Movie Defense Force: Daredevil

[CriticalMiss]

I get the feeling that the SuperBat film will be bad because of writing more than the casting of Affleck. Hopefully the first half of the film isn't going to be dedicated to a Batman origin story just to make sure we know Bruce's parents were killed when he was a wee lad.

I still don't like the Daredevil film though.

 

[Merklyn236]

The real unfortunate problem with this film is that it didn't age well, but not because the effects were bad or the usual things that go along with that statement. No, the problem is that we had more comic book hero movies come out that really changed the landscape for these things (pretty much everything Marvel has done, the Nolan Batman trilogy) and the idea now is that these kinds of movies can be more than just basic action type movies - which is all that they had been up to that point (X2 being the biggest exception IMHO).

The two biggest problems with the film to me were not enough Matt Murdoch being a lawyer (again, likely to maintain action beats and not go into a 'procedural' type of setting - though I've heard the Director's Cut puts in a whole story for that?), and the scene where Electra's dad gets offed. That scene never worked for me because visually she has no real to believe it was Daredevil and not Bullseye who killed her dad (if they'd had her believing that they were in cahoots, fine, but she didn't even seem to know Bullseye was part of it all). This leads to a third act that, to me, seems a little lost when it starts.

 

[Something Amyss]

Ben Affleck played Blind Ben Affleck out of the costume and Leather Ben Affleck in the costume. That's not handling a superhero movie, that's being Ben Affleck. I have every bit of faith in Ben Affleck's ability to be Ben Affleck. Batman? No. Daredevil? No.

The movie is not without some good points. Colin chews the scenery in a way I wish that Affleck had, because a silly DD movie would be easier to sallow than the grim and gritty version that still looks largely ridiculous. MCD was fucking awesome, but he's MCD. And the action can be pretty good. It can also be kind of bad.

Also it does kinda miss the point with Daredevil on some bits, like how he kills a man and then signs his name with fire...

They were just trying to reference better movies. In this case, The Crow. They seemed to be hoping that if they hit you up with enough bits taken from other films, you'd forget what you were watching.

 

[Bruce]

I saw the theatrical cut - not directors and it was terrible. You know those 'movies' on youtube, made up by stitching together the various FMV sequences in various games? It was like that.

 

[Baldry]

Ben Affleck played Blind Ben Affleck out of the costume and Leather Ben Affleck in the costume. That's not handling a superhero movie, that's being Ben Affleck. I have every bit of faith in Ben Affleck's ability to be Ben Affleck. Batman? No. Daredevil? No.

Also it does kinda miss the point with Daredevil on some bits, like how he kills a man and then signs his name with fire...

They were just trying to reference better movies. In this case, The Crow. They seemed to be hoping that if they hit you up with enough bits taken from other films, you'd forget what you were watching.

Oh good I'm not the only one who noticed Ben Affleck only plays Ben Affleck, in fairness he is the best at being Ben Affleck.
Also if they wanted to achieve that they should've shown me the film the were copying so I at least got the reference and enjoyed a better film for a bit.

 

[Kahani]

Wait, Elektra was a spin-off of this film? Really? But aside from the name of one of the characters there's absolutely nothing whatsoever that they have in common. Daredevil - blind lawyer fights regular criminals with martial arts. Elektra - prophesised chosen one fights weird spirit people with magic to prevent an ancient evil order from taking over the world.

 

[Something Amyss]

Oh good I'm not the only one who noticed Ben Affleck only plays Ben Affleck, in fairness he is the best at being Ben Affleck.
Also if they wanted to achieve that they should've shown me the film the were copying so I at least got the reference and enjoyed a better film for a bit.

I normally like Ben Affleck as Ben Affleck. Which is why he's so bad for a superhero movie. Or any specific character that's not Ben Affleck. He's enjoyable, but I think he'd be a terrible James Bond, a terrible Abe Lincoln, etc. Why? Because he's Ben Affleck. That's who he is and what he does.

Showing The Crow instead of Daredevil would have been a plus. The movie's not flawless, but it is much more worth it. And a better comic book adaptation, I might add.

 

[Something Amyss]

Wait, Elektra was a spin-off of this film? Really? But aside from the name of one of the characters there's absolutely nothing whatsoever that they have in common. Daredevil - blind lawyer fights regular criminals with martial arts. Elektra - prophesised chosen one fights weird spirit people with magic to prevent an ancient evil order from taking over the world.

