Ooh, those are nice. I could cut the Camel and replace it with the Hellion, add in the Bond of Agony and cut the Mindmoil for an [mtg_card=Illusions of Grandeur]TyrunnAlberyn said:
MtG Players, I could use your help for a (godawful, terrible) new EDH deck.
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The end result looks truly awful. Now watch as you win by accident the first time you take this deck out, just because your opponents keep misreading your cards and help keep you alive by countering them and the like 
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You're not running [mtg_card=Knowledge Pool] alongside that [mtg_card=Possibility Storm]? Madness. Also both volatile rig and the Nehpilim seem too good. Like, they actually attack profitably and maybe blow up stuff or get big enough to eventually attack quite comfortably, respectively.
You could find jankier.
EDIT; I'm also not seeing any [mtg_card=Scrambleverse] either. This is tantamount to heresy!
You could find jankier.
EDIT; I'm also not seeing any [mtg_card=Scrambleverse] either. This is tantamount to heresy!
I could cut the Nephilim for Knowledge Pool and Battle of Wits for Scrambleverse easily enough. You don't think the 2 coin flip mechanics on Volatile Rig classify it as stupid enough for this deck though?Hawk of Battle said:
I think running heavy solo mana cost cards like Phage will spoil your fun. There's nothing inherently fun with a dead card in hand. If I were to build the 'bad' deck I'd want to be able to use the cards.
I think running all of the Nephalem would be a great choice. Those cards have elements of fun to them without being remotely competitive.
I think you should run run more 3+ colour cards as well to take advantage of your 5 colour theme. If you happen to run some cards that are good than that's fine, the deck won't win but you'll be doing fun things.
- Cromat
- Genju of the Realm
- Last Stand - Very fun card in the late game
- Sen Triplets
- Zur the Enchanter - so long as you have a couple of targets for him.
You could argue that I'm trying to make the deck too competitive but I like the idea of doing stuff that's interesting rather than just playing wasted space.
If you want to run wasted space stuff then I think Homerid was a good choice. My favorite wasted card is Apocalypse Chime if you have it.
Card Text: 2, Tap: Sacrifice Apocalypse Chime to bury all cards from the Homelands expansion.
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I think running all of the Nephalem would be a great choice. Those cards have elements of fun to them without being remotely competitive.
I think you should run run more 3+ colour cards as well to take advantage of your 5 colour theme. If you happen to run some cards that are good than that's fine, the deck won't win but you'll be doing fun things.
- Cromat
- Genju of the Realm
- Last Stand - Very fun card in the late game
- Sen Triplets
- Zur the Enchanter - so long as you have a couple of targets for him.
You could argue that I'm trying to make the deck too competitive but I like the idea of doing stuff that's interesting rather than just playing wasted space.
If you want to run wasted space stuff then I think Homerid was a good choice. My favorite wasted card is Apocalypse Chime if you have it.
Card Text: 2, Tap: Sacrifice Apocalypse Chime to bury all cards from the Homelands expansion.
Get Rekt EDH format!
I mostly went with 5 colours so that I could run all of the stupid, terrible and awful cards. Well, 65 of them at least.babinro said:
Ooh, Apocalypse Chime! I'd forgotten all about that one!
Zur the Enchanter I think could find a place in the deck, letting me play some of the (awful) enchantments for free is quite nice. Cromat could probably fit too, as it's going to be painful to use in any meaningful way (since most of the lands that I'm running either hurt or do silly things).
I put Phage in the deck more for amusements' sake than as an actual playable card. Accidentally getting her thanks to Possibility Storm is always hilarious.
Genju of the Realm is, unfortunately, far to powerful and useful for this particular deck (I'm calling it The Craptastic Spellbook of a Failed Wizard). I do have an actually playable deck that I think that'll definitely work in though.
Last Stand could work though. At best I'll only have 2 of each basic land type, so it wouldn't be powerful enough to have a genuine impact on the game.
I really like Sen Triplets, but again I think that's too powerful and useful an effect for this particular deck (it is meant to be absolutely terrible, after all).
Thanks for your suggestions!
[Edit]
So I cut the Wood Elemental for the Cromat, the Volatile Rig for Zur the Enchanter and Ember Shot for Last Stand.
I see you've already cut the rig anyway, but yeah, I mean at worst it was a 4/4 that can attack pretty well and you can disguise the fact you have to hit your opponents each turn by claiming "oh no I'm sorry, it just HAS to attack somebody!" And then occasionally it blows up because somebody is stupid enough to block it and causes a board wipe.DarthCoercis said:
You definately need Knowledge Pool and Scrambleverse in here though, as they both let you essentially play other peoples stuff, scrambleverse itself completely shakes up the field and causes other players no end of grief. The pool is also even better in your deck because you can dump otherwise useless cards into and instead play your opponents better stuff, leaving them less value.
And then you combine either of them with [mtg_card=Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir] and hard lock your opponents out of the game forever.
Oops, knew I forgot to edit something! Thanks for reminding me. I've cut the Battle of Wits for Scrambleverse and the Boompile for Knowledge Pool.Hawk of Battle said:
Can I get away with Teferi, given the deck's "theme"? What do you think I should cut for it? The Horror of Horrors, maybe?
