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Vigormortis said:
Say what you will about Joseph Kosinski's directorial skills in terms of actor directing, but damned if one can't deny the man has an eye for set design, world building, cinematography, and general aesthetics.

Tron Legacy was a hint at this. Oblivion cemented it as fact.

As an aside: How psyched are you that Kosinski and team are moving forward with the next Tron film?
Agreed, with an addition: even the commercials he's directed are damn good. He won awards for this one:


As for the next Tron film, you bet your ass I'm psyched. That setting is one that's hard to get sick of, and if they bring back Daft Punk and Joseph Trapanese for the score, I'll at least be satisfied there.
 

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The Dark Knight Rises. Everybody keeps treating it like the idiot brother of an otherwise terrific series. Like it was a big disappointment. It wasn't to me. Sure enough, I found myself not "liking it as much" at the beginning. But over time it's grown on me. I quote the characters. I hum the music. I remember the scenes. I wanna see it again. As an epic, sweeping crime drama it was great.
'Everybody' must be a relative term, because we in Pittsburgh loved that movie. ('Course, they used our city and our football team, but it was also fecking GOOD.)

Ahh, there's too many movies to think of...

Clue will never be bad, or its cousin known as Murder By Death.

Most Mel Brooks movies will never be bad.

Frankly, alot of comedies by the old masters will never die.

Battleship may be varying mileage to other people, but I found it entertaining. It's hard to make a movie out of a boardgame, and Clue did it well because it's character-driven. Battleship has no characters in the game to draw upon. So frankly, for having nothing to work with but a hunk of plastic and electonics (and like 300 little pegs plus the ships), I call it good.

Outpost... Middle of nowhere off-limits zone, underground German lab, experimental equipment, and...undead Nazi soldier phantoms. I recommend this one to horror fans.

Tron will never die, nor Legacy.

Not to mention Lord of the Rings. That's just epic tale history, man.
 

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Movies that I like that others tend not to like:

Star Wars: The Phantom Menace: I'm from the prequel generation, and I think many others like me who are now in their 20's are voicing their admiration for the prequels. I saw it when I was a kid and it had a huge influence on how I watch movies. Watching it as an adult I admit the writing is a let-down, the acting is often stiff and the entire tale lacks the gravity of the original trilogy, but I freaking LOVE how they fleshed out the Jedi Order, the lightsaber duel with Obi vs. Maul (one of the best fight scenes ever filmed IMHO), and the brilliance of the sound design, costuming and art direction. The makers of the prequels openly admit that George was making the movies for the kids, and I can't really overstate how much those movies fed my imagination while growing up.

Moulin Rouge: I think the common perception of this movie is that it's a chick flick with contemporary music to appeal to younger audiences. However, watch some interviews with Baz Luhrmann (the director) and you'll quickly find out how wrong that is. It did for me exactly what he intended... It was a movie which used present-day music to connect you with the (what was then perceived as) debauchery, seediness and deadly allure of the turn-of-the-century Paris underworld and Bohemian Revolution. The entire thing is NUTS, I have no idea how he convinced 20th Century Fox to give him the money to make it, but it just WORKS. It's one of the most exciting, original and moving movies I've seen.

The Great Gatsby: Maybe I'm just a sucker for Baz Luhrmann, but I think the extravagant party scenes, amazing performances from Leo, Carey and Elizabeth, and general quality make this a great movie. I don't think many directors can manipulate the emotions of longing, nostalgia, and intoxication like Baz. He really knows how to make the past come alive. As always his music has a deeper subtext, in his words, putting jazz in there would be "quaint" today so he used hip-hop, which is the new African-American music which AGAIN is criticized as devoid of artistic merit and a bad influence on our children.

