I live in Texas, and contrary to popular belief, it is not the seething cauldron of racism everyone seems to believe it is. Mostly because Latinos and whites have intermarried so often over the last few decades that no one can really afford to be racist. You might be offending your own cousin.
Most Racist Thing You've Seen?
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Actually, I just thought of a better one. How silly of me. I assist nonprofit immigration lawyers at work and I've seen lots of country conditions articles. Casual racism is pretty tame compared to race-based genocide.
Still, the things I remember best were against homosexuals, rather than people of a certain race. Check some Brazilian media to hear about "The Homosexualist Agenda". Go to Uganda to read a most wanted criminal list of "The Top 10 Homos in Uganda". Check a Nigerian newspaper to read about how "Dangerous homosexuals are walking the streets and stalking your children." And of course there was the news article we saw on the Escapist where a student from Nigeria used magnets to "prove" homosexuality was wrong and unnatural.
Still, the things I remember best were against homosexuals, rather than people of a certain race. Check some Brazilian media to hear about "The Homosexualist Agenda". Go to Uganda to read a most wanted criminal list of "The Top 10 Homos in Uganda". Check a Nigerian newspaper to read about how "Dangerous homosexuals are walking the streets and stalking your children." And of course there was the news article we saw on the Escapist where a student from Nigeria used magnets to "prove" homosexuality was wrong and unnatural.
Yeah it's not only the treatment of the Romani and the Arabs that's shocking, but that it's also considered "acceptable". The mayor of a town in Vendée actually got away with saying something along the lines that the Romani are "vermin".Lieju said:
That and I'm never going to get tired of saying this, but the FN's definition of someone French would alienate almost a good fourth or third of the population. They used to be a Nazi party under Le Pen's father and for some reason people will still vote for them.
P.S: Nice Avatar, I like the BD as well.
The topic sent my mind to recall pieces of fiction that are racist, but everyone just went with their personal experiences. Eh, no instance I would classify as "most racist" comes to mind. I've always lived in places with such an ethnically homogenous population that even making racist jokes seemed out of place.
Well, I agree with these, and not just because I'm GOP. I see nothing wrong with people being made to show ID an prove citizenship before they vote. Indeed I think on a lot of levels this keeps both parties honest, because both sides (democrats more frequently though) have been known to abuse the current standards to get people to vote multiple times. We've even had some outrageous situations with busloads of un-IDed people, usually minorities or homeless people, being bribed with booze and cigarettes and then driven around from district to district, and stuff like that. Not to mention all the ghosts who mysteriously "rise from the grave" to vote every year when one party or another collects the names of dead people who are still on the record and then run around claiming to be them so they can cast a vote in their name. It gets even more ridiculous from there. It seems every major election we get a new story or three, and then people forget about it. At any rate the Dems playing the system so much is probably why they are complaining about it so much, and using the racial arguments to try and sell it. With the country so divided and elections being resolved by such tiny margins every little bit helps. Also understand, I'm well aware my own party has done it's own shady crap (which is still wrong). I think while these laws hurt the Democratic style of antics more in the short term, it's a common sense thing and will help in the long run. Not to mention that there has been plenty of warning ahead of time for people to prepare for this, with the issue being screamed from the rooftops for a long time.DirgeNovak said:
That said, the most racist behavior I've seen tends to come from the actions of liberals and minorities who feel they are somehow justified to act against the majority, which lead to situations like Ferguson getting out of control. I mean you basically had the media encouraging mob justice while investigations were still ongoing, and you had guys like Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson down there making crap even worse. The problem here is that it's casual, and people don't even remotely consider what they might be doing is wrong.
As far as what people mean by racism here, I'd have to say it comes down to Anime from the 1980s and 1990s with the way how it portrayed pretty much anyone who wasn't Japanese, both blacks and a lot of "white" characters got it pretty badly, unless they were supposed to be hot girls providing some exotic looks for a "harem". That and a lot of antiques and stuff I've seen down in New England and the way black folks and natives were used on signs and promotional material, as well as things like little cast iron black guys with huge exaggerated lips playing the banjo and such. You look around a lot of the higher end antique stuff for "vintage Americana" and you'll see some really racist stuff. Heck I've even seen a few anti-Irish and anti-Italian signs (hand painted and such) restored and up for sale.
Well, one of my grandfathers is racist. We actually were concerned one time because my cousin found out that she was pregnant, and the father was black. She had already dumped the guy, so my grandfather never knew him, but everyone was concerned about what would happen when he saw the child. Needless to say, it isn't particularly thrilling to be glad that a child from an interracial couple was born white enough to not anger her racist great grandfather. Funnily enough, she's actually my grandfather's favorite great-grandchild, at least if what I can gather from what my cousins say on Facebook is any good.
