Alien: Resurrection
Alien: Resurrection is a hard film to take seriously and now we learn why.
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Alien: Resurrection is a hard film to take seriously and now we learn why.
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Movie Defense Force: Alien: Resurrection
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But can't anything be a comedy with a sufficiently disturbed mind?
The defense seems like someone defending a shitty student art project as "expressive."
Keep in mind that I'm speaking as someone who didn't hate the movie.
The defense seems like someone defending a shitty student art project as "expressive."
Keep in mind that I'm speaking as someone who didn't hate the movie.
I was very disappointed with the 'Newborn', or the Alien/human hybrid, and refuse to accept it/ acknowledge it at all. I liked it better when we had no power over or understanding of the alien life cycle, hence maintaining the 'alien' part.
However, I do see the other scenes and characters/ interactions in the flick as fun/enjoyable even if a bit strange, so, yeah. Good points, Jim!
However, I do see the other scenes and characters/ interactions in the flick as fun/enjoyable even if a bit strange, so, yeah. Good points, Jim!
I didn't hate the movie, I just rewached it for probably the 30th time recently. I do find it totally over the top, which is probably why I enjoy it.
That and Ripley's just cool. Not as cool in this one, I didn't really like the character as much, but I still love her.
That and Ripley's just cool. Not as cool in this one, I didn't really like the character as much, but I still love her.
Went through all of the Alien movies with my GF (she had never seen any of them) this actually turned out to be her favorite. I saw it as when it first came out (i was 9) and i enjoyed it then, when i re-watched it with her my opinion had not changed.
My only problem with this movie (and I've only seen it once): Winona Ryder. My only problem with Star Trek 2009: Winona Ryder. My only problem with Mr. Deeds: Winona Ryder.
Can someone please just make her go away? And digitally insert someone with actual talent into every role she's ever played ever?
Can someone please just make her go away? And digitally insert someone with actual talent into every role she's ever played ever?
I really liked this movie, and IMO it was the best of the bunch. I saw it in the theater and we erupted in spontaneous applause when
and then all bood when
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I think it also helps to see the director's previous movie Delicatessen, and maybe City of Lost Children, and then watch this one. You can really see how he gets mileage out of the interactions between the quirky and usually defective characters.
Also this movie has one of the best witty exchanges in the history of cinema.
This review his the nail on the head. All of the parts work really well individually but taken as a whole the movie doesn't hold up compared to more cohesive works.
winona was shot
she came back
I think it also helps to see the director's previous movie Delicatessen, and maybe City of Lost Children, and then watch this one. You can really see how he gets mileage out of the interactions between the quirky and usually defective characters.
Also this movie has one of the best witty exchanges in the history of cinema.
Ellen Ripley: Who do I have to fuck to get off this boat?
Johner: I can get you off... maybe not the boat.
Johner: I can get you off... maybe not the boat.
This review his the nail on the head. All of the parts work really well individually but taken as a whole the movie doesn't hold up compared to more cohesive works.
I realized at the end of the movie that it was intentionally a dark comedy. The exchange between ron perlman, and the guy in the wheelchair when the ship is approaching earth .
ron : Shit whats burning
Wheelchair guy: Us!
Ron: Oh right, ahahahahahhhahahah;
It is said so campy and fantastic, there is no way to take this movie super seriously.
ron : Shit whats burning
Wheelchair guy: Us!
Ron: Oh right, ahahahahahhhahahah;
It is said so campy and fantastic, there is no way to take this movie super seriously.
Nope, not with you on this one. Even looking at it as a comedy, it doesn't pass anything for me. The plot is utter non-sense and constantly inconsistent, not just with science (cloning does not work that way), or the Alien internal mythology, but with basic logic. Shit happens just for the sake of shit happening and then gets undone with a distant and dismissive handwave as if it expects us to just buy whatever shit it throws at us. If I wanted to see shit thrown around with no rhyme or reason, I'd go to the zoo and tease some monkeys. I expect better from something put together with the intent of telling a story.
Well yes, you can certainly defend 'Alien: Resurrection' but there is no way in hell anyone can defend 'Terminator 4'!
It's also a quite distinctive aesthetic. I liked it very much when it came out, for that reason alone.rembrandtqeinstein said:
Ugh... hated this movie cause of the hybrid.... grossed and creeped me out.
Rest of it i just looked at it as an Aliens wannabe with pirates instead of soldiers.
I'll watch it again with the idea of a dark comedy in mind though
Rest of it i just looked at it as an Aliens wannabe with pirates instead of soldiers.
