Movie Defense Force: Repo! The Genetic Opera

[rayen020]

i've seen this movie exactly twice and one time i was at a party and kept getting interrupted and the other time i got to watch it uninterrupted as part of the stage crew for a shadow play of it. I really need to get it and just sit and watch it. i like the music though. the fandom is fun too.

 

[rayen020]

Nope... no defending this. Musical = indefensible.

Your opinion = invalid

 

[Blow_Pop]

Did anyone ever see the other movie the Director (and about half the cast) of this movie did? The Devil's Carnival? Cause that was, while probably not as memorable, just as good, and the song "Penny for a Tale" is one of my all time favorites.

I think I'm one of the few fans of Repo! that is not that big a fan of The Devil's Carnival. Though "Penny for a Tale" is amazing. Not to say I didn't enjoy it but it's not as enjoyable as Repo! is for me.

I got introduced to this movie because of working Haunt. 2 years ago. I had a few friends sit me down and make me watch it. Been hooked on it ever since. It's definitely cult movie. And there is a LOT of Rocky Horror fans that love Repo! as well. I'm one of them. I made my parents watch this a few weeks ago. They were slightly confused but still got enjoyment out of it. Always nice to see a movie I'm a particular fan of get a good review from others.

And also, anyone who dismisses it because it's an opera (or labelled a musical) needs to get their heads out of their asses as there are good operas and musicals out there. Point in fact, one of my best friends hates musicals. Loves Repo! so dismissing it on those grounds is ridiculous.

 

[rayen020]

btw why hasn't anyone posted Zydrate Anatomy in it's entirety?

 

[viranimus]

Nope... no defending this. Musical = indefensible.

Your opinion = invalid

The opinion leading to the assessment of a conflicting opinions validity = Assumptively inappropriate.

That opinion is no more or less valid than any other. You might think the opinion is invalid. However that requires the justifying phrase "to you". None of us are the authority to judge the validity of the opinions of others. You would be more than welcome to offer up counter points and present an opposing argument why you think my opinion might be incorrect, but to phrase your rebuttal trying to throw my own verbiage back at me illustrates you are not merely expressing disagreeing opinion on the subject and rather responding as if your statement is to be taken as a point of fact instead of the opinion it is in expressing that assessment of validity.

Such a response accomplished nothing. Expressing the opinion that another opinion is not valid does not actually make it so. The only potential result is to generate animosity by glibly dismissing something you do not agree with and failing to resist the compulsion to proactively disrespect the ability of others to express their position. In taking the action to respond not with counter argument but judgement of invalidity such action is expression of proactive disrespect of the validity of the opinion of others that edges this toward little more than personal attack.

So I will state I feel your assessment is incorrect as it was made with no presented basis or evidence to support making such an assessment of invalidity. It is also in its purposely incendiary presentation inappropriate as personal attacks do nothing to generate discussion, effectively lowering the bar of discourse by reducing it to little more than petty bickering. That serves no beneficial purpose. You did not "prove" me wrong, or yourself right and in the process making the thread less pleasant for others to read and in turn less provoking to participate in. I do thank you for the consideration and taking the time to express your opinion on my statement. However I will not argue how more or less valid an opinion is than another.

 

[Jandau]

Just seen it, based on this episode of MDF. I can definitely see why people are so polarized about it. It's a musical, it's on a subject that musicals rarely cover, it's got a slightly bizarre aesthetic, it's got some jarring tonal shifts. Granted, all of those are also reasons why I love it. Yes, there's a few rough edges (the "17" song was outright bad and I fast-forwarded through it), but in general it's a memorable and unique experience and I loved it. Not every movie has to cater to everyone...

 

[Shaidz]

So i just watched this movie, IT'S AWESOME!!!!

 

[plugav]

My main complaint about the movie is that it insists on using the word "genetic" without the slightest idea what it means.

It was also somewhat disappointing that, instead of going for full-on satire, they decided to use this ridiculous setting to tell a classic soap opera plot. (But then it does say "opera" right there in the title...)

Still fun to watch, though, if you can deal with the unique marriage of gore and pomposity. It's got style, it's got a few great songs and it's got Paris Hilton playing a parody of herself.

My one problem with this movie.

HAVE YOU PEOPLE EVER HEARD OF BUSINESS CASUAL?

In the grim darkness of the near future, everyone is goth.

 

[Bocaj2000]

I tried it. I really did, but it came off to me as wasted potential. What was good about it? The story was alright- a little melodramatic for my taste, but alright. The performances were outstanding. The songs were fantastic. when the aesthetic worked, it worked very well. Good cinematography.

What was bad about it? The gothic and S&M aesthetic worked when it was used properly, but, unfortunately, it was used everywhere. And I mean everywhere. I'm sorry, but this utterly destroyed my verisimilitude. Yes, it's a good spectacle, but it's an empty spectacle. There is nothing I hate in a movie more than empty spectacle. The sound was also distracting with its cartoony Foley sounds. Another verisimilitude breaker. By the end of the movie, there was no verisimilitude left.

I'm sorry to all you Repo fans, but the movie does need defending. It's a B movie that embraces what it is and doesn't apologize for it. That's both its biggest strength and its biggest weakness. It pretends not to take itself seriously, but it actually does. It doesn't push hard enough in either direction to have gesamtkunstwerk, and that's its core problem.

 

[Aptspire]

And MovieBob kicks himself for not putting this one into Schlocktober.

Actually, one of the rare times I felt Bob just went 'full-on douche'.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/escape-to-the-movies/1556-Hot-Tub-Time-Machine

 

[igor2201]

You know Jim, the actor for your favorite character in this movie is in fact a famous singer in his own right.

from IMDB: Nivek Ogre ... Pavi Largo (as Ogre)

Nivek Ogre has been making music in the industrial scene since the 80's as a founding member of the band Skinny Puppy.

(Even South Park knows who Skinny Puppy is)

He has also done work with many other famous bands such as KMFDM, who kicked tracks to both "Mortal Kombat" flicks, and Ministry. He even composed 2 tracks for "Descent II" the video game. He also plays "The Twin" in "The Devil's Carnival." Just a little sad that not a single person here either recognized the name or if they did, didn't bother to point that out.
(I was so sad I opened a account just to point this out)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nivek_Ogre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skinny_Puppy

" to industrial metal stars Nine Inch Nails, who opened for Skinny Puppy for a short time on their 1988 North American tour. Trent Reznor also acknowledged that Skinny Puppy's "Dig It" inspired the very first Nine Inch Nails track written that became the first hit song, "Down in It"."

In the end this is all just more reasons to love this movie.

If your intrested in him here is a pretty good recent song he did as Skinny Puppy.


Break Dancing Goths

Priceless

 

[jimClassic]

I love Repo! This movie should have gotten more credit. Excellent review!

 

[deth2munkies]

Rewatched it on Amazon Prime, free over there

My main complaint about the movie is that it insists on using the word "genetic" without the slightest idea what it means.

This and the comic book flashbacks being pointless* and immersion-breaking are the 2 big problems I had with the movie.

*

Spoiler

Biggest example: Rotti's backstory reveals he killed Marni, only new information, then 2 lines of song after the flashback, he tells us that...why did I watch that again?

 

[Lizmichi]

I'll just put this video [http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/teamt/paw/music-movies/29909-repo-the-genetic-opera] here. Also, I love how it's not the classic idea of what an opera is. Opera is all about story telling through song with strong characters; Rent is an opera.