But as for a specific instance, it has to be when a guy was complaining to me about my manager. After his ranting, which included plenty of "*****" comments, he then said, "You know what you call people like her? You call them a ******." Now if that's all he said, I would have just passed that off as another angry old guy ranting (you get plenty of them at Walmart). Then he said, "And you know that things in this country have only gone down hill since they came along." I don't think I have ever been a situation where I came closer to being fired than then. I would have kicked him out of the store, but I was working outside when he started talking to me, and by then, kicking him out wouldn't work.
But as for a specific instance, it has to be when a guy was complaining to me about my manager. After his ranting, which included plenty of "*****" comments, he then said, "You know what you call people like her? You call them a ******." Now if that's all he said, I would have just passed that off as another angry old guy ranting (you get plenty of them at Walmart). Then he said, "And you know that things in this country have only gone down hill since they came along." I don't think I have ever been a situation where I came closer to being fired than then. I would have kicked him out of the store, but I was working outside when he started talking to me, and by then, kicking him out wouldn't work.
Yes, and using racial slurs against Romani and racist sayings is something I have had to self-police myself over. They were just part of the language I picked up growing up before I really understood them.Frission said:
The attitudes towards other minorities (except the Karelians maybe) were more 'oh, those are exotic!'. There wasn't really hostility, but...
Well, for example the village gathering to stare at the black man visiting like he was from the moon.
Hah, thanks. I grew up with that stuff. (And I do love Prunelle)Frission said:
A lot of my life.
Even when I don't look for it, my race is called into question. Even my compliments are usually stunned "you're so well spoken for a black guy", "I don't mean to sound racist, but if I didn't know you, I'd be terrified of you." and the like.
I've taken up the hobby of looking up police injustice in seeing how some cops are outright lying, being caught on tape, and still being cleared of all charges. I've read pieces conducted by my own state in seeing how Blacks and Whites are being arrested for the same things, the same severity, same recidivism, and at the same times... while a good majority of whites are given the benefit of the doubt, Blacks are usually given the harsher punishments.
But the most racist things I've seen? The comments. Even if some of them are trolls, some of those people mean it. And they are so brainwashed that even if the truth is in front of them, minorities are just shifty. That's why so many of them are in jail.
They don't want to hear the realities of Socio-economy trials or such. It's just in minorities' nature. They are just a breed apart.
Do NOT go to social media which tries to expose corruption in politics and policing if you want to keep faith in the general good of people. It will not end well.
Captcha: On the QT.
... Really Captcha? You say that to a black guy on a racist thread
Even when I don't look for it, my race is called into question. Even my compliments are usually stunned "you're so well spoken for a black guy", "I don't mean to sound racist, but if I didn't know you, I'd be terrified of you." and the like.
I've taken up the hobby of looking up police injustice in seeing how some cops are outright lying, being caught on tape, and still being cleared of all charges. I've read pieces conducted by my own state in seeing how Blacks and Whites are being arrested for the same things, the same severity, same recidivism, and at the same times... while a good majority of whites are given the benefit of the doubt, Blacks are usually given the harsher punishments.
But the most racist things I've seen? The comments. Even if some of them are trolls, some of those people mean it. And they are so brainwashed that even if the truth is in front of them, minorities are just shifty. That's why so many of them are in jail.
They don't want to hear the realities of Socio-economy trials or such. It's just in minorities' nature. They are just a breed apart.
Do NOT go to social media which tries to expose corruption in politics and policing if you want to keep faith in the general good of people. It will not end well.
Captcha: On the QT.
... Really Captcha? You say that to a black guy on a racist thread
Forgive me: As a non-American, what was supposed to be racist about this?PsychicTaco115 said:
Title explains it all
For me, it's all that Ray Rice costume bullshit... Who thought THAT would be a good idea??
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The kid is in black face pretending to be a black wife beater guy dragging his black unconscious fiance around.chocolate pickles said:Forgive me: As a non-American, what was supposed to be racist about this?PsychicTaco115 said:
Title explains it all
For me, it's all that Ray Rice costume bullshit... Who thought THAT would be a good idea??
WARNING: If anyone mentions GamerGate, I'll get mi mod friends to ban you. I've got 69 proxies and 420 firewalls and browse in incognito mode, you'll never know it was me
http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_c5nk3w3n/
SO yea.. that is pretty messed up in so many ways..
My grandmother's South African neighbour refusing point blank to let a guy from British Gas enter her house or even to acknowledge him because (you guessed it) he was black.
She actually called me round to talk to him and get the meter reading on his behalf. I remember being just as confused and surprised at the situation as the poor guy from British Gas, neither of us had ever encountered that situations before. I'd always assumed the aggressively racist South African was an extreme stereotype, but at least now I know why she moved to England...