Watchmen: I don't understand how people think this movie is bad. It's amazing. Zach Snyder did the best job he possibly could have in converting a super-dense graphic novel into 2 hours of film, and everything he changed, I feel was for the best (I have read the graphic novel). Yes, even the ending. I love Alan Moore but no-one is infallible, and the original ending was unfilmable anyway. The performances are AMAZING, the music is PERFECT, the art direction is FANTASTIC. Dr. Manhattan and Rorschach in particular were completely realized, straight from the panels of the novel. Perhaps the most elegant streamlining of an existing work I've ever seen on film. I find myself agreeing with every change made. Don't know why so many people weren't pleased.
 

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Evangelion 3.0. I appreciate it for what it is, an elaborate 92 minute music video for Shiro Sagisu's amazing score.

Salus said:
+1 on Watchmen. Got me into classical and minimalist music, true story.
 

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No one will be able to convince me that any film I enjoy is bad, the fact that I like it is what makes it good... If it were truly BAD then I wouldn't like it, would I?

Anyway for specifics I'll give another vote for Sucker Punch and also Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, I honestly can't understand any of the criticism that movie got and still gets. It was awesome.
 

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2012 Wont Happen said:
A lot of people have claimed Sucker Punch sucks to me. Those people are wrong, they have been wrong, and they will always be wrong.
If that's wrong, I don't wanna be right. :p

OT: Ponyo

This movie seems universally despised among anime fans, and I can never quite understand why. Whether it's its kiddy nature or the fact that those Jonas and Cyrus kids do the voices in the dub, which I never watched anyway, I don't know. The musical score alone makes it impossible for this movie to be bad.
 

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gonna dangle a hook and see if anyone bites but i seriously doubt it.

battlefield earth: i seriously don't get the hate on this movie. it's a decent action movie with a half decent story some 'splosions and a happy ending. it might not be Shakespeare but it's far from unwatchable.
 

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an annoyed writer said:
Agreed, with an addition: even the commercials he's directed are damn good. He won awards for this one:


As for the next Tron film, you bet your ass I'm psyched. That setting is one that's hard to get sick of, and if they bring back Daft Punk and Joseph Trapanese for the score, I'll at least be satisfied there.
I had heard that they are attempting to bring Daft Punk back, but it's up in the air at the moment as to whether they'll actually do it.

However, Kosinski has noted that Daft Punk had composed far more songs than had made it into the film. So, worse comes to worse, they still have possibly dozens of tracks to pull from for the next films soundtrack.
 

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King Billi said:
No one will be able to convince me that any film I enjoy is bad, the fact that I like it is what makes it good... If it were truly BAD then I wouldn't like it, would I?
Not necessarily.

I've never understood why so many people find it hard to believe that they may like something bad. Or, conversely, dislike something good.

It's okay to like things that are objectively "bad". It's okay to dislike things that are objectively "good". There are plenty of, say, bad films that I like. Yet, I'll openly admit they are bad.

Take Army of Darkness, for example. It is objectively, in almost every way, a bad film. It's simply awful. Even so, I love it. In fact, it may be because of it's bad quality and cheesiness that I enjoy it so.

On the other hand, there's something like The Godfather. Objectively speaking, it's an immaculately crafted film. Expertly shot, written, acted, and directed. But, for the life of me, I can never get into it like many do. It's just not for me.

What I'm getting at is, one's personal opinion on a particular piece of media doesn't determine whether that thing is objectively good or bad. However, it doesn't matter. The only thing that is important is whether, to you, the thing is enjoyable.
 

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Also gonna go with Sucker Punch. Bob's review might have influenced this decision but after watching it a few times I still enjoy it and nothing anybody says will change that.

Now there are some movies that you just can't convince me are good. The Eragon movie adaption was complete and utter garbage, but I think most people agree with that.
 

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Yah! Time to tell everyone why they're wrong :D

The Boondock Saints 2: This isn't quite a mass-hated movie but a lot of fans of the original hated it. A very fun and stylistic movie that I loved.

Matrix Trilogy: Like many, I was confused about what the hell happened to The Matrix. Then, a few years ago, I watched all three in a row on a day. A LOT of what was confusing and didn't make sense became clear once I saw them for the second time in a row.

