SAS. The fact that they recruit people who have distinguished themselves in other forms of service already, combined with their record and training, puts them leagues above most everyone else. Israeli special forces are up there too.
Most deadly fighting force in the world today?
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In terms of deadly fighting forces, what do you want them to do exactly?
Clear a building of terrorists in about a minute with no/minimal civilian casualties - SAS all the way
Dominate a battlefield from the air - US Army (AH-64), USAF (A-10) and the R.A.F. (Tornados and Typhoons for precision strikes)
Destroy everything in a building and leave no survivors - Spetsnaz
The US has the tech and the numbers, but like-for-like, they're not always the best. It's why coalition forces are so strong. The best tool for the job at any given moment, regardless of nationality.
Clear a building of terrorists in about a minute with no/minimal civilian casualties - SAS all the way
Dominate a battlefield from the air - US Army (AH-64), USAF (A-10) and the R.A.F. (Tornados and Typhoons for precision strikes)
Destroy everything in a building and leave no survivors - Spetsnaz
The US has the tech and the numbers, but like-for-like, they're not always the best. It's why coalition forces are so strong. The best tool for the job at any given moment, regardless of nationality.
I'm gonna say the most deadly fighting force in the world is probably one we don't know about. Large scale, the US has the most deadly, just because of how much money is thrown into new tech. However, if we're talking infantry, I think a PMC packed with highly trained, highly experienced ex-military soldiers would be extremely lethal. As far as k/d goes though, the Spartans have a pretty good record.
I'm British too, but I'm going to go with the Royal Marines. They have what's defined to be the hardest training regiment, and they're more versatile than the SAS.theparsonski said:
That's only because they play by different rules. Killing all infidels is encouraged by Jihad, whereas American forces at least make a pretense of "trying to miss" the women and children.ElPatron said:
While I can't speak to the battle prowess of any particular special forces unit, to me there is something inherently frightening about being killed by an unmanned drone. It's kinda like bringing a knife to a gun fight.
Actually, I think NOD would be the deadliest fighting force in the world. They have towers with frickin laser beams attached to the top. How cool is that?
The Special Boat Service definetly, tough selection, oldest British special forces, recruit primarily from the Royal Marines. Also all of the UK special forces bear excalibur on their badges (thats just for interest). I'm British.Binnsyboy said:
No, I'll take the severed head of an enemy leader over some picture, which could have been doctored, anytime. Go Gurkhas!octafish said:
Anyways, my vote goes to the people with their fingers, on the buttons to launched the nukes. You wanted deadly? We got enough missiles to crack the damn planet bitches! Thats the most deadly fighting force on the planet.
Weapons are nothing without someone without pulling the trigger.Combine Rustler said:
The world could be swarming in firearms, if there were no humans to load them and fire them, they would never destroy anything. Except perhaps some plants crushed by all the weight and having the sun blocked.
What rules? Do you think the Russian elite forces play by the rules?Skratt said:
If there is an hostage situation, they kill all the terrorists and civilians involved, because they are friggin' Russian elite forces. Specially the Spetsnaz, they eat, breathe and drink violence.
I am talking about goat herders and farmers armed with .303 bolt action rifles fighting against hordes of Russian soldiers armed with AK-74s.
I mean, they were able to fight back everyone since Genghis Khan.
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No, I am talking about the people. The Afghanis have fought everyone back for centuries.Mr.PlanetEater said:
Well, they fucked up the Russians pretty good. They were the ones pulling the triggers, not the Americans.
But forget the guerrilla war. They have been fighting for longer than the US has existed, I just gave two examples and everyone is trying to make sure I know the story behind it.
What is the point to having them? If they kill everyone, including the people being held hostage, why even bother training them? Just bomb the place - you aren't leaving anyone standing anyway.ElPatron said:
I'm not a military history buff, so forgive my ignorance please, but it just seems pointless to have them at all. Those don't even seem like special forces to me, just trained indiscriminate assassins based on your description.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_theater_hostage_crisisSkratt said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_school_hostage_crisis
Spetsnaz is a special force, and they have units under the FSB and the Ministry of the Interior.
But their tactics are very brutal and oriented for warfare, not for hostage rescue, and yet they also play the "SWAT" role on several occasions.
Just to show that the Russian elite can be as unforgiving and as "dirty" as the Mujaheddin were.
Actually, the U.S. has more than a trillion dollar debt and is very much broke.Kahunaburger said:
We apparently don't have enough money left for education, healthcare, or stimulus, but we have [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lz6XWStZV48&feature=related] a shitton [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcmuPc8_SWQ] of money [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaAF_3WMJGM] for warfare. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7Wt4XlXUrc]
OT: The U.S. government on a whole kills more humans than any other group on Earth I would say.
The Moscow theatre thing is a bad example. The attack was fine, the terrorists were going to kill everyone anyway, saving one person is a step up, and they got very many hostages out.ElPatron said:
Where the Russians went wrong was not having enough ambulances on standby, and enough bed spaces at hospitals to take all the hostages after. If they had, it would have been a great triumph.
An ENTIRE legion of the Emperor's (Sith) best troops - oh wait, no, they got beaten by bears
Probs Israeli, British or US forces although if you're looking for the most deadly then the strategic arms department of any nuclear country surely provides the most deadly assortment of force in Ballistic missile form
Probs Israeli, British or US forces although if you're looking for the most deadly then the strategic arms department of any nuclear country surely provides the most deadly assortment of force in Ballistic missile form
As for the greatest fighting force today in terms of skill and ability per solider (meaning not the biggest in numbers but the best trained and with best service records), I must go with Marinejegerkommandoen (MJK) from Norway.
Norwegian solider have generaly been praised as highly trained, with focus on intelligence, a varied and flexible skill set and a high efficiency per solider.
One Norwegian is trained so to try to be the equiviliant to 5 other solider because of our small population.
They had a great service record in the middle-eastern wars, and only those soliders who voluntaired where actually dispatched to foreign wars, so that is a big morale factor IMHO.
Norwegian solider have generaly been praised as highly trained, with focus on intelligence, a varied and flexible skill set and a high efficiency per solider.
One Norwegian is trained so to try to be the equiviliant to 5 other solider because of our small population.
They had a great service record in the middle-eastern wars, and only those soliders who voluntaired where actually dispatched to foreign wars, so that is a big morale factor IMHO.