She actually called me round to talk to him and get the meter reading on his behalf. I remember being just as confused and surprised at the situation as the poor guy from British Gas, neither of us had ever encountered that situations before. I'd always assumed the aggressively racist South African was an extreme stereotype, but at least now I know why she moved to England...
OK. thanks for clarification. I'm gonna be honest, though, i don't really find that racist - poor taste? oh yeah, like dressing up as Hitler. But not really racist. It seems more like making fun of an individual rather than of a race.Lil devils x said:The kid is in black face pretending to be a black wife beater guy dragging his black unconscious fiance around.chocolate pickles said:Forgive me: As a non-American, what was supposed to be racist about this?PsychicTaco115 said:
Title explains it all
For me, it's all that Ray Rice costume bullshit... Who thought THAT would be a good idea??
WARNING: If anyone mentions GamerGate, I'll get mi mod friends to ban you. I've got 69 proxies and 420 firewalls and browse in incognito mode, you'll never know it was me
http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_c5nk3w3n/
I see it as being in poor taste AND racist, as well as a Hitler costume. I mean you knock on a an elderly Jewish woman's door on Halloween dressed as Hitler, can you imagine how upsetting that would be?chocolate pickles said:OK. thanks for clarification. I'm gonna be honest, though, i don't really find that racist - poor taste? oh yeah, like dressing up as Hitler. But not really racist. It seems more like making fun of an individual rather than of a race.Lil devils x said:The kid is in black face pretending to be a black wife beater guy dragging his black unconscious fiance around.chocolate pickles said:Forgive me: As a non-American, what was supposed to be racist about this?PsychicTaco115 said:
Title explains it all
For me, it's all that Ray Rice costume bullshit... Who thought THAT would be a good idea??
WARNING: If anyone mentions GamerGate, I'll get mi mod friends to ban you. I've got 69 proxies and 420 firewalls and browse in incognito mode, you'll never know it was me
http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_c5nk3w3n/
The reason the costume is not only in poor taste is that it also mocks and perpetuates the racist stereotypes of blacks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereotypes_of_African_Americans
My friend got an angry glare from some weird lady when we were at Disney World.
Ray Rice was suspended indefinitely by NFL for domestic abuse against his wife. So the doll plays a part.Casual Shinji said:
The doll is ray rice dragging his unconscious fiance around, his fiance IS the doll.mysecondlife said:
Depends on what kind of racism (and I'm assuming 'in a movie' doesn't count)
Hateful: "N#@%r whore" was used to describe my boss - To her face - after she refused to let a customer walk out of the store with whipped cream that the speaker's husband was snorting and she hadn't paid for. I mean... WOW. Good lord almighty, WOW.
Stupid: "Racism is when someone who disagrees with your views is someone different from you." This was a particularly bad attempt by a talk show host's viewer to label a comment the host made on a french person as 'racist'.
Silly: "Look, if we really want racism to stop, let's gather all the black people in America and send them to a colony on the moon. Either they'll all die or humanity will have a brand new space colony! Win-win!" This person wasn't being serious, which is the main reason it's under 'silly'.
Hypocritical: "You white people are just a bunch of f#@$ing racist hypocrites!" A latino man protesting a group of people protesting the unsecure border. I'm not sure this counts since I saw it on a youtube video but it's not the only time I've heard this general line. Just the only one for which I can clearly recall the circumstances.
Ridiculous: "If you believe in the Holocaust, you're racist towards arabs." ... Okay, this one's mostly a lie. It was the general idea given by the poster but this is hugely paraphrased from a paragraph.
Hateful: "N#@%r whore" was used to describe my boss - To her face - after she refused to let a customer walk out of the store with whipped cream that the speaker's husband was snorting and she hadn't paid for. I mean... WOW. Good lord almighty, WOW.
Stupid: "Racism is when someone who disagrees with your views is someone different from you." This was a particularly bad attempt by a talk show host's viewer to label a comment the host made on a french person as 'racist'.
Silly: "Look, if we really want racism to stop, let's gather all the black people in America and send them to a colony on the moon. Either they'll all die or humanity will have a brand new space colony! Win-win!" This person wasn't being serious, which is the main reason it's under 'silly'.
Hypocritical: "You white people are just a bunch of f#@$ing racist hypocrites!" A latino man protesting a group of people protesting the unsecure border. I'm not sure this counts since I saw it on a youtube video but it's not the only time I've heard this general line. Just the only one for which I can clearly recall the circumstances.
Ridiculous: "If you believe in the Holocaust, you're racist towards arabs." ... Okay, this one's mostly a lie. It was the general idea given by the poster but this is hugely paraphrased from a paragraph.
