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Not a movie, but the anime Monster. The concept is so bloody interesting, yet the execution is so hokey.
Its a 74 episode anime?

By what episode did it lost its way in your opinion?
I don't think it lost its way, I think it never really found its footing. The problem I had with it was that it's a very mature story, but the dialoge comes across almost like it's for children. I think I got to about episode 11 or 12, it's been a long time.
I can appreciate that. There was something kind of corny about its whole delivery of Dr Tenma being this faultless, saint on earth; Jean Valjean, if Jean Valjean was also a super dooper doctor. Watching people constantly praise how great he is also accidentally reminded me a lot about Dark Place.


I think the problem is that so few anime try to go the sober, sensible and downplayed route that they struggle to pull it off. It often can easily look like cheesy melodrama instead.
 

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Texnolyze. I really like the creators. Their the same team that made one of my favorite anime series, Serial Experiments Lain. But it's just so boring. The pacing is awful, and nothing seems to happen. The characters are dull. I can't follow the story. The visuals are all brown and grey. I hear that the second half of the series is amazing, but my eyes glaze over and I never make it that far. It feels like is twice as long as it needs to be. One day I would like to finish it, but damn.
I don't think I've ever been impressed with a story as much as Texhnolyze. It's a slow burn for sure and it's contemplative nature don't take you by the hand for an exciting ride but it's social commentaries and character studies are just so damn interesting. It really plunges the depths of the human condition and it's absolutely harrowing. No story ever really fazes me but Texhnolyze..jeesh. Maybe you have to be a bit older to really appreciate this show. You really have to adjust your mindset to fully comprehend it's more abstract form of storytelling.

Anyways my personal pick would be Full Metal Alchemist(the second series I guess it is). Really enjoyed it but..just too many episodes. Another one would be Westworld. Wanted to like it but just can't get into it for some reason.
It's been a long time since I tried to see it. I saw Lain when I was still in highschool, so it would be around that time. I remember hating Neon Genesis back then too, but I rewatched it about a year ago and it's my favorite story of all time now. Maybe I'll give texnolyze another shot around Christmas, when I have more time.
 

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Fox12 said:
It's been a long time since I tried to see it. I saw Lain when I was still in highschool, so it would be around that time. I remember hating Neon Genesis back then too, but I rewatched it about a year ago and it's my favorite story of all time now. Maybe I'll give texnolyze another shot around Christmas, when I have more time.
Yeah, thing is the story doesn't really take off till episode 6 or 7 or so. The first episodes set the stage but are only validated in retrospect during the later episodes. Texhnolyze follows this peculiar structure in which every episode seems really deliberately planned but often only makes sense once you've seen the entire show.

My advice would actually be to not really 'binge' on it and not expect to be immediately engaged or excited. Give it time to sink in. :p
 

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Superman vs Batman vs Rotten Tomato:
I REALLY wanted to enjoy it.
...martha
But there was just something.
...martha
About it that stopped me from doing so.
...martha
Maybe it was the grimdark Superman bullshit or the.
...martha
Poorly done versions of everyone but.
...martha
Batman, who kind of rocked.
...martha
...martha
...martha
...martha
...martha
 

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That initial trilogy of movies that Peter Jackson directed. I love Tolkien's works. I had high hopes for the movies. I really wanted to like the movies. Unfortunately, I found them to be utter crap, with only the basic outline of the plot, but completely lacking faithfulness to the source material or any semblance of the soul therein contained.

I have not seen the second trilogy of movies that Peter Jackson directed because it would better to not see them and think they're crap than it would be to watch them and remove all doubt.
 

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2001 is a strange case for me.

I do realize why it's good, I do find it good even, but 7 out of the 8 times I've attempted watching it, it simply puts me to sleep.
 

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madwarper said:
That initial trilogy of movies that Peter Jackson directed. I love Tolkien's works. I had high hopes for the movies. I really wanted to like the movies. Unfortunately, I found them to be utter crap, with only the basic outline of the plot, but completely lacking faithfulness to the source material or any semblance of the soul therein contained.

I have not seen the second trilogy of movies that Peter Jackson directed because it would better to not see them and think they're crap than it would be to watch them and remove all doubt.
Been trying hard to think of an answer to this topic, and you gave it to me.

Lord of the Rings. Though more because I think I should like Lord of the Rings as a whole more, since I never read the books. It took Shadow of Mordor to make me really care about the world.

The movies are too all over the place. Its probably why I really liked The Hobbit films, cause it was a short story stretched rather than a bunch of long stories condensed.

