At least they've got that one guy.Zhukov said:
You know, that one dude, name rhymes with Nahtzee.
MovieBob leaving The Escapist
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You know, that one dude, name rhymes with Nahtzee.
I dont know... in one of his tweets bob let shine through that he secretly enjoys all the "hate" that the escapist "apparantly" faces for letting him go but doesnt want the escapist to die off because there are still some people left that he likes. Because apparantly a couple of tweets in his hugbox echochamber where patting him on the back an announcing they would boycott the escapist now or such nonsense.Vault101 said:
That tells me that there was a conflict there when they let him go, atleast with the decision makers. It wasnt as clear cut as "we cant pay you no more hence you gotta go im afraid" as both sides want us to believe or there wouldnt be that hint of bitterness, and glee about flack the escapist gets from his fans for firing him.
Don't worry guys, Bob joined Patreon!
This is a new development that is totally shocking, which no one could possibly have anticipated.
This is a new development that is totally shocking, which no one could possibly have anticipated.
Man, that Patreon video is depressing. Like legitimately depressing. He literally has nothing else in his life other than making videos.
I feel bad now.
I feel bad now.
Honestly, I do -- but as the next step in "echo chamber culture" evolution. Media outlets tailored exactly to your whacko sensibilities not enough? well screw them, just directly fund the people who tell you exactly what you want to hear, exactly the ways you want to hear it, why, when, and how.wizzy555 said:
Eacaraxe said:
Especially considering Bob's twitter ramblings. He doesn't have to meet any corporate standards and practices for decency. He can say whatever the hell he wants. Sometimes that's great. But for extremists like Bob. That's toxic,
True but:Lono Shrugged said:
a) he isn't being funded for his twitter account (at least not officially), his movie reviews show some merit and big picture is sometimes interesting as long as he excludes his snide jibes at his enemies.
b) it's not all that different from just paypal donations. I once donated to Bob's paypal before he went off the rails.
I wonder if Moviebob's loss was part of the new Editor-in-chief wanting to focus just on games. Game Theory fulfills a similar niche to Bob's The Big Picture (albeit, I think Bob does it better), while focusing purely on games. It could have been the idea that Bob didn't want to lose Big Picture and stay, while the Escapist only wanted Escape to the Movies, if anything.
However, it still surprises me, as Big Picture and Escape were doing very well view wise, so it doesn't make much sense to me to cut it off, unless there's a major restructuring coming soon.
Time to binge watch all of Bob's Picture episodes I've been missing, I guess. I'll also miss his movie reviews on here - they didn't always line up with my opinion, but they were usually entertaining.
I'm curious as to what decision led to his firing, but we'll never find out.
After Jim and MovieBob, the only weekly things I keep up with are ZP, Critical Miss and Experience Points. I've been meaning to watch Feed Dump/LRR/No Right Answer, but just don't. I'll keep coming here for news, but there's a lot of other places I go to. The Escapist needs quality side content badly, and I'm not sure if narrowing the focus helps that. I already miss the Comics, tabletop, and Movie podcasts. I never understood why Science got it's own corner, but I thought the Escapist was "the mouthpiece of the geek generation" (or something like that), and there's more to the subculture than just video games.
However, it still surprises me, as Big Picture and Escape were doing very well view wise, so it doesn't make much sense to me to cut it off, unless there's a major restructuring coming soon.
Time to binge watch all of Bob's Picture episodes I've been missing, I guess. I'll also miss his movie reviews on here - they didn't always line up with my opinion, but they were usually entertaining.
I'm curious as to what decision led to his firing, but we'll never find out.
After Jim and MovieBob, the only weekly things I keep up with are ZP, Critical Miss and Experience Points. I've been meaning to watch Feed Dump/LRR/No Right Answer, but just don't. I'll keep coming here for news, but there's a lot of other places I go to. The Escapist needs quality side content badly, and I'm not sure if narrowing the focus helps that. I already miss the Comics, tabletop, and Movie podcasts. I never understood why Science got it's own corner, but I thought the Escapist was "the mouthpiece of the geek generation" (or something like that), and there's more to the subculture than just video games.
LoadingReadyRun the company stopped making Commodore Hustle and LoadingReadyRun the show at the end of last year. They had a big Kickstarter to fund their last season, but said that they couldn't keep up that show due to other projects. However, they do still put out a bunch of other shows, including Crapshots (basically really short skits) several times a week on their website.Bat Vader said:
If this were the case, he could have moved that content to Screen Junkies which is another Defy Media property.F-I-D-O said:
Jesus Christ, that's a bit extreme don't you think? It's really no different than the donation based systems the internet has been using for ... a long-ass time.Eacaraxe said:
I'm excited to see if we have anyone to take his place. To be honest, the internet has no shortage of the sort of people that review movies this way. I hope the escapist finds a good reviewer.
