Muay Thai vs Krav Maga???

[JesterRaiin]

Tried both.

This is my point of view, but here it goes.

MT needs much more time, more discipline, more work and whole ocean of sweat, but advances you in many, many more ways than KM. After years of practice, you'll be one though SOB.
Yeah, you'll be though, but do you have strong enough character to do it ? No pain, no gain. Are you ready ?

KM isn't THAT demanding, and after much shorter period of time you may be able to defend yourself against minor threats, maybe fire some simple technique. Quite nice system, i just love its strategy, tactics. Then again, maybe it was only our group, but i didn't felt my body pressed to limits. Didn't liked it.

The again... Whatever you pick, first say bye-bye to dreams and illusions.
Nothing will make you ready for any situation. There are knife throwers, gangstas with guns, armed, skilled robbers and drug driven psychos. Against them, against people who are literally ready to kill, or just don't care NO system is 100% perfect. At the end every master/sensei/mestre (or whatever his/her name was) when asked admitted one : there are times one may count only for luck.

 

[MelziGurl]

My personal trainer uses Muay Thai for her boxing classes. I'd go Muay Tai, after watching Ong Bak...OMG that guy can move.

 

[Lord Monocle Von Banworthy]

Your post is of no relevance to the OP, and so you are simply 'attacking' Seledon. The idea that either of these martial arts would be part of the OP's culture is absurd, considering the fact he is willing to choose either. I understand you enjoy insulting people, for (quite likely) some inferiority complex, but lets keep things on track and answer the OP rather than go off-topic about any possible motivation any individual may or may not have.

I take it you have never engaged in a martial art, or esque activity due to your lack of comprehension.

On topic, I would recommend Krav Maga for you, unless you really do just want to hurt people. If thats the case then choose Muay Thai. Just remember if you learn a martial art to a high degree your hands are classed as a weapon which can have severe legal ramifications.

This is a pitiful troll. Nobody's hands are classed as weapons. That was an old myth the bareknuckle-era boxers used to use to advertise themselves.

Didn't Seledon insult the OP by suggesting that his motivations for studying martial arts made him a douchebag? I think that responding to that does tie into the OP then.

Also, there are no personality traits that covary with one's practice of martial arts. That's a myth the stripmall krotty teachers use to sell memberships in the Black Belt Club to the naive parents of poorly-behaved six year olds. For the record though I've practiced martial arts seriously including teaching them for 15 years, and yes, I am an asshole.

OP, watch classes like I said and don't rely on internet forums, especially GAMING internet forums for real information.

 

[cleverlymadeup]

Both styles are largely offensive, rather than defensive, and based on preemptive attacking, rather than any blocking. Krav Maga is better for simple incapacitation (not causing long-term damage), Muay Thai is better for strictly hurting people. Neither style is as effective against a trained opponent than against a relatively untrained one, since both require some element of overwhelming force to work.

ummm that's wrong, see Muay Thai is actually VERY effective against a trained oponent, case in point Anderson Silva the middleweight champ of the UFC. he's a Muay Thai practitioner and VERY effective against other highly trained opponents.

the thing i've found with a couple krav maga schools is they will try to incorporate other styles to pick up points they aren't good at. this begs the question why to take it

with Muay Thai, it is straight kick boxing, there is no bjj/judo/wrestling style grappling in it. the "grappling" in Muay Thai is what most people call "the clinch"

i will recommend Muay Thai because it's very effective against a live opponent. most Thai schools have you spare against other members of the gym as well as participate in fights. the biggest thing about Thai is how many fights you have, they don't always care about wins just how many fights you have

 

[Lord Monocle Von Banworthy]

I never said I mastered more than one martial art. I never said I mastered anything actually. Read what's written. I practiced, INCLUDING TEACHING them for 15 years. To be more accurate I have practiced for 15 and taught for 4. Along the way I've practiced Judo, Kenpo, Capoeira, Wushu, Aikido, Krav Maga and Japanese Jujutsu as an actual student and taken seminars in a good dozen other arts so that I have at least seen their merits enough to pick them out of a crowd. I don't teach now and I've actually started a new style where I'm back to wearing a white belt again since I've moved to Japan. My black belt is...somewhere in a box in the closet I think, where it'll stay until I've reearned it.

