componentsMetalhandkerchief said: