Morrowind for Steam Workshop?

[Andrew Giarrusso]

I recently got Morrowind. I had heard about how it's the best of TES, and as someone who started with Skyrim, I decided to try it.
But jucjhfuef what.
I barely see anything awesome about this game besides the soundtrack. The walking speed is something a snail would laugh at, almost all NPCs have the same dialogue, the combat is near broken, the graphics are atrocious, and the AI seems so static compared to that of Skyrim. This was probably amazing for its time, but by today's standards it's pretty bad. So, what if Morrowind had workshop? It would make it easier to download mods, and it would attract people who were originally put off by it's 2001-level quality, and modders to buy it. It would be a win-win, for consumer and publisher. What do you think?

 

[aozgolo]

I don't even use the Steam Workshop for Skyrim (mostly due to how much better the Nexus Mod Manager makes it).

As far as the problems with Morrowind, well there's not really any mods that will truly fix the problems you're talking about. I love Morrowind but I won't defend it's shortcomings, even diehard fans realize they are shortcomings.

Where the game shines is the atmosphere it creates, the unique locations, the greater customization you have over your skills and character progression and the story is amazing. The dialogue system isn't everyone's cup of tea, there are a lot of responses that are just pooled together based off a NPC's faction, location, relation to the player, etc. but I found the dialogue menu very nice and made important NPCs more interesting because they could give you information about your world beyond the handful of pre-recorded lines they had. There are tons more factions in the game than any of it's successors, and each one is longer.

Yes the combat is plain bad, it uses a dice roll system where you miss constantly even when you visually "hit" something, it's not a game kind to newcomers.

There are mods that can make the graphics, dialogue, walking speed and combat more tolerable, but nothing akin to Oblivion or Skyrim. If you're looking for those mods though I would strongly advise the Nexus, it's waaay better than the Workshop.

 

[Auberon]

Of course you know that Morrowind has really only few dedicated modders left, and I believe 99% of them are tied in Tamriel Rebuilt. And it was released 12 years ago, when Planet*insertgamehere* was still going strong (it still was somewhere '09 or so, at least PES).

Most games don't last that long even as cult classics, and workshop is relatively new.

 

[VanQ]

Here is an excellent video on what it is that Morrowind lovers love about Morrowind.

 

[Smooth Operator]

I think you need to stop waiting in the Steam cubbyhole for what bones the masters might feed you and explore the actual gaming possibilities, because mod managers and millions of mods are readily available everywhere around the net, they also don't hinge on a single half working service that may or may not work day to day.

One example http://morrowind.nexusmods.com//?

 

[Lil_Rimmy]

Seriously?

Why would you use the workshop...? Just look up the Nexus Mod Manager, far superior to the workshop is basically every way. That goes for Skyrim and Oblivion too. Just get the Nexus Mod Manager and you download the mod via Morrowind Mod Nexus and it launches the program and installs it on it's own.

The Nexus Mod Manager even works for other games, like Fallout, Legend of Grimrock, Witcher, Dragon Age and even Darksouls. I think World of Tanks even works with it. It's kind of the go-to for mods. You really don't need the workshop.

 

[Esotera]

Steam Workshop sucks so much, from both the perspective of trying to subscribe to mods & trying to upload them. It has the potential to be amazing if Valve actually bothered to fix its bad aspects.

This is a graphical overhaul mod. Although I think the only reason you'd play Morrowind these days is either because you love the setting and environment (so much better than Oblivion/Skyrim) or if you're feeling nostalgic.

http://kotaku.com/5947989/morrowind-just-got-even-prettier-with-this-new-graphical-overhaul

 

[Doom972]

I recently got Morrowind. I had heard about how it's the best of TES, and as someone who started with Skyrim, I decided to try it.

I wouldn't say best (I enjoyed Skyrim more), but it's better at some aspects than the other games. They all have their strengths and weaknesses.

But jucjhfuef what.
I barely see anything awesome about this game besides the soundtrack. The walking speed is something a snail would laugh at,

Have you checked your speed attribute? You may want to increase it if it's too low. If making a new character is not an option, get an Athletics trainer and train that skill so that you'll get a multiplier for your speed increase when you level up.

almost all NPCs have the same dialogue,

True.

the combat is near broken,

It works as intended. It's based on character skill rather than player skill. Once you'll get a weapon skill to a good level (70+), combat will be much more satisfying. The Fighter's Guild and house Redoran have good trainers who train members for cheap.

the graphics are atrocious,

True, but there are great mods out there that make it look like a recent PC game with high quality textures and models.

and the AI seems so static compared to that of Skyrim.

It sure is. There are mods that cause some characters move between places, but not as good as in Oblivion and Skyrim.

This was probably amazing for its time, but by today's standards it's pretty bad.

If you play without mods, sure. But with the mods available it doesn't have to be this way.

So, what if Morrowind had workshop? It would make it easier to download mods, and it would attract people who were originally put off by it's 2001-level quality, and modders to buy it. It would be a win-win, for consumer and publisher. What do you think?

I would buy Morrowind again for that (I don't own it on Steam). I doubt that it would happen though.

 

[jackpipsam]

I love Morrowind and its mods.

But chances are most of those mod makers won't be interested in uploading stuff to a Morrowind workshop.

 

[endtherapture]

I'd just recommend getting Morroblivion to work.

 

[endtherapture]

I'd just recommend getting Morroblivion to work.

Or, from the makers of Morroblivion, Skywind [http://morroblivion.com/forums/skyrim/skywind-mod-releases/3323]!


(which really, when two TES games are remade into Morrowind, shows you how much of a lingering effect Morrowind had on TES and rpgs in general)

I can't recommend that at the moment to anyone since it's currently unfinished and not in a playable state. Wish people wouldn't do this.

 

[fix-the-spade]

It would make it easier to download mods, and it would attract people who were originally put off by it's 2001-level quality, and modders to buy it. It would be a win-win, for consumer and publisher. What do you think?

Very true, but, a lot of the Morrowind mods come with their own installers, including the TES OVerhaul 3.0, which you MUST get. There are some good combat mods around too, although which ones are available where seems to be variable.

I think people tend to remember Morrowind with a bit too much nostalgia, it's the biggest and most open TES by miles, but the combat is atrocious and walking gets somewhat boring, adding what must be 60+ hours onto an already 100 hour game. But the huge world and deep story are what made it popular, whilst the mods have kept it playable, I certainly wouldn't want to play the vanilla version nowadays, bloody Cliff Racers everywhere!

By far my favourite thing about it though is how it's not centered around the human parts of Tamriel, yes the Empire is present and involved to a degree, but it's mostly a story about the Dark Elves and their history and their (very literal) demons. It feels much more alien than Oblivion/Skyrim once you start getting to the cities carved out of giant crab shells and mushrooms.

 

[Eggsnham]

Morrowind is the type of game that you really need to have played in its golden age to really appreciate. Hell, even in its original release it was pretty lacking in the graphical department.

That said, there are plenty of mods and whatnot to help make the game more accessible and user-friendly. And also some pretty awesome graphical update mods for the game.