Doesnt help the League of Aragorns, since I thought Aragorn, Boromir and some other guy were 3 brothers, and I didnt understand why alot of things were happening...like all of a sudden they go to that King guy in the valleys who is all cursed, and Im just all who the fuck?

(Im not expecting you personally to respond to this, just using your post as a jump off point)
 

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I honestly can't think of any movies that I've seen "wanting" to like it, but being disappointed by the final result.

Well, I guess the Matrix 2&3 movies would be ones that I wanted to be awesome (given how much I loved the first one), but ended up being so frustrating. I don't think I've seen either of them since the theatrical release.

Also, the Star Wars prequels, I guess count. I don't hate them like most nerds seem to. I don't think they're very good, but I don't think they raped my childhood, and I didn't go into a catatonic state of depression over their lameness. I was just...meh. I don't think they are the worst movies ever, and I still defend the line about sand, coming from a kid who lived his entire life on a fucking desert planet! Of course he would have strong feelings about sand. But yeah, they were mostly just disappointing. I can't bring myself to love them, but I can't hate them either.

Those are probably the only 2 examples I can think of.
 

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BvS and The Force Awakens are mine.

I was looking forward to both of them and for the first time in a long time let myself get hyped. I learned my lesson.

Although, this answer isn't really in line with the OP because I don't care for these movies pretty much at all. It's just that I was really hoping these two entries into some of my favorite franchises/characters would blow me away and I left with a pretty sour taste in my mouth instead (more so BvS than TFA)
 

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Avatar. The idea is interesting and the visuals are great... but the story is both kinda cliche and rather preachy for my tastes.

...Why are we getting an Avatar theme park again?
Yeah, it's crap. I hate movies that act like it's being innovative or trying to say something new, when films or games have done better with the whole green aesop. When Ferngully does better job and more subtle by comparison, you know you've done fucked up. CrazyGirl17, if you want a better version of Avatar, watch Princess Mononoke. The latter treats audience with respect, doesn't talk down on them, and makes valid argument that both sides have a point. Myazaki knows how to do grey areas.

For a time I wanted to like Ghost in the Shell (1995), but couldn't; twelve-year old me sometimes did not have the best attention span back in 2002. I viewed the film last night and have more appreciation for it now, but I still think GitS is over hyped as this "grand masterpiece". I understand why; given it's animation, the dubbing aging well for the most part, the soundtrack, and action scenes. Especially the action. There was so much attention to detail. The only thing I can fault it for is that it can go way far into the philosophical realm, yet not to the point of obnoxiousness or going all the way up its own ass; unlike some other anime. (cough)..Evangelion! (cough)...Elfen Lied! That's said I tried to like GitS: SAC back when it aired on [adult_swim], but the pacing was too slow for me. Blood + had my complete attention.

Hard Target 2 I don't hate, but found it average and believed it should have been called something else. A decent action movie in its own right, but could never match the spectacle of the original. HT 2 is a another one of those cash-in DVD sequels. The movie ain't worth $15.00, so if anyone's curious, wait for a sale. I still like Scott Adkins though.

I wanted to like Iron Man 2, Thor 2, and Age of Ultron, but they either suffered from self hand job sequel baiting, boring forgettable villains, and a apathetic director obviously in a weird between of trying too hard and not trying hard enough.
 

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I wanted to like Fantastic Beasts. Now I'm stuck writing a review for a mediocre review and facing the wrath of the potterheads.
 

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I wanted to like Fantastic Beasts. Now I'm stuck writing a review for a mediocre review and facing the wrath of the potterheads.
You won't get any wrath from me. I only like the first 2 movies the best and have a varying different opinion of the later films raging from good to bad.

But sum up what is wrong with Fantastic Beasts cause I want to know.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
Johnny Novgorod said:
I wanted to like Fantastic Beasts. Now I'm stuck writing a review for a mediocre review and facing the wrath of the potterheads.
You won't get any wrath from me. I only like the first 2 movies the best and have a varying different opinion of the later films raging from good to bad.

But sum up what is wrong with Fantastic Beasts cause I want to know.
The good: it's genuinely entertaining and largely independent from the Harry Potter movies. It's actually trying to tell its own story.

The bad: it's obviously a place holder for "first out of five movies". Newt is a boring, sheepish character who's entirely reactionary. The female co-star is just as bland (secondary cast is infinitely more interesting, including Colin Farrell, who I think is now my favorite over-actor). The plot is basically one big accident and feels rather meaningless when compared to all the stuff the movie is "discretely" setting up for its own finale and the rest of the franchise. There're a couple of quaint subplots that feel off and unrelated in the movie and by the end have been all but discarded. And YMMV on this one but some of the FX are pretty phony. I don't want to spoil anything but there's a bit where Eddie Redmayne is nuzzling one of his pets that is obviously not there and it completely took me out of it. It's "baby doll from American Sniper" level of disbelief.
 

