Most Underrated and Most Overrated Person Since 1660?
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Most overrated: Swedish king Karl XII. He single handedly changed Sweden from a strong war nation in Europe, to what we are today. Yet people celebrate him because he fought the last good war. Of course he fought the last good war. Since we lost it because of him, we never fought any more wars.
Most underrated: I'll have to come back on that one.
Most underrated: I'll have to come back on that one.
Underrated: Frederick Von Steuben, he wrote the "Blue Book" for drill tactics and discipline of the Continental Army which led America to Victory in the Revolutionary War, no body really knows America owes her freedom to a Prussian.
Overrated: Barrack Obama is seriously over rated, "But, he's cleaning up Bush's mess." Bullshit, what year is it? Why are westill in 2 3 wars right now? Why is he spending money that we don't have, it's just MORE and MORE problems one after another and the dimwits in Congress/Senate (all of em, I don't care what party they are) aren't helping. I could go on, but, I don't feel like going through three years of half true news articles.
Overrated: Barrack Obama is seriously over rated, "But, he's cleaning up Bush's mess." Bullshit, what year is it? Why are we
Overrated: Christopher Columbus - he never found America it was already there and first "discovered" by the indigenous people. Anyway, there are dozens of earlier potential European candidates anyway.
Underrated: No idea really...
Underrated: No idea really...
Overrated: Thomas Edison, stole a lot of ideas / patents from other people.
Underrated: Nikola Tesla, had a lot of brilliant, world-changing works stolen or sabotaged.
Underrated: Nikola Tesla, had a lot of brilliant, world-changing works stolen or sabotaged.
Overrated: Not actually quite sure. I'd like to say Columbus, but he was 1490.
Underrated: Tim Berners Lee...the early 90's may not be "history" yet, but heck he invented the world wide web. His idea of taking the internet to a globalised level has changed history forever.
Underrated: Tim Berners Lee...the early 90's may not be "history" yet, but heck he invented the world wide web. His idea of taking the internet to a globalised level has changed history forever.
I've always found Gerald Ford to be underrated.
Overrated would probably be Lincoln.
Outside the American view....
I dont know underrated, but overrated is Princess Anastasia.
Overrated would probably be Lincoln.
Outside the American view....
I dont know underrated, but overrated is Princess Anastasia.
Sorry you guys are no longer a major military power. I still think Sweden's awesome, though.IamQ said:
Overrated: Y'know, I really can't think of the best option for here. I'll come back to it.
Underrated: Nikola Tesla. He built a machine and accidentally found the resonant frequency of the Earth and the shaking would have leveled a city block if he didn't shut it off in time. He then later boasted that he could have broken the earth in two and nobody dared him. Also he found a way to wirelessly light a lightbulb from 200 miles away. Some researchers at MIT got their panties wet because they did it from seven feet.
Overrated: Haile Selassie I of Ethiopia; an entire religious movement (the Rastafarian movement) was started because the people of Jamaica decided he was god incarnate and returned messiah. The Rasta religion is a good relgion and I have respect for it but lets just say that Selassie was a..."Tosser" as the english would say, he wasn't that great.
Underrated: Ayatollah Khomeini, but then again any Middle Eastern person is tossed aside simply for being Middle Eastern.
Underrated: Ayatollah Khomeini, but then again any Middle Eastern person is tossed aside simply for being Middle Eastern.
Overrated: George Washington. The man was a disaster on the battle field, but he always knew where to shift the blame.
Underrated: A lot of people going Tesla, so I think that I will go for Lord Dowing. Won a great air engagment in WW2, didn't get the credit for many years.
Underrated: A lot of people going Tesla, so I think that I will go for Lord Dowing. Won a great air engagment in WW2, didn't get the credit for many years.
Say what? Anybody who knows even a little bit about taxonomy is aware of the fact that he refined binomial nomenclature. Also, what about the Linnean Society?Ekit said:
Overrated: Ronald Reagan, the man who wrecked the economy, raised global tensions, allowed AIDS to run unchecked, bankrupted intercity programs, got involved with Saddam, sold weapons to American enemies and pandered so hard to corrupt American businesses that the practice of rewarding businesses for outsourcing American jobs, firing workers and making risky business practices while cutting funding to people who form the middle class became known as "Reaganomics." The man who made it cool to even think that trickle down funding would increase jobs and not just line the pockets of CEOs and executives. When you see on the news that GE, the 2nd largest company in the WORLD, made 3.2 billion from the government and payed no taxes in 2009, even though they have more workers outside of American than inside, thank Reagan for setting the precedent.
Underrated: Henrietta Lacks, a woman who unknowingly saved countless lives without her knowledge. She died of cervical cancer in 1951, but the tissue sample the researchers took showed remarkable vigor, as the cells wouldn't die naturally. Eventually they learned to clone the cells and use them to study genetics, cancer, AIDS, toxicity and to test medicines. They grew 20 tons of cells out of the small sample they took, and she is possibly the greatest unsung hero of the medical world. Her family never even knew about the sample or how it was used until 25 years after her death.
Underrated: Henrietta Lacks, a woman who unknowingly saved countless lives without her knowledge. She died of cervical cancer in 1951, but the tissue sample the researchers took showed remarkable vigor, as the cells wouldn't die naturally. Eventually they learned to clone the cells and use them to study genetics, cancer, AIDS, toxicity and to test medicines. They grew 20 tons of cells out of the small sample they took, and she is possibly the greatest unsung hero of the medical world. Her family never even knew about the sample or how it was used until 25 years after her death.
You do realize that Karl XII, at age 15, was forced to fight a defensive war against a coalition that included Russia, Poland, Denmark, and Saxony, which all wanted to gang-rape Sweden and basically annihilate Sweden as a Great Power?IamQ said:
Given the situation, it's amazing that Sweden lasted that long - and almost won the damn war. The problem with Karl XII is that he was an inept, uncompromizing diplomat. It was an all-or-nothing deal for him, crushing victory or bust.
And we continued to fight quite a few wars after Karl XII. In fact, the last war fought was under Bernadotte as Crown Regent. That is why we obtained Norway instead of Finland at the Treaty of Kiel.
Underrated - Alan Turing. After making huge steps in cryptography and early computer science, he was sentenced to death.
Overrated - Charles Manson. I don't know why, but people seem to see him as some sort of celebrity. He was a serial killer. That's not a good thing. Actually, he's probably not the most overrated, but he annoys me the most, so he's the one getting posted.
Overrated - Charles Manson. I don't know why, but people seem to see him as some sort of celebrity. He was a serial killer. That's not a good thing. Actually, he's probably not the most overrated, but he annoys me the most, so he's the one getting posted.
