I recently watched some episodes from the original series, and I just wish we'd get more light-hearted and engaging Sci-Fi again these days. Everything is so dark and hasty.
Hmm, read in a couple of places that they'd confirmed. Might have misread or they might have been bullshitting - in either case, the final shot of the Japanese trailer is meant to be pretty explicit, I believe. More so than "blonde woman with bob".
Right now the best place to get movie news about this film is http://www.Trekmovie.com. That site has done interviews with Abrams and cast members in the past, in live chats, twitter, and traditional interviews for the site. If they haven't said that its Khan, then it hasn't been confirmed, because they would have jumped all over that like a fat kid at an ice cream parlor.
As for the last scene on the Japanese trailer, you have to take that with a grain of salt, especially since this is a JJ Abrams movie. This is the guy who made us worry about a smoke monster on an island (LOST) for an entire series then nothing came of it. He's also the guy who snuck the company name and logo that dug up the monster from Cloverfield on a building during the 2009 trek movies teaser trailer. This guy gets people in seats by teasing people with something, then shocking them with something entirely different.
Clankenbeard said:
I didn't see a single clip of Simon Pegg!
Oh. Okay. IMDB has him credited for this.
Trekking is better with Mr. Scott.
there were really few good ideas in voyager, one was the idea of the first temporal directive and the federation timeships used to uphold said directive, a large scale temporal clusterfuck like the first movie would have them fix it faster than you can say "live long and prosper", so this movie CAN not be if you not want to throw most continuity after ds9 session3 out of the window.
and to be honest, voyager failed in most places, but they had sometimes really good ideas that were terribly handled, while the new movies have incredible bland ideas handled really well.
i don't want a re-imagening-thingy, i want a continuation of the main universe equally well handled or better as the new movies.
also, why would khan care about pike, kirk, spock and attached superfriends? i mean from the point of the story, khan is just flying through space in a frozen state in a spaceship from the 1990's and knows noone in the 23rd century, unless they rehach the original episode but let them fuck it up somehow, this will be even more painfull to sit through than the first of the new films for someone who knows about and cares for the lore of star trek.
there were really few good ideas in voyager, one was the idea of the first temporal directive and the federation timeships used to uphold said directive, a large scale temporal clusterfuck like the first movie would have them fix it faster than you can say "live long and prosper", so this movie CAN not be if you not want to throw most continuity after ds9 session3 out of the window.
and to be honest, voyager failed in most places, but they had sometimes really good ideas that were terribly handled, while the new movies have incredible bland ideas handled really well.
i don't want a re-imagening-thingy, i want a continuation of the main universe equally well handled or better as the new movies.
also, why would khan care about pike, kirk, spock and attached superfriends? i mean from the point of the story, khan is just flying through space in a frozen state in a spaceship from the 1990's and knows noone in the 23rd century, unless they rehach the original episode but let them fuck it up somehow, this will be even more painfull to sit through than the first of the new films for someone who knows about and cares for the lore of star trek.
No alterations to the original timeline took place, it's a separate timeline. Also, there's no proof this is Khan. Also there's no reason to think that whoever this is intends to inflict his vengeance upon Kirk in particular, it's possible he's feeling vengeful towards Humanity or against the Federation.
So who was supposed to have returned? And why can't I bring myself to get excited over this? Also I think Gene Rodenberry is spinning in his grave right now.
So who was supposed to have returned? And why can't I bring myself to get excited over this? Also I think Gene Rodenberry is spinning in his grave right now.
In the Japanese trailer, those few extra seconds confirm what we know (spoiler warning)
Spock will sacrifice himself again in a radiation chamber. Plus, Kirk will again use the "vertical tactic" by hiding the Enterprise in a bloody ocean this time, instead of the nebula.
So this is more of a remake of the second original film, and I'm guessing that they'll also fit in the story of Khan, probably in the first 20 minutes of the movie.
However, just from watching the trailer, I'm very disappointed, and here's why. Star Trek was always more about pushing the borders of science and metaphysics than about personal stories. And it was about SPACE and how our limited race would deal in extreme situations. Sure, there was always the "peaceful utopia, no money, no wars" background but the human nature was always present, with strengths and weaknesses alike. Maybe this is why I loved Voyager so much, while many others hate it. And let's face it, Star Trek has always relied on great actors with "boring" personas (Kirk not included). Just by looking at the trailer, I get the impression that I'm watching a Transformers/Twilight/Avengers/Batman movie set in New York, not something that has anything to do with SPAAAACE!!!
Star Trek does not fit the action blockbuster scene. It doesn't need to. The other Star Trek movies worked because you had entire series behind them. The original Wrath of Khan had the best design of any Star Trek set. I saw it after watching all the other series and was blown away by how awesome it looked, uniforms, bridges and ships in all. I still think that technology in 400 years should look like that (not the displays though. We all still laugh when we see the old tube with static images on them). The new one? Meh... looks like a transparent IPhone with flashlight pointing at your eyes.
I could ramble on about how awesome the Star Trek series have been for me or why. Even before the first remake I was well aware that any reboot would have a HARD time pleasing the fans. After all, Patrick Stewart... But they took it in the extreme opposite direction, which was understandable for the first movie (try to get more new fans in the cinemas). But now? We're Trekies, we don't need people jumping off cliffs and punching eachother in the trailer.
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