I'll watch it again with the idea of a dark comedy in mind though
I always liked Alien Resurrection to a point. It's too much fun not to in places. It has some cool set pieces, amazing design aesthetics and a pretty interesting world. My problem with the newborn was the reveal. It was explained in an obviously ADR'd speech and the whole thing was rushed. That aside it IS creepy and it keeps in tune with my opinions about Aliens movies from 2 on, that they are about a mother battling the mother of another race. That said I don't really view it as a 'canon' movie. It's a really good sci-fi horror but not a good Aliens film. I have my Aliens movies and Ripley dies in 3. This is just a little spin off.
After I watched some more of Jean Pierre Jeunet, I felt like I got the tone of the movie on re-visiting it. Which is basically unlike anything hollywood can produce.
Also The Betty is total proto-Serenity. Whedon's ability to make ironic macho or cliche characters who are incredibly likable and while still being genuinely cool. There is a lot of subtly in the script considering the premise. From the marine who starts as a hostage but becomes a part of the team. The face hugged guy who you actually come to care about and hope he makes it. It's a solid movie. Finally anyone who watches the scene where the CO pulls a piece of his brain out and examines and is not convinced they are watching a darkly comic film really needs to lighten up/watch a wider range of movies
After I watched some more of Jean Pierre Jeunet, I felt like I got the tone of the movie on re-visiting it. Which is basically unlike anything hollywood can produce.
Also The Betty is total proto-Serenity. Whedon's ability to make ironic macho or cliche characters who are incredibly likable and while still being genuinely cool. There is a lot of subtly in the script considering the premise. From the marine who starts as a hostage but becomes a part of the team. The face hugged guy who you actually come to care about and hope he makes it. It's a solid movie. Finally anyone who watches the scene where the CO pulls a piece of his brain out and examines and is not convinced they are watching a darkly comic film really needs to lighten up/watch a wider range of movies
I really liked this movie, but do understand why some hate it so much.
It had some very memorable scenes, and say what you like, but the Clone Room scene is probably the creepiest scene in the whole Aliens franchise.
I also like to think of this movie as Firefly 0.1
And to quote Yatzhee, can't have enough of Ron "Did any of you make people cry with your performance in City of Lost Children?" Perlman.
The hybrid though... It succeeds at being creepy, I'll give it that, but it corrupts the central element of the series (the Aliens) way too much. Then again, nothing as disgusting as what they did with the Predalien in AvP:Requiem.
It had some very memorable scenes, and say what you like, but the Clone Room scene is probably the creepiest scene in the whole Aliens franchise.
I also like to think of this movie as Firefly 0.1
And to quote Yatzhee, can't have enough of Ron "Did any of you make people cry with your performance in City of Lost Children?" Perlman.
The hybrid though... It succeeds at being creepy, I'll give it that, but it corrupts the central element of the series (the Aliens) way too much. Then again, nothing as disgusting as what they did with the Predalien in AvP:Requiem.
I thought it was Whedon who wrote the film as a parody (or at least, so he claims...); it was everyone else who played the script straight and obscured the whole comedy angle. At any rate, I refuse to give a pass to a movie whose intended meaning can only be derived by looking up what the creator(s) later said about it because the movie itself failed to communicate a consistent or coherent tone. A work of art must be able to stand on its own, full-stop.
Still, you can always count on Jim to bring up good points even when you disagree with his overall argument. The chief example in this case is the Newborn, which I also quite liked in spite of my instincts screaming at me that I shouldn't. In its five minutes of screentime, it conveyed a more diverse range of emotions than the entire rest of the film. The practical effects work in general is great, particularly the xenomorph costumes, and even some of the CG stuff looks good (like the laser-activated glass of beer). Plus, Sigourney Weaver's performance, nicely distinct from those she gave in the previous movies in fitting with the significantly altered version of Ripley, once again elevates the material surrounding her, especially in the scenes where she first meets Winona Ryder's character and comes across the lab full of failed clones.
Still, you can always count on Jim to bring up good points even when you disagree with his overall argument. The chief example in this case is the Newborn, which I also quite liked in spite of my instincts screaming at me that I shouldn't. In its five minutes of screentime, it conveyed a more diverse range of emotions than the entire rest of the film. The practical effects work in general is great, particularly the xenomorph costumes, and even some of the CG stuff looks good (like the laser-activated glass of beer). Plus, Sigourney Weaver's performance, nicely distinct from those she gave in the previous movies in fitting with the significantly altered version of Ripley, once again elevates the material surrounding her, especially in the scenes where she first meets Winona Ryder's character and comes across the lab full of failed clones.
Thank you, Jim. Thank you. I have been enjoying this movie since it came out, and I always got the strangest looks when I said that I really liked it. Mind you, I defended the film by saying it was a French movie with the Aliens license. Having seen Jeunet's other films, I had a better grasp on what I was getting into.
Also, huzzah, Dominique Pinon!
Also, huzzah, Dominique Pinon!
