Battenberg said:
Surprised no one has said this already but The Dark Knight rises is the obvious pick for me. Pretty sure I don't need to explain why/ where it fell apart for people who've seen it.
Um...where? I thought that the film had its problems rooted at the start, in that we have a frantically paced first half, and a slow paced second half, to the extent that it feels like two movies compressed together. Course you can point to other problems as well, but I can't think of any one single point, except maybe when Bruce and Talia make out (because, reasons).
Chanticoblues said:
Hawki said:
it's a film with a good plot that's told with excruciating tedium
I think it's such a fun film on a shot-by-shot level; there's so much going on. I don't imagine you have many good things to say about Antonioni, Tarr, Alonso, Akerman, Benning, etc.
Can't comment on those directors. If you want to discuss things 'happening per shot,' then I think a lot of acclaim can go to films like Blade Runner, RGB, Apocalypse Now, The Revenant, and maybe Citizen Kane (though I'd say its strengths are more based on the style of shot rather than material per shot). Thing is, for me, 2001 has things happening to various extents, but not enough to prevent tedium setting in.
Ezekiel said:
Yeah, I never really found 2001 tedious at all. If that's tedious, I wonder what you'd think of Solaris. That I found hard to sit through. Gonna have to try again sometime I have nothing else to do.
I've only seen the 2002 film, and I loathed it. We have an interesting concept (an intelligent planet, whose manner of thought is so different from humanity's that it conveys how futile it is for one to try to understand the other), and boils it down to relationship melodrama.
Squilookle said:
And I'm gonna surprise everyone by saying Wall-E. First 20 minutes were pure gold, but after that it just got worse and worse and worse.
You monster! ;p
Squilookle said:
2001 was only slightly tedious for me. The inexplicable ending is what peeved me off with that one.
Funnily enough, I feel the ending is perhaps the one area that the film surpasses the novel (maybe the second, as book!HAL doesn't quite reach the level of menace as film!HAL). Problem with the novel is that the ending is very abrupt. The film's ending, with Dave as the Star Child, conveys far more granduer. It also ties in better with the film's theme(s) (evolution, journey of mankind, etc.), then the book's ending does with the book's themes (evolution, loneliness/aspiration/desire, etc.)