As for registering your hands, you made the positive claim, so it should be easy for you to find some proof. A simple link to the appropriate penal code would be sufficient. On a martial arts forum I've been a member of for a long time we've had tons of people including lawyers search for information on the subject and they have without fail come to the conclusion that the whole proposition is nonsense. As for information to back up MY assertion I have a couple of amusing links for you:
http://archives.stupidquestion.net/sq4402handsasweapons.html
http://www.registeryourhands.com/index.html (I find this one hilarious.)
The first link has the best short breakdown I've been able to find. There's simply nothing to the myth. Why do you think there is?

Now, as for what I have taught my students and/or been taught: I taught them karate, which is a set of physical movements, which are combined to form tactics, which combine to form strategies, which pursue goals. It's an athletic endeavor. Now certainly through pursuing difficult goals one learns patience. Through encountering people superior to us while pursuing those goals we learn humility. Through enduring pressure we learn to think under it. This is not unique to martial arts. Most of the lessons people advertise you learning from martial arts you would learn through lacrosse or track and field or any vigorous activity that you pursued with a sincere desire for excellence.

Did I however give my students lectures on patience and the ability to think under pressure? No. Did I ever give them lectures on respecting their teachers? No. They were respectful of ability because they wanted to learn it. Most people are. If someone is rude and disrupts class it's not like I was a public school teacher. The answer was simple. Your membership's revoked, here's this month's tuition refunded to you, have a good life. The basics of karate are stances, blocks, kicks and punches, not personality traits. Read Tuesdays with Morrie if you want life lessons.

Amusingly enough now that I'm practicing karate in Japan there's even less talk than in America. This pseudospiritual fetishization of the martial arts in the West is actually not as prevalent in the East as everyone wants to believe. You know what our instructor talks about in class in Japan? He talks about how to throw a punch, or how to kick somebody without falling over or how to block a kick without breaking your arm. He's not under some illusion that he's our wise old Jedi master. He's a coach and he knows it and he's respected for it, especially at this school which I'll name for you by PM if you insist.

I notice you don't seem to think boxing is a martial art. Why not? Because it's not Asian, because it doesn't kick, because it doesn't have belts? (Actually it has big shiny belts.) Why do you accept Muay Thai as a martial art and not boxing?

tl;dr: Find me the deadly hands law please, I know krotty, why is boxing not MA?

 

[cleverlymadeup]

As for registering your hands, you made the positive claim, so it should be easy for you to find some proof. A simple link to the appropriate penal code would be sufficient. On a martial arts forum I've been a member of for a long time we've had tons of people including lawyers search for information on the subject and they have without fail come to the conclusion that the whole proposition is nonsense. As for information to back up MY assertion I have a couple of amusing links for you:
http://archives.stupidquestion.net/sq4402handsasweapons.html
http://www.registeryourhands.com/index.html (I find this one hilarious.)
The first link has the best short breakdown I've been able to find. There's simply nothing to the myth. Why do you think there is?

forgot about this before but figured i'd add to this one

me and a some dude were talking about martial arts and such, we got on the topic of "deadly hands" and the "you have to warn someone if you have a blackbelt" myths

well later in the day we ran into a police officer and we asked him about this. after he stopped laughing he told us this "well if you have a training in any type of fighting, you don't have to inform the person about it, HOWEVER you can't kung fu the guy's next week but you can defend yourself you just have to be careful about how much force you use to defend yourself"

I notice you don't seem to think boxing is a martial art. Why not? Because it's not Asian, because it doesn't kick, because it doesn't have belts? (Actually it has big shiny belts.) Why do you accept Muay Thai as a martial art and not boxing?

yeah i always consider boxing a martial art. there are people who don't tho and i think it has to do with how it's practiced, as there's no real "art" side of it, where Muay Thai and others do. btw there is Savate [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savate] that is a French martial art and it is considered a martial art

 

[Lord Monocle Von Banworthy]

I think people are confused as to what "art" means. Check out the definition at Merriam-Webster. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/art%5B2%5D mentions that "art" is skill acquired through practice and study. Somewhere along the line people decided that martial arts, that is to say literally the "arts of Mars (war)" were "arts" because they were pretty.

Is boxing not "skill acquired by experience, study, or observation," in addition to being " an occupation requiring knowledge or skill?" And is it not warlike? Therefore it is a martial art, and a lot older than any of the Asian ones for that matter.