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Huh...I came to mention Jupiter Ascending too. It did have promise in the first maybe 15-20 minutes of intrigue and lore. But then slowly fell into predictable action movie tropes with less focus on the interesting aliens and more focus on "the special" and Tatum's kicking of various ass. Also, what is it with that brother alien with the terrible complexion and the creepy voice? We never get to see him actually do anything sinister and are just coasting off his unnerving creep factor to hate him. I was waiting for him to do something. Anything to justify his rather effectively unsettling demeanour. But no, just softly spoken words of derision. A waste of a villain if you ask me.

Age of Ultron, or maybe a lot of marvel films because nothing ever feels like it can't be easily saved in a magical hail of CGI. All great villains seem worthless against the CGI puppet master of play. It all is a bit fun to watch in the moment, but I still get a sense of shame when it passes and the inevitable realisation that nothing was at stake, no matter how they try to dress it up in bigger looking steaks.
 

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Mad Max: Fury Road

I feel like there might actually be something wrong with me for not liking this movie. Everyone seemed to like this movie. It got great reviews, it was loved by critics and audiences, everyone I know who saw it loved it, all of the internet reviewers that have similar tastes to mine loved it... this movie could seemingly do no wrong. Yet when I went to see it, I was mostly just bored. BORED.

Seriously, what the hell is wrong with me? I love action movies! I especially love action movies that have mostly practical effects. I even love the other Mad Max movies. For some reason though this one just failed to strike a chord with me.

I re-watched it a few months ago, hoping that maybe I was just having a bad day or something that tainted my first viewing... and I still couldn't get into it.
 

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Johnny Novgorod said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Johnny Novgorod said:
I wanted to like Fantastic Beasts. Now I'm stuck writing a review for a mediocre review and facing the wrath of the potterheads.
You won't get any wrath from me. I only like the first 2 movies the best and have a varying different opinion of the later films raging from good to bad.

But sum up what is wrong with Fantastic Beasts cause I want to know.
The good: it's genuinely entertaining and largely independent from the Harry Potter movies. It's actually trying to tell its own story.

The bad: it's obviously a place holder for "first out of five movies". Newt is a boring, sheepish character who's entirely reactionary. The female co-star is just as bland (secondary cast is infinitely more interesting, including Colin Farrell, who I think is now my favorite over-actor). The plot is basically one big accident and feels rather meaningless when compared to all the stuff the movie is "discretely" setting up for its own finale and the rest of the franchise. There're a couple of quaint subplots that feel off and unrelated in the movie and by the end have been all but discarded. And YMMV on this one but some of the FX are pretty phony. I don't want to spoil anything but there's a bit where Eddie Redmayne is nuzzling one of his pets that is obviously not there and it completely took me out of it. It's "baby doll from American Sniper" level of disbelief.
Question: Was the scene with this Goblin Character good?



Because that guy looks interesting.
 

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I'm confining these entries to movies that I think I should love more, not films I wish I could love more (e.g. won't include, say, Warcraft - wanted to love the film, and I do like it, but I can't deny that it's heavily flawed)

-The BFG (Spielberg version): I wanted to like this, but the film's just too twee.

-Most MCU movies (because liking them would make my life a lot easier)

-Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (I've never really liked the Harry Potter films, seeing them as inferior to the books. Yet I can't deny that Azkaban deserves props for its cinematography, and how it set the visual style for all the films that would follow it)

-From Russia with Love (I like many James Bond films, but this isn't one of them. It's not my least favorite Bond film, but I feel that it's a case of "sorry, it's me, not you")

-2001: A Space Odyssey (it would be so much easier for me to love this film, because while I don't like it, I can't deny the influence it had on the genre. But I just can't get invested in it in the same way as other Space Odyssey works)

-Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back (this has always been my least favorite Original Trilogy. Life would be easier if that wasn't the case)

-Winter's Bone (I have a feeling I didn't give this film a fair chance when I saw it - by all rights, I feel it's a film I should love, but just didn't at the time)

-The Martian (I sometimes wonder if I'm too harsh on the film. I do like it, but I like the book a lot more)

-Spotlight (Feel I should like this a lot more than I do)
 

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Doing a separate post per other entries:

-Jupiter Ascending: I wanted this to be good, really. I feel the Matrix sequels get bashed on way too much, and I wanted the Wachowskis to have some good luck. But...the film just isn't good. It presents an interesting world, mired by a repetitive plot that effectively goes nowhere. But hey, the visuals are nice.

