Movie Defense Force: Showgirls

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rayen020

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keideki said:
I usually can agree with Jim when it comes to these MDF videos, but this one was really just stretching it. The only way to make the movie worthwhile is to tie it into two unrelated universes?
I think jim made a pretty convinceing argument that these were not unrelated universes.
 

Matthewmagic

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Well then. I have never seen show girls, saved by the bell, or twin peaks. So I guess this has nothing for me.
 

mentalmike

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Even the great Jim Sterling in my opinion can't defend showgirls, even if taken as an unintentional comedy.

That said you've managed to do something even more amazing with this video and that is to give showgirls a reason to exist! Saved By the Bell and Twin Peaks canon, bloody genius, I salute you.
 

Jezzascmezza

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Haha, I might actually watch this now, if it's anywhere near as hilarious as The Room.
Also kinda disappointed that there wasn't any uncensored boobs in this video, seeing as there was age verification needed at the start, but oh well, you can't win 'em all.
 

Lincoln Thurber

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I like the movie even a bit more than Jim does. The story is weak in spots, but you can see what they are trying to get across. Overall there are worse films with worse constructed stories and worse acting. The movies is lurid and weird, but that not a bad thing.
 

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This is the problem Jim... I never watched Twin Peaks or Saved by the Bell, so I'm honestly not sure if you're a 100% serious on this or not. On the PLUS SIDE I don't have to care. Never cared much for either Showgirls or Elizabeth Berkley. I'm sorry to say Jim... still not going to. I guess it's the difference between a person who likes romantic comedies and someone who likes action movies. I'm sure Showgirls is a great movie of... some sort that some sort of person enjoys, you obviously on that list. Not for me unfortunately. Great show though! Mad funny and somewhat insane. Well done!
 

Gottesstrafe

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I'm guessing with Kyle MacLachlan's character, the coffee isn't the only thing he has to worry about tasting like fish.


When my friends and I had watched the movie after hearing that Jessie from Saved by the Bell was in it, we had decided in advance that we'd picture it as an unofficial sequel to the show and consequently enjoyed the hell out of it. The Twin Peaks tie in is a good idea though, can't believe that passed over our heads that first time. Shame they hadn't gone full tilt with the movie and cast the dancing dwarf in red as the stage director or strip club owner or something.

 

Triaed

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Argh, I disagree with the episode.

When the series first started I challenged Jim to do Twilight, to see if there was any redeeming feature in it. I was squashed in the forum and told that the series was to actually "rescue" good flms (or at least films that had good in them) from the bad rap that they have had for years.

Even Jim made fun at Showgirls. This episode turned into the "Hour of Love" where he is forced to find some good qualities in isolation of the whole movie. Sorry, but saying it is funny to watch does not cut it. If this is the case, then Twilight is in the running again. Yes, it is an awful movie based on awful books, but it has good photography, the location scouting was awesome, I am sure it must have good sound engineering... and yes, Twilight is fun to watch if only to get more material to continue the internet memes.

C'mon, do a real defence instead of cherry-picking
 

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As a soft porn parody that takes itself seriously? What's not to like? I double dare you to compare it to Demi Moore's "Striptease". Yeah... thought so. Showgirls is really fun to watch, a Total Recall but with more tits. I've seen many many Oscar movies which bored me to tears. Call me a hipster, but I've really enjoyed a lot of movies on the "Worst ever" list. Plan 9 and Hercules (1983) are so fun to watch that they might as well be on the "best ever" list instead.
 

CroutonsOfDeath

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Hahahaha, oh wow. That was one of the funniest vids I've seen today. I love you, Sterling! My wife was worried that the only reason this film could be defended was an immature declaration of "ITS GOT TIIIITS." To be fair, most of the people I've heard defend it are 13 year old boys. Buuuuut you have a point, and she actually agrees with you. I haven't seen it meself but maybe it'll work great for our movie riff night.
 

