Movies saying that Atheism is true.

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TonyVonTonyus

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Not really much to go on here. Making a movie about believing in nothing is kinda like making a war movie where they debate the moral choice of going to war and then try to justify their actions and then it ends saying "no, we probably shouldn't". Not exactly epic material there. With movies saying theirs a god and devil theirs a clearly defined evil and good side who do battle.
 
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TStormer said:
Any film which does not mention religion is atheist.

Atheism is the standard setting and religion is a claim away from it. If it does not say otherwise it is atheist.
I don't think this is what the OP is going for. Plenty of movies don't address theism or spirituality at all, but those that do tend to fall into specific patterns:

1) The basic spiritual approach: Good guys are challenged but ultimately win. Bad guys have their early triumphs but ultimately find their comeuppance. Spiritually correct stratagems (essentially zany schemes dependent on divine providence) are more likely to be successful than pragmatic ones, even though the latter ones have the probabilistic advantage. In short, the screenwriter is a very clear, intervening god.

2) God is real (though often more omnibenevolent than as portrayed in the bible) and intervenes in not-so-mysterious ways (usually overly contrived coincidences) to help the protagonist and thwart the antagonist. Especially if doing so helps the former restore faith in God. The afterlife, if it is portrayed at all, is usually done so in vague, broad strokes. Heaven and Hell each are often implied, though not necessarily as per Christian myth.

3) Movie atheists are either fallen theists who had succumbed to the despair of some tragedy (see Signs) or are there to be taught to have faith in some ephemeral higher power (as per Contact, which likely has zombie-Carl Sagan spasming in his tomb), but they seldom are aloud to exist as they are in their own right.

4) The mythological approach: Gods are real as per a given mythology, whether historical (e.g. Hellenistic) or fictional (Lovecraftian). Sometimes the mythology gets hijacked by Christianity, as per Disney's Hercules and Percy Jackson & the Olympians: The Lightning Thief (The book version of Percy Jackson was by far truer to the original Olympians.)

5) The horror approach: God is real, but the spiritual realm is far more twisted than is portrayed in the bible. The Prophecy series seemed to play with this. Anything based on the Lovecraft mythology will fall into this, since the outer gods and their terrible truth are not very nice to behold.

6) Documentaries shouldn't be included since they are going to have a leaning usually on the side of those doing the documentary. They're also non-fiction (bias notwithstanding) meaning they'll portray how things are, not things that tell an effective story.

bificommander said:
The problem with making an 'atheist story' is the same reason why I don't buy into the New Atheist idea that God can be disproven: It is physically impossible....
As a new atheist, I have to question where this idea comes from that we would believe possible or endeavor to prove God's nonexistence.

I will grant that New Atheists believe that information derived from sacred texts should be challenged by society exactly the same way we would challenge any other assertion (news: we in western civilizations usually don't). Also, if someone says a given fact indicates God exists (or more often, that a specific god exists) that we should challenge such a notion.

But otherwise, no, we're not on any kind of mission to disprove God. More often, we invite people to question sacred texts such as the bible, especially since a) some scientific assertions in the bible (such as geocentricism) are demonstrably false, and b) some moral assertions in the bible (such as institutionalized slavery) are demonstrably inhumane. That's all.

Getting back to the original topic I would note that Angels and Demons is pleasantly Atheist friendly. The protagonist is an academic and coincidentally atheist and never has to get in touch with his inner faith to progress. The Roman Catholic Church is portrayed both as a source of inspiration and as a political institution. The big heartwarming moment doesn't rely on a miracle, nor does the solution to the problem. It's a fun romp (though also not to be taken too seriously). PS: Don't read the book, of which the movie was a nicely pragmatic adaptation.

Kingdom of Heaven as quantumsoul mentioned and Troy are both period movies (and epics, though the war in Troy is obviously shortened to less than a year). In both, the characters have belief systems appropriate to their eras, though both feature (not entirely appropriate) moments of apostasy (though I can see Achilles openly invite the gods to bring it and defy them when they don't.) Both are resolved without miracles or even coincidences, and Troy was intentionally meant to be a naturalistic interpretation of the Iliad. Gladiator is similar, though it is clear that characters carry a strong (period appropriate) faith and spirituality, though again, nothing is contrived by the heavens.

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TonyCapa said:
Not really much to go on here. Making a movie about believing in nothing is kinda like making a war movie where they debate the moral choice of going to war and then try to justify their actions and then it ends saying "no, we probably shouldn't".
Thirteen Days

About the Cuban Missle Crisis, and an apt political thriller.

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IamQ said:
I just thought of something. There have been several films saying that god and the devil, heaven and hell exist, and no one has batted an eye.

But I wondered, have there been any movies saying that atheism is right? That there are no gods or anything supernatural?

Maybe there have, and I just haven't seen them. If that's the case, then please enlighten me.
Oh, there are numerous. Because a world where atheism is universally accepted as true functions exactly like ours, but without the religious nutjobs. A world where atheism is simply true doesn't even have that distinction. Because the only fields where religions aren't testably false are fields that aren't testable and have no actual effect on day to day life.
 
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The only remotely interesting story idea I can come up with for an "aetheist" film would be along the lines of a challenge to the church/other-religious-institution/world-order in the form of proof that there is no God, or that they're "wrong" and thus the world is shaken to its core, and we're watching the results of this information coming to light. Otherwise, any film would just be a whole lot of nothing and uninteresting to watch.

Films in which there are angels, Heaven, Hell and what have you have always given it a fantastic slant and any viewer would need to suspend disbelief to watch it as with any other film, whether they were religious or not. I can't imagine anyone watching Constantine, End of Days, Legion or The Exorcist and thinking that they were true reflections of the world or their own faith!
 

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Falseprophet said:
Custard_Angel said:
Watchmen is quite atheist.

The movie not so much, but the comic is. Especially chapter 6 where Rorschach is interrogated.

"This rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It's us. Only us."

"We are alone. There is nothing else."
Not sure I agree. I'd say Dr. Manhattan basically becomes God by the end of the series.
"I don't think there is a God, and if there is, I'm nothing like him."
-Dr Manhattan
 

psychodynamica

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Christianity movies sell best to americans, americans make almost all the movies (The ones that matter in the west anyway), alot of americans are christians. Welcome to Capitalism. A film that actually says 'There is no God' won't really make the same impact, To simply deny a widely held belief isn't the same as asserting the dominance of said belief on the percieved 'minority'.
 

FrankatronX

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Here's the quick list:

Aliens, Field of Dreams, Blade Runner, Terminator, Robocop, Pinochio, Southland Tales, Superman, Drop Dead Fred, X-Men and more movies than I can probably ever research are set in worlds where there is clearly no definable God, Devil, Heaven or Hell.