-Avatar: Sometimes, I feel like I'm the only one who likes this film. :( What's weird is that the criticisms I hear (cliched, preachy, 2D characters) are the inverse of why I love it (subverts cliche, subtle, 3D characters). But, yes, I love this film, but I guess it's the inverse of the above post - a film it would be easier to hate.

-Blade Runner: The best sci-fi film ever, IMO. That said, it's very easy to see why someone wouldn't like it, and it's similar to why I dislike 2001 - it's a slog to get through. A very engaging slog for me personally, but a slog nonetheless. I think the reason why I like Blade Runner and not 2001 is that, despite their similar pace, there's far more going on in Blade Runner visually, whereas in 2001, most of the time we're either seeing the emptiness of space, or a stargate sequence that lasts ten. Whole. Minutes.

-Guardians of the Galaxy: I had reasonable expectations for this - an MCU film that doesn't require me seeing all the others to understand what's going on? A space adventure with a band of outlaws fighting the good fight, in a vein similar to Firefly, Farscape, and Blake's 7? Count me in!

...I didn't like it much. The characters are cliche, the villain is two-dimensional, and the Guardians win by literally using the power of friendship to withstand the infinity stone. And I know, I've just stated how I didn't find Avatar to be cliche, but, well, beggars can't be choosers.

-Batman v Superman: I wanted to like this film. I really did. I wanted superhero films that I could actually enjoy. I mean, Man of Steel was flawed, but still above most other MCU films. I went in hoping for the best. Instead, I got a shuffling mess of a story. People bring up the "Martha moment," but that doesn't come close to the issues of pacing the film suffers from, and the lack of a clear direction in its plot.

-The Lord of the Rings Trilogy: Favorite movies of all time, at least with the extended editions. So, um, yeah. Not much more to say.

-The Matrix Reloaded/Revolutions: I'll say it. The Matrix Trilogy is a case of an excellent first movie, followed by a good second movie, followed by an average third movie. Do the sequels match the original? No. Is Revolutions lacking in terms of actual plot? Yes. But honestly, I still regard the trilogy as a net positive.

-Star Wars Prequels: I can't deny that the prequels are lacking in a lot of areas, even Revenge of the Sith, which is actually my #3 Star Wars film. But I've never hated them. I actually liked them more than the OT for a time, until I looked at them more critically. But are they bad movies? No. Not really. Flawed, yes, but there's a lot of good elements, or at least, hints at good elements. Certainly I welcome them more than The Force Awakens, even if it's more competently made.

-The Force Awakens: A New Hope 2.0. That's all I can say. No, it's not the worst Star Wars film ever made, but I have little love for it. How and why could fill a thread by itself, but yes, I can admit it's a well made film in of itself. But I just don't care for it, and unlike other films, don't see why I should feel that I should.

-Iron Man 2: The worst MCU film I've seen. It's lacklustre, the villain is weak, the plot is too easily resolved, it's just...bleh. Which sucks, because Iron Man 1 & 3 are among my top MCU films alongside Doctor Strange.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
Johnny Novgorod said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Johnny Novgorod said:
I wanted to like Fantastic Beasts. Now I'm stuck writing a review for a mediocre review and facing the wrath of the potterheads.
You won't get any wrath from me. I only like the first 2 movies the best and have a varying different opinion of the later films raging from good to bad.

But sum up what is wrong with Fantastic Beasts cause I want to know.
The good: it's genuinely entertaining and largely independent from the Harry Potter movies. It's actually trying to tell its own story.

The bad: it's obviously a place holder for "first out of five movies". Newt is a boring, sheepish character who's entirely reactionary. The female co-star is just as bland (secondary cast is infinitely more interesting, including Colin Farrell, who I think is now my favorite over-actor). The plot is basically one big accident and feels rather meaningless when compared to all the stuff the movie is "discretely" setting up for its own finale and the rest of the franchise. There're a couple of quaint subplots that feel off and unrelated in the movie and by the end have been all but discarded. And YMMV on this one but some of the FX are pretty phony. I don't want to spoil anything but there's a bit where Eddie Redmayne is nuzzling one of his pets that is obviously not there and it completely took me out of it. It's "baby doll from American Sniper" level of disbelief.
Question: Was the scene with this Goblin Character good?



Because that guy looks interesting.
I thought the goblins looked kidna fake (especially the goblin singer that opens up that scene). Otherwise nothing remarkable about it. It's Ron Perlman (voice anyway) doing his sleazy black market schtick from Pacific Rim again.