They even had a deleted scene with Ben Affleck as Murdoch. Well, Ben Affleck as Ben Affleck, but still.

I kind of wonder if they didn't end up entirely attempting to distance the two properties.

"Yeah, sis, but it was better than Mall Rats."

 

[Baldry]

Oh good I'm not the only one who noticed Ben Affleck only plays Ben Affleck, in fairness he is the best at being Ben Affleck.
Also if they wanted to achieve that they should've shown me the film the were copying so I at least got the reference and enjoyed a better film for a bit.

I normally like Ben Affleck as Ben Affleck. Which is why he's so bad for a superhero movie. Or any specific character that's not Ben Affleck. He's enjoyable, but I think he'd be a terrible James Bond, a terrible Abe Lincoln, etc. Why? Because he's Ben Affleck. That's who he is and what he does.

Showing The Crow instead of Daredevil would have been a plus. The movie's not flawless, but it is much more worth it. And a better comic book adaptation, I might add.

Everyone keeps saying he's a good actor but since he's only ever played Ben Affleck I don't see it. Then again maybe I haven't watched enough Ben Affleck films. I just hope he can stop playing Ben Affleck long enough to pull off Batman well enough.
Well DD is a god awful adaptation as well as a terrible film.

 

[orangeapples]

People don't like the Daredevil movie because it spawned the Electra movie. I actually liked the Daredevil movie and I didn't see the director's cut.

 

[Drake666]

Yeah, that was a really REALLY weird part in the movie... worst, at that moment, she thinks he's a blind man... who the heck goes around beating blind person to show they're "capable of kicking asses" ? :|

In Hollywood terminology, "strong woman" is synonymous with "borderline psychopath."

That explains a lot of movies/games :|

Lara Croft, Hanna (ok, that's the point), Jane (Johnny Mnemonic), Sarah Conner!
Ripley wants to nuke everything because she's crazy!

... Ok, I think I need more caffeine

 

[Warachia]

That movie is the video game in name only, the characters are their characters in name only, on its own merits I don't think it's too bad, but it certainly has nothing to do with the game.

I don't know what's the problem people have with movies not matching the game's plot completely. MP the game's plot is completely tailored for needs of a game: Tons of thugs as ammo fodder, dozens of characters that just appear and then disappear (bosses, 'plot twists') - works fine for the game, but a movie with such a plot would look like some of the worse Uwe Boll's creations.

I'm a fan of the first two MP games (didn't play the 3rd one). At one point I played the first MP game several times a day, when it was the only CD my CD-ROM could read. I tried to beat the New York Minute. What I mean is that I am a fan and I do think the movie makes uses the material very well. I can't imagine a MP movie being MUCH better.

Now, Hitman, for example, that could make a much better movie, but Max Payne, not really.

It might just have been a while since I've played the games, but I definitely don't remember any black winged hallucinogenic skinny Valkyries, or the plot being based entirely around a drug that eventually makes you calm and crazy. This isn't about a movie not matching the games plot, this is about the movie being completely different.
What I find really baffling was the almost complete lack of bullet time in the movie (there might have been some, if there was I don't remember it).

You could certainly have used the resources a lot better, and I think that's what disappointed me the most, and got me to decide it was Max Payne in name only, it had enough shootouts, characters and twists that they just had to pick their favourites of the bunch, instead of going with completely new ones.

 

[Something Amyss]

Everyone keeps saying he's a good actor but since he's only ever played Ben Affleck I don't see it. Then again maybe I haven't watched enough Ben Affleck films. I just hope he can stop playing Ben Affleck long enough to pull off Batman well enough.
Well DD is a god awful adaptation as well as a terrible film.

Yeah, the "acting" chops of someone who doesn't really ever change character are kind of...Dubious.

 

[Britisheagle]

I loved the Daredevil movie, and still do. I would't go out of my way to watch it again as I saw it countless times after getting the Director's Cut DVD but I wouldn't with any supposedly good film from the same year either.

If you haven't seen it; do. But make sure it isn't the version that was cut to make it more "appealing". I think Affleck will pull off a good alternative to Batman, mainly because I think he will make Bruce Wayne far more engaging.

 

[NearLifeExperience]

I don't even like Batman, so I don't care. I saw Daredevil too and I can't say I was impressed. Perhaps superhero movies are just inherently bad.