Movie Defense Force: Hook

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Revnak_v1legacy

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I wasn't alive Jim. That's where I was. However, it does startle me that people actually hated this movie. Merely had lukewarm feelings toward, sure, but hated? That's ridiculous. Sure, some of it is terrible, but most of the child actors are okay, Rufio is the 90's-est thing that can exist and not be terrible, and it is one of those really great dad movies, which kids and parents can both love. I actually appreciate it more now because of that, since I can see both messages rather than just the whole "never lose your inner child" thing. It may not be perfect, but it is far from hatable.
 

PunkRex

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I love this film, hell, I even liked Julia Roberts... cause I thought her tomboy look was adorable.
 

Caostotale

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Did Hook really need defending? I applaud the video for feeding my nostalgia but think you guys should step out on the thinner ice of defending the other Robin Williams movie Toys.
 

Winnosh

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SnowWookie said:
I like how Jim spent three and a half minutes defending Hook and then shows a scene that pointedly illustrates just how terrible the movie was.

Yeah, "this didn't need defending", because there's nothing to defend. It's awful. I watched it as a kid, and I actually credit it with being the first movie to make me think about whether what I was watching was any good.
Really? To me that is one of the best scenes in the entire film. Hook is a broken man A man with nothing left but his vengence and then he discovers that the enemy he has spent his entire life plotting to defeat has in fact moved on and forgotten all about him He has NOTHING.

He'd been trying to off himself for years up to that point but this is it he really would have killed himself is Smee hadn't stepped in.
 

blackrave

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Hook was considered bad, at the time?
Ok, you learn something new every day.
Thank you Jim for educating me.
 

Foolery

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I loved this film as a kid. Still do. Wasn't aware it was poorly received. It's my favourite version of Peter Pan. Then again I was born in 1991.

Rufio, Rufio, Rufio....
 

Saltyk

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Isn't Hook one of Nostalgia Critic's favorite movies?

Lunar Templar said:
Where was I Jim?

Not giving a fuck and enjoying Hook for the fun movie it is, that's where I was.
Same here. I loved this movie. It was enjoyable and Dustin Hoffman basically stole the show.

Okay, now I kinda wanna watch the movie...
 

Dinosorcerer

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in my opinion, the critics lambasting it some twenty two years ago would have given it high praise if only they could see the dross that comes out of theaters nowadays.
 

MrHide-Patten

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It's kind of hard to defend a movie... when you're one. Still loved that shit, all I could remember is that stared Robin Williams.
 

Something Amyss

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Trucken said:
"Bullshit! This doesn't need defending! It's a great movie and everybody loves it!"
"Great" and "Love" are a bit much, but it surprises me that this isn't better liked than it appears to be. I remember critics bashing it at the time for its use of actors and budget or something like that, but it came off as snobbish, even to my 11 year old self.
 

Callate

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It doesn't work.

Yeah, much of what Sterling says is true. The set and prop and costume design is all terrific. Hoffman does a really good Hook, and Hoskins does a terrific Shmee. Williams I can take or leave, and I can see why people would feel either way, but that leaves me free to say that it wasn't a bad performance. I feel much the same way about Roberts, though her character's whole presence seems kind of perfunctory; a third hand stapled on during later surgery because for some reason we had to have Tinkerbell.

But on an underlying level, it just doesn't work. When you have people throwing pies on one plane and getting into utterly real and lethal sword battles on another plane of the same fight- seriously, f@$% whatever kind of so-called "whimsy" that allows anyone to witness that and not go "what the hell is wrong with you people?!" It. Does. Not. Work.

Barrie's Peter Pan and Captain Hook were locked into an eternal struggle that worked because they were something like mythical archetypes, dream-shadows of childhood- the evil pirate versus the mischevious, never-aging trickster. Even the maiming that gave Hook his hook was something that happened long-ago, somewhere offstage. It was a backdrop that allowed stereotypical Indians, fairies, pirates, and man-eating crocodiles that pursued their quarries across the ocean to co-exist without a second glance.

Hook tries to extend that sense of disbelief to "logical" real-world conclusions and falters.
 

Something Amyss

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Hoplon said:
Where was i? In the cinema, watching it.
Likewise. And then I had it on VHS. And I think between those two points I had rented it. Well, my family did, I mean. on account of my age at the time.

I also have it on DVD.
 

Diddy_Mao

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I honestly didn't know that this movie was looked ill upon. I freakin' love Hook and Hoffman's portrayal of the titular captain is, in my mind, the go-to template for the character.

Yeah I wasn't overly fond of Roberts as Tinkerbell, but I'm not overly fond of anything Julia Roberts does so I can't really blame Hook for that.

Hell, if I'm being perfectly honest I think Rufio's is quite possibly one of the more powerful on screen death's of my childhood. Bambi's mom and Old Yeller be damned.

As for where I was...I was 11 years old at the time, back off!
 

LittleBlackDragon

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I was going to say, the fact that critics didn't like this movie rather surprised me. I watched this movie a few times growing up and I really liked it. :D
 

LG Jargon

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Saidan said:
Mandatory RU-FI-O! RU-FI-O! RU-FI-O! RU-FI-OOOOOOO!
...Post number 20...It took...19 goddamned posts...for someone to finally mention Rufio...Escapist, I am disappoint.

And SHAME on you, Mr. Sterling, for having the golden opportunity of mentioning the red-feathered-hair gloriousness that is Rufio and completely ignoring it! For shame, Mr. Sterling; FOR SHAAAAAME!

Also, I loved numerous parts of this movie, especially the imaginary dinner and the sword fights. A lot of it was really silly, though; still, it's quite an enjoyable little flick. Like many, I couldn't believe it needed defending. Great vid.
 

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I loved this movie when I was a kid, I was 9 when this came out. It's a lot of fun and well put-together.

You are right about Julia Roberts not being able to act her way out of a paper bag, but it's not like her character is important to the movie.
 

Brian Tams

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"DON'T MESS WITH ME, MAN! I'M A LAWYER!"

This movie is glorious. Everyone I've talked to about it had nothing but bad things to say, so its nice to see Jim come to its defense.
 

zvate

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I was actually surprised to see this movie here. Never knew it was a flop and honestly enjoyed it.
As to where was I... well my family owned the VHS and enjoyed it. Not much more any consumer can do.