It is racist because Hitler tried to exterminate her due to her race. Someone trying to exterminate you due to your race would definitely be classified as racism, and to pretend to be that person is extremely racially offensive. No, it isn't a matter of trying to lump everything into an " ism" category, but when it is hate related due to race, racism is a sub category specifying that is what it is, but not the only category it falls under, just one of them.Res Plus said:Hmm.. not really sure making an elderly Jewish woman upset is "racist" per se, it's just very unpleasant. Seems to be an urge to lump all "offense" as an "-ism" these days. I also don't see how making a costume of a person known to have committed an offence, which specifically refers to that individual's offence, can be racism, if that person has committed the offence. Logically, you'd end up with a situation where people are protected from satire or criticism solely due to their race, which is wrong.Lil devils x said:I see it as being in poor taste AND racist, as well as a Hitler costume. I mean you knock on a an elderly Jewish woman's door on Halloween dressed as Hitler, can you imagine how upsetting that would be?chocolate pickles said:OK. thanks for clarification. I'm gonna be honest, though, i don't really find that racist - poor taste? oh yeah, like dressing up as Hitler. But not really racist. It seems more like making fun of an individual rather than of a race.Lil devils x said:The kid is in black face pretending to be a black wife beater guy dragging his black unconscious fiance around.chocolate pickles said:Forgive me: As a non-American, what was supposed to be racist about this?PsychicTaco115 said:
Title explains it all
For me, it's all that Ray Rice costume bullshit... Who thought THAT would be a good idea??
WARNING: If anyone mentions GamerGate, I'll get mi mod friends to ban you. I've got 69 proxies and 420 firewalls and browse in incognito mode, you'll never know it was me
http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_c5nk3w3n/
The reason the costume is not only in poor taste is that it also mocks and perpetuates the racist stereotypes of blacks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereotypes_of_African_Americans
OT - I didn't see it first hand but in the 70s my Dad was stationed in Singapore and he claims Singapore customs had a colour chart which they matched against people's skin and they simply refused entry if you were the "wrong" colour. Now that is genuine racism.
I would say that for it to be considered racist there would have to be some intent behind it. For example, blacking your face and dressing up as a stereotypical black person from the ghetto and carrying around fried chicken and a bottle of cool aid or a watermelon would be racist because you are specifically picking out all of the negative or generic stereotypes of that race. Dressing up as a Hitler isn't saying that being Jewish is a bad thing, it's just being dressed as a recognisable historical figure.Lil devils x said:It is racist because Hitler tried to exterminate her due to her race. Someone trying to exterminate you due to your race would definitely be classified as racism, and to pretend to be that person is extremely racially offensive. No, it isn't a matter of trying to lump everything into an " ism" category, but when it is hate related due to race, racism is a sub category specifying that is what it is, but not the only category it falls under, just one of them.Res Plus said:Hmm.. not really sure making an elderly Jewish woman upset is "racist" per se, it's just very unpleasant. Seems to be an urge to lump all "offense" as an "-ism" these days. I also don't see how making a costume of a person known to have committed an offence, which specifically refers to that individual's offence, can be racism, if that person has committed the offence. Logically, you'd end up with a situation where people are protected from satire or criticism solely due to their race, which is wrong.Lil devils x said:I see it as being in poor taste AND racist, as well as a Hitler costume. I mean you knock on a an elderly Jewish woman's door on Halloween dressed as Hitler, can you imagine how upsetting that would be?chocolate pickles said:OK. thanks for clarification. I'm gonna be honest, though, i don't really find that racist - poor taste? oh yeah, like dressing up as Hitler. But not really racist. It seems more like making fun of an individual rather than of a race.Lil devils x said:The kid is in black face pretending to be a black wife beater guy dragging his black unconscious fiance around.chocolate pickles said:Forgive me: As a non-American, what was supposed to be racist about this?PsychicTaco115 said:
Title explains it all
For me, it's all that Ray Rice costume bullshit... Who thought THAT would be a good idea??
WARNING: If anyone mentions GamerGate, I'll get mi mod friends to ban you. I've got 69 proxies and 420 firewalls and browse in incognito mode, you'll never know it was me
http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_c5nk3w3n/
The reason the costume is not only in poor taste is that it also mocks and perpetuates the racist stereotypes of blacks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereotypes_of_African_Americans
OT - I didn't see it first hand but in the 70s my Dad was stationed in Singapore and he claims Singapore customs had a colour chart which they matched against people's skin and they simply refused entry if you were the "wrong" colour. Now that is genuine racism.
Dressing up as Ray Rice isn't saying that all black men are wife beaters, just that Ray Rice is. So while it is indeed bad taste, it isn't racist.
Remember that racist is against a whole race of people, not a specific member of that race.
I worked as a cashier at Walmart. I can't really point to any one instance off the top of my head, but I do remember being appalled by some people's comments (not towards me, just about other races).