Could I put [mtg_card=Confusion in the Ranks] into this deck? I think it could add some extra hilarity. What should I cut for it, if you all think it's a good fit?
Up to you really. Looking more closely it looks like you'll probably be dead to your own manabase before too long, and the Horrors does literally nothing. So if you're just trying to kill yourself quickly and have nohting but dead cards either in hand or on the field, skip Teferi, however...DarthCoercis said:
If you actually want to make the deck still do wierd shit and run otherwise janky ass cards like Confusion (which combos quite well with Illusions of Grandeur btw), then you can have a deck that technically does stuff, that's probably gona cause others to rage and not know what the hell is happening anymore, resulting in pure chaos and actual fun, even with the jankiness. And if you do run Confusion, then [mtg_card=Perplexing Chimera] would also like a word.DarthCoercis said:
In my experience, you want to let people play their decks the way they intended to. Confusion in the ranks and cards like it will get you targeted to the best of the tables' ability. Meanwhile, cards like Balduvian Shaman will have people keeping you in the game just to see what you'll play next.DarthCoercis said:
Found a place to fit him. I cut the Torpid Moloch.Hawk of Battle said:
He's in, and so's Confusion. I think Confusion combos pretty well with Possibility Storm too.
I'm running [mtg_card=The Cheese Stands Alone]. I know we're not supposed to use Un cards, but since the Cheese got reprinted as Barren Glory, I think I can get away with it.Randomosity said:
Heh, if my own deck hasn't killed me by turn 10, something is going wrong. I'm not overly worried about being a target, but the idea of a Possibility Storm/Confusion combo amuses me too much to leave out.Choppaduel said:
Looking good. I am amused how you can so very nearly win with the Cheese/One with Nothing. All you really need is a way to destroy all your lands now. Hope someones running [mtg_card=Armageddon]. I also can't wait for you to Dubiously Challenge someone, revealing Leveller and for them to snap take it because it's a 10/10, not realizing what it does or that it's a may ability on the challenge. Same for Phage. Though that seems unlikely.
It will be hilarious as well when you accidentally imprint that Necropotence and/or Enter the Infinite onto The Knowledge Pool and let someone else have the value, or maybe even get them back with the Chimera if they forget about it. You could even be a real dick and give them your Demonic Pact or Illusions of Grandeur with Confusion. Hell you could even Possibility Storm into either of them if Confusion is out and you cast any other enchantment.
Of course, there's also the Leveler/Lab Maniac combo, which might even be the easiest way you just outright win here. But that sounds positively boring by comparison!
It will be hilarious as well when you accidentally imprint that Necropotence and/or Enter the Infinite onto The Knowledge Pool and let someone else have the value, or maybe even get them back with the Chimera if they forget about it. You could even be a real dick and give them your Demonic Pact or Illusions of Grandeur with Confusion. Hell you could even Possibility Storm into either of them if Confusion is out and you cast any other enchantment.
Of course, there's also the Leveler/Lab Maniac combo, which might even be the easiest way you just outright win here. But that sounds positively boring by comparison!
Bizarre, accidental win conditions are the best win conditions! Maybe I should run an Armageddon or that spell that destroys all creatures, artifacts and lands (I can't remember it's name, but I'm pretty sure it's red), just to see if I can pull off a win via the Cheese.
The cards I had to buy (not that many, surprisingly) should arrive either by the weekend or early next week, so I'll have a week or so for playtesting the deck with a couple of mates to work out the flow of deck (if there even is such a thing) and the kinks.
Thanks again for all your suggestions and help, gang!
I'll update my op after the event, and let you know how the shenanigans go. Please do keep offering suggestions and thoughts on the deck, its composition and my mental health for deciding to create this monstrosity in the first place, I'm enjoying the discussion.
The cards I had to buy (not that many, surprisingly) should arrive either by the weekend or early next week, so I'll have a week or so for playtesting the deck with a couple of mates to work out the flow of deck (if there even is such a thing) and the kinks.
Thanks again for all your suggestions and help, gang!
I'll update my op after the event, and let you know how the shenanigans go. Please do keep offering suggestions and thoughts on the deck, its composition and my mental health for deciding to create this monstrosity in the first place, I'm enjoying the discussion.
Oooh, that looks like a good fit. Having to sac a permanent is pretty horrible. What would you suggest replacing with it?RaikuFA said:
Ways to win with The Cheese.
[mtg_card=Decree of Annihilation] with The Cheese on the Table.
Play Cheese, Use [mtg_card=Oblivion Ring] or other like effect. Play [mtg_card=Apocalypse].
Play [mtg_card=Academy Rector] Resolve [mtg_card=Kaervek's Spite] on the end step of the opponent right before your turn. Play The Cheese
Now, I'm not saying to work these into the deck, but a Barren Glory/Cheese win in always satisfying, especially in a deck as janky as yours.
[mtg_card=Decree of Annihilation] with The Cheese on the Table.
Play Cheese, Use [mtg_card=Oblivion Ring] or other like effect. Play [mtg_card=Apocalypse].
Play [mtg_card=Academy Rector] Resolve [mtg_card=Kaervek's Spite] on the end step of the opponent right before your turn. Play The Cheese
Now, I'm not saying to work these into the deck, but a Barren Glory/Cheese win in always satisfying, especially in a deck as janky as yours.