Bob was always a mixed bag for me. He did a lot of good work but was often somewhat rude elsewhere and incidentally dabbled in an inflammatory manner that was levied against a non-trivial number of Escapist's userbase (including making entire politically fueled videos to defend people that had nothing to do with his line of work, like the time he decided to decry the comparison of the claim that video games make you X with Jack Thompson's claims that video games made people violent). He had a few agendas that I was getting really tired of hearing nearly every time.
That being said, I'm not happy to see him go. I just hope his work gets a legitimate replacement because Bob was still entertaining, agendas and all.
Bob getting let go would be due to a few reasons but not some sort of gaming focus. I suspect it was his overt political stances that really muddied relationships with gamers. But it could have also been regarding pay.
Bob was always a mixed bag for me. He did a lot of good work but was often somewhat rude elsewhere and incidentally dabbled in an inflammatory manner that was levied against a non-trivial number of Escapist's userbase (including making entire politically fueled videos to defend people that had nothing to do with his line of work, like the time he decided to decry the comparison of the claim that video games make you X with Jack Thompson's claims that video games made people violent). He had a few agendas that I was getting really tired of hearing nearly every time.
That being said, I'm not happy to see him go. I just hope his work gets a legitimate replacement because Bob was still entertaining, agendas and all.
I think that focus was intended to side step the politicization of gaming news rather than not dealing on other things like tech, comedy, and movies.F-I-D-O said:
Bob getting let go would be due to a few reasons but not some sort of gaming focus. I suspect it was his overt political stances that really muddied relationships with gamers. But it could have also been regarding pay.
Indeed, it isn't -- of course, echo chamber culture is nothing new either.SomeGuyOnHisComputer said:
wizzy555 said:
That's exactly my point, his twitter account is private and not subject to any oversight. His videos always had to meet escapist guidelines. Now that he is unfettered by any of those restrictions he can do and say whatever he wants in his videos. For even minded people thats fine. But I am expecting even more snark and jibes without the editorial team or quality control.
For example, I work at an online video production house as a content director and if Bob worked for me he would never in a million years be allowed put up such a low production quality video as his patreon. It would actively damage the company. It's ugly, sounds like garbage, overlong, meandering and I seriously wanted to turn it off. He rushed a barely watchable painfully awkward video online asking for donations. Donations for WHAT? A new camera? training? A journalist's ID? I sometimes have to upload rushed videos in the space of hours, but they never look and sound as atrocious as his. He seems to have no understanding of the technical requirements of producing online video and this video is just a shallow grab for quick cash while he is still todays news. I know he made excuses, but in video excuses are like assholes, everybody's got one.
Nice tinfoil hat you got there pal. If the opinion is presented in an entertaining fashion then the opinion itself can almost become irrelevant (there are of course exceptions to this). And people will always want their own opinions validated, but I doubt most will bother to pay for it.Eacaraxe said:
Isn't it a little bit pathetic that, for all his entitlement and self-proclaimed righteousness, all that Bob had going for him was a freelance gig that could end suddenly and unceremoniously just like that? Patreon is without a doubt a sound vehicle to help kickstart independent projects and all that. But to have "The Movie Bob" flee like that and make such a desperate, half-hearted attempt to grab some cash... I dunno. I think the guy loses credibility like that, making vague promises while dissing his former employers in such an immature way.
Also, correct me if I'm wrong but I get the impression Bob doesn't like Yahtzee very much? Every time he brings up "the amazing content producers of The Escapist" he mentions everybody but Yahtzee.
Also, correct me if I'm wrong but I get the impression Bob doesn't like Yahtzee very much? Every time he brings up "the amazing content producers of The Escapist" he mentions everybody but Yahtzee.
Most of us only have a single job that could technically end at any moment.Johnny Novgorod said:
It's a particularly hard job for movie reviewers. The market is proliferated by all manner of youtube journalists. Bob was really good at it, but it's hard to make it in that kind of market.
Not that I'm defending him. I have been quite aggravated by him. But I don't wish him any personal harm and hope he lands on his feet in front of an audience that will appreciate him more. He's wonderful in some areas that I'm going to really miss.