Multiple consoles

[TPiddy]

Why wouldn't you game on PC? Really? I'm not saying it's only what you should game on, but why are you acting as if no one should game on PC?? What's your phobia of using a PC for stuff other than forum trolling? Will it cost you extra money? Hardly, PC games are cheaper than console games by a hell of a lot.
And why the hell are you mentioning PS3? Oh right because you are trolling.

I've already explained why I don't personally game on PC. I have no problem with people that do, and IF you do, then PC can be factored into an argument about game availablity. However, if you DON'T, then fuck off with your "that game is not exclusive because it's on PC". Is that so hard to comprehend?

You're right... you do not say that people should only game on PC, you say that people should game on PC to avoid getting a 360. You seem to have a problem with people that don't game on PC though... and that's where your opinion becomes way too biased to even be viable in an argument. It seems that it is impossible for you to do a straight CONSOLE to CONSOLE comparison of PS3 to 360.

My mentions of PS3 are purely designed to flame you because you deserve to be flamed for such blatant fanboysim.

 

[Treblaine]

This is good, I think the only way forward is to invest in both consoles as at this point as there is just so much good stuff between them.

But I would suggest you invest in upgrading your PC first, you'll get a lot more mileage out of it and for a not unreasonable cost get some of the best graphics of this generation. But if you can't be bothered researching system requirements and hunting down the bargains it's not worth it.

Otherwise, 360 is best at the moment for the many great XBLA releases, though to be honest this has not been Microsoft's best year for big retail releases with Forza 3 being the only AAA title (IMHO of course) while ODST seems more like a solid A- or B+... it should have been DLC expansion pack for Halo 3, not a stand alone release though it has still sold amazingly well.

Fable 2 and Gears of War 2 are obvious choices though I'd start off with earlier releases like
Dead Rising, Halo 3, Crackdown, Mass Effect, and Forza 2 or PGR4 for your racing.

IMHO, 360 is really going to pay off next year, so much has been delayed to 2010 like Splinter Cell: Conviction, Mass Effect 2, Alan Wake, Crackdown 2, Fable 3, Halo: Reach
You may want to delay any purchase till then as the price may have fallen even further.

You should also check out:

http://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry/

These guys are pros, they will tell you exactly which version of multiplatform titles play/look better on which console so you can really get your money's worth. For so many multiplat games the 360 release is better than the PS3 release. They aren't bias as they are never short of praise for PS3 exclusive titles like Killzone 2 and Uncharted 1 + 2.

If you don't have a HDTV already, I suggest you check out the 360's VGA cable that allows full-HD output to virtually any computer monitor that should at least be able to display 720p, a big step up from 480i if you have just been using composite (yellow cable) output. The value of this is a "HD Equivalent" computer monitor (sans HDMI-port) is usually much cheaper than a HDTV.

However, I have found some 1080p monitors with HDMI support for reasonable prices (e.g. BenQ G2411HD for ~£140) so my PS3 will soon be getting the HD treatment it deserves for all those 1080p games and blu-ray movies (that are finally selling for some reasonable prices).

 

[mattiboi24]

I saw Flame Thread at the beginning and I got excited. Xbox 360 is no fun! Down with Microsoft! >_> OMG PS3 FTW ANL.

(The Xbox 360 has a lot of good games, i.e. Dead Rising, but if you don't already have one buying one now is pointless because better games are being developed as we speak, which is why I own a PS3 and my brother owns an Xbox 360. >_>)

 

[SloLynx]

Because some Xbox 360 owners would say: "The PS3 sucks, buy the Xbox 360 and sell the PS3", while some PS3 owners would say. "the Xbox 360 sucks, don't buy it!!!"

Of course, not everyone would say this, but the people who would say it, could start a major flame war.

 

[Pillypill]

I think you should get a 360, i'm a multi platform man myself. Though i would warn you... fable 2 can dissapoint, rent it. It's a lot shorter than Fable: TLC, and it's less fun (or so i feel) GOW2 i would recomend (HIGHLY) if you like shooters, and if you're prepared to ignore most of what Marcus Fenix says. Halo 3, i wouldn't recomend, i liked it, but i think that if you've not gotton into halo yet, niether 3 nor 3:ODST, will convert you. Try the first 2 halo games if you're going to try halo on a seriously level. On top of that a 'few' inter-platform titles play better on the 360, they can get a little jumpy or buggy on the PS3.

Why choose one, when you can have both?

 

[Treblaine]

if i were you i'd stick with your PS3 and get a good PC as well. Or you could alter your PS3 to play x-box games as well.

I considered that but only 360 can offer:
PGR3+4, Forza 2+3, Dead Rising, Halo 3, Crackdown, Gears of War 2, Fable 2 as well as many really good XBLA exclusives. Especially for me living in the EU, as many DL-games have yet to be release on PSN Europe yet are already available on XBLA which doesn't have any region locking, or at least none that have impeded me.

Though I would prioritise getting a PC first and a 360 as late as possible since a decent Gaming PC can offer so much more than a 360 or even a PS3 in both quantity and quality of games.

But be warned, many 360/PC titles released are clearly "biased" towards the 360 as in they often are poorly optimised for PC or lack functionality, features or graphical effects seen on the 360 release. Gears of War 1 is the worst example of this, though there is added content the forums on graphical issues like just trying to get Anti-Aliasing to work on XP show it was far more a port than a co-development.

 

[PxDn Ninja]

I say go for it if you have the money for it, as long as you get one with the 120g hdd. There are plenty of good Xbox only titles just like there are fantastic Ps3 only titles.

 

[ItsAChiaotzu]

*Insert Suggestion to purchase a Wii here*

Also, the 360 does have a lot going for it. Is it stuff you really want though? The main game for the system is shooters. If you like those, get it and purchase a year of Live.

Wow, I didn't think you'd want to be known as the "wii guy" oh well.


Anyway, sure go for it, but do a lot of research beforehand, and play a couple of the games you would buy, then make your own decision.

 

[Treblaine]

Why wouldn't you game on PC? Really? I'm not saying it's only what you should game on, but why are you acting as if no one should game on PC?? What's your phobia of using a PC for stuff other than forum trolling? Will it cost you extra money? Hardly, PC games are cheaper than console games by a hell of a lot.
And why the hell are you mentioning PS3? Oh right because you are trolling.

I've already explained why I don't personally game on PC. I have no problem with people that do, and IF you do, then PC can be factored into an argument about game availablity. However, if you DON'T, then fuck off with your "that game is not exclusive because it's on PC". Is that so hard to comprehend?

You're right... you do not say that people should only game on PC, you say that people should game on PC to avoid getting a 360. You seem to have a problem with people that don't game on PC though... and that's where your opinion becomes way too biased to even be viable in an argument. It seems that it is impossible for you to do