Battleship [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.400271-Battleship-Popcorn-flick-or-brilliant-satire#16444032]: ...alright, not really but only kind of just so I can break out my conspiracy theory again :D I didn't hate it so I'm counting it dang it!

Sucker Punch: That additional scene added to the DVD/Blu-Ray I think completely changes the movie. Unfortunately, most people who saw the movie saw it in theater (the scene was not included to keep the movie from having a R rated...something I STILL don't understand since there is nothing naughty about the scene)

...did people hate Scott Pilgrim Versus the World? It doesn't have a great imdb/metacritic score so I'll include it because it's one of my favorite movies ever. Hilarious and incredibly entertaining.


I'm among the fans of the first Boondock Saints movie that hates the abomination that is passed off as Boondock Saints 2. Think I bought it, watched it once, then snapped the disc in half, and burned it.

I'll agree Sucker Punch was pretty enjoyable for me though. I don't know why other people can't enjoy it, but for me, it's better than alot of other movies that people love (any Transformer movie past the first is a good example.)
 

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Tremors 3. I've seen quite a bit of hate directed towards this movie, and I honestly don't get it. I mean, sure, the CGI is legitimately awful, but it's not a deal-breaker for me, and as far as I'm concerned there's enough Burt Gummer in this one to more than make up for it. Just that scene of Burt getting cut out of a graboid's belly alone should be worth sitting through a little made-for-Syfy level CGI.
 

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Airheads, what's not to love about Brendan Fraser, Steve Buscemi and Adam Sandler as three loser rock musicians in a band called The Lone Rangers?

A lot apparently. Don't give a shit, its too silly to hate. Plus it has Chris Farley in as well as a cameo from the legend that is Lemmy. Always a plus in my book.
 

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Back to the Future trilogy.

I love me some Mcfly.

I seriously must just watch the trilogy once a year out of pure enjoyment.
 

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I still enjoy the first two live-action Ninja Turtles movies (The first moreso, but the second one's still enjoyable)

Also, how has Who Framed Roger Rabbit not listed yet?
 

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I will always like Demolition Man. It's got Wesley Snipes in the future.
Wesley Snipes.
In the future.
 

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I like Spiderman 3, it's the best in Raimi's series in my opinion.
Aside from Pearl Harbor and Transformers 2, I like all of Michael Bay's movies. After he made Transofmers 2, suddenly he became the Antichrist and I don't really understand why.
Doom is pretty good. It doesn't follow the plot of the game but Doom's plot is about as important as a porn star's IQ.
Die Hard 4.0 may not follow the spirit of the previous Die Hard movies but it's still really entertaining.
The prequel to the remake of The Thing was decent.
Halloween 3: Season of the Witch - people hat it mainly because there's no Jason Vorhees in it but I think it's the best one.
Blair Witch 2: The Book of Shadows. I really dislike the first one (the supposed "good one") and like the hated sequel.
I've seen 4 movies by Uwe Boll. I disliked 2 (Alone in the Dark, House of the Dead) and liked the other 2 (Postal, Rampage).

Those are the ones that come to mind right now but there's a lot more where that came from.
 

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2012 (What all world-disaster type movies should be...why be serious and depressing when it can be epic and fun!)

Starship Troopers (anyone who tries to convince me it's bad "doesn't understand it" haha)

Prometheus (I thought it was a decent movie, not perfect but certainly not as bad as everyone makes it out to be)

The Fifth Element (one of THE best sci-fi movies)

Die Hard (Even though everyone likes it...it is action movie perfection)

Die Hard 4.0 (It may lack the violence/swearing but it is still a 'Die Hard' movie...the same cannot be said for the fifth one which was a complete pile of shit)

Can't think of much else...there's HEAPS of movies my friends like that I don't and HEAPS MORE movies that I like but they hate. Maybe I just have a weird taste in movies.