DiMono

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For the record, if you watch this movie at 2am when brutally tired, it's actually a really good movie. Because you're too sleepy and stupid to know better.
 

Mr C

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That was the best one yet, genuine lol.

I wondered what he was going to say as I actually enjoy Alien 3 and Friday the 13th, but think Show Girls is an awful sack of shit. Good one Jim.
 

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Sign 1. Yathzee likes nintendo game
Sign 2. Moviebob likes Nichael Bay fil.
Sign 3. Jimquisiting that tries to tell us a 2 year todler graphic novel is the best game to come out.
Sign 4. Showgirls is made by David Lynch.

Beware escapists, the apocalypse is coming this week. Capcha told me "seven signs", we already got 4, run for your lives, run now.

OlasDAlmighty said:
Mildly annoyed, I don't understand why we have to enter our DOB before watching some videos. I'm logged into my account which already has by birthday saved.
I asked the same question before. The staff response was that certain companies require age verification on the videos themselves and registered age does not work legally. Though that was for trailers, this however shouldnt go there? i guess in america they are still superobsessed with anything to do with strippers.
 

LordMonty

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I may not be sold but I am amused. And yes hot that lady was indeed. Keep up the good work and check back in with us around the time you get to Bay's Transformers.
 

Grabehn

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Bringing up alternate universes and mixed ones. Well, this one has convinced me at least. lol
 

Therumancer

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ron1n said:
Can remember hearing so many people talking about this as if it was some hardcore porn movie back in the dark ages (aka the time period before the internet existed)

How times have changed.

Also that last quote...ahahahaha
Well, it was mostly called sexist and a "guy movie", I don't remember anyone even suggesting it was real softcore. Pretty much a movie where the only redeeming feature was the eye candy, and a bunch of guys being able to see a girl they watched as kids (and grew up with) or drooled over as jailbait, wander around nearly naked.

This is also why it became something of a cult classic, and has been re-released in special editions with "extras" like a shot glass or whatever else. It's pretty much the movie you, as a dude, are expected to have seen, and which girls are supposed to hate.

As far as the movie itself, I'll probably get some flak for saying this, but if anything I think at it's core it suffers from being too realistic, as this kind of nonsensical banality is pretty much what you'd expect from the enviroment. The casinos that I worked for were not in Vegas, and did NOT have their own "showgirls" in their employ but DID have troupes of entertainers, dancers (ladies and chippendales both), etc... come through to put on shows. Likewise there were plenty of prostitutes around and such and well... ignoring the actual "plot" of the movie, the characterizations as far as they go aren't terrible, and to be honest if you've seen real dancers it isn't always as picture perfect as an A-list Hollywood movie, or music video shoot, and I think that's in part what they were trying to capture in making things seem a bit more spastic and less perfectly choreographed.

This doesn't change the fact that it's a terrible movie, in part because of the basic desician of "who would want to make a movie about this?" especially the way they did it. I guess what they were hoping for was a new generation version of "Flashdance" with a lot more darkness and an edgier tone, but had no idea how to pull it off.

That said, I was never a "Saved By The Bell" fan, but I did/do like "Twin Peaks" despite it's finale being a representation of pretty much everything I hate in this kind of production.

Now that it's been mentioned though, I would like to see a remake of Showgirls blending those universes, if for no other reason to explain how a certain detective resolved the whole doomed finale with The Black Lodge sufficiently to apparently get back to work. >:)

But then again, if I ever hit the jackpot I've always kind of wanted to make a sitcom about Casino Security loosely based on the truth and all of the truely F@cked up stuff that goes on, even if it's boring 99.9% of the time. I envision a TV show with a similar style of humor to "Night Court". :)
 

ReverendJ

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I like it, but Jim, man, modulate your frickin' voice. I have no problem with the style of your delivery, just back up off the damn mic. I shouldn't have to play with my volume knob to be able to hear the quotes you included from the movie without suffering ear damage from your sudden yelling reappearance on the audio track. Other than that, keep up the good work!