So I'm planning on getting one but not sure what version and if I should get authentic or a remake. Anyone own a real one or a reproduction or have shot both and if so which one shoots better?
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I've shot a remake or the original model, and I really like it. It does have a little bit of kick, so if you're not very famliar with guns, it might surprise you a bit. I really like it, and it's pretty hard to mess the thing up. I also recommend putting a scope on it, but I put a scope on everything.
Yeah they are very accurate xD and yeah I would put a scope on it. I also heard that the original is a bit more accurate but it does cost a bit more.MasterOfWorlds said:
I would recommend a modern reproduction that goes by the same plans and materiel, long periods of no use or misuse aren't exactly good for a weapon.
There are plenty of originals out there that have been stored in cosmoline since manufacture. In essence, you can get a brand new Nagant that was made in 1943 (that's the year of my roommate's, anyway) for around $100 at most sporting goods stores. I've fired a few, and I loved 'em all. As for different models... all of the ones I've fired were full-length and made in Russia. My roommate's is an M91/30 [http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinM9130S.htm].
If you're looking for a good resource on these rifes, though, look no further than
http://7.62x54r.net/
Oh, and here are all the different models listed:
http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinM.htm
If you're looking for a good resource on these rifes, though, look no further than
http://7.62x54r.net/
Oh, and here are all the different models listed:
http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinM.htm
If you're purchasing it for sport (target shooting or even hunting) i would forgo a Mosin-Nagant and choose another, more modern bolt action rifle. You have a wide selection to choose from and it would be better to try several to see what suits you the most. I find weight is an important factor in selecting a rifle you are comfortable with, but there are many other factors to consider such as the length of the gun, the recoil, maintenance and so on. If you're looking to buy a Mosin-Nagant purely for collector or decorative purposes, then obviously an original would be better because the real deal is always best when it comes to anitques and collectibles, even when just used as decoration. I have an SS dagger for example that's hung decoratively in my room which was made in 1945. It has a few scuff marks that show its age (noticeably the sheath, but the blade itself is in near perfect condition complete with engraving) but that adds to its character and authenticity. A replica just wouldn't be the same no matter how shiny and new it looked. Likewise for the Iron Cross 2nd class medal that's also hung decoratively in my room from World War 2.
What exactly do you mean by remake? All the Mosins I've seen around have been Russian (with the occasional Finnish mixed in).
I've put about 350 rounds through my 91/50 and it's been great so far (been working my way through a 440 round can of surplus). I've had a few cases where it got a little hard to cycle the bolt after it got hot, but it goes *bang* every time I pull the trigger and hits right where I point it.
I've put about 350 rounds through my 91/50 and it's been great so far (been working my way through a 440 round can of surplus). I've had a few cases where it got a little hard to cycle the bolt after it got hot, but it goes *bang* every time I pull the trigger and hits right where I point it.
There is one big reason to go with a Mosin-Nagant over a modern rifle for sport shooting... price. The rifles and the surplus ammo to fire from them are still ridiculously cheap.Gralian said:
Now for hunting, you may want to go with something else. Soft-point 7.62x54r is specialty ammunition any way you look at it.
True that, but for sport shooting i assumed that meant target shooting, which is something that can be taken quite seriously, particularly if you frequent a local gun club which has teams running for competitions. Cheap and cheerful is good for recreation but if you want to get serious you can't skimp on the cost.loc978 said:
I have an original model 1891/30 from the USSR. I replaced the wood with a black glass fiber Accustock and put a Zeiss Conquest scope on it. The thing you need to realize is that if you are going to put a scope on it, then you will need to do a lot to the weapon. I had to shear off the original bolt lever and replace it with a horizontal one, and you will need a drill press to firge holes in the barrel for the scope adapter that goes on top. The two bolts they normally send are garbage and I've seen then sheer and destroy the rifle and have the scope fly back in a persons face, so you need to match them with titanium and use Loctite.
I love my rifle, but you need to know how much effort it is to maintain as well. You'll find that most of the ammo you'll come across for it is corrosive, and that means it is imperative that you clean and grease the gun every single time you use it and immediately after. If you don't completely disassemble the bolt then it will corrode!
I've sighted my rifle in at 150 yds, and can keep a quarter inch grouping with no problem. I use a Zeiss scope though, and you'll find with iron sights it's accurate to about 100 yds with a 1 1/2" grouping. I've sighted it up to 300 yds before and had no troubles keeping it in the T Zone.
Another big problem is safety. The gun is designed for war, so it has no safety. You have to be incredibly safe with this weapon. I never transport it with the bolt in, and it's not a bad idea to leave the ammo cache open when it's being handled.
Any reproduction models will not be as sturdy or accurate. The originals are forged steel ready for combat in Soviet ice, snow, mud, and sand.
To sum it up. It's a great gun, but it's a lot of work. So if it's your first rifle then I would recommend something else.
I love my rifle, but you need to know how much effort it is to maintain as well. You'll find that most of the ammo you'll come across for it is corrosive, and that means it is imperative that you clean and grease the gun every single time you use it and immediately after. If you don't completely disassemble the bolt then it will corrode!
I've sighted my rifle in at 150 yds, and can keep a quarter inch grouping with no problem. I use a Zeiss scope though, and you'll find with iron sights it's accurate to about 100 yds with a 1 1/2" grouping. I've sighted it up to 300 yds before and had no troubles keeping it in the T Zone.
Another big problem is safety. The gun is designed for war, so it has no safety. You have to be incredibly safe with this weapon. I never transport it with the bolt in, and it's not a bad idea to leave the ammo cache open when it's being handled.
Any reproduction models will not be as sturdy or accurate. The originals are forged steel ready for combat in Soviet ice, snow, mud, and sand.
To sum it up. It's a great gun, but it's a lot of work. So if it's your first rifle then I would recommend something else.
I know someone who owns one. But you'll have to kill him first:
Seriously, thanks to you I want to play MGS3 again...
Well I have had a Single Action 30-06 from World war II era.. I doubt it was war gun but it was from the era (Got it from grandpa) Also also a lever action .22.Citizen Snips said:
I mainly want it to collect it but I do want to fire it a few times. I know there are better more modern guns but for some reason I just love the classics.
I also have other guns that I shoot that belong to my dad but they are basically mine anyway (I can use them whenever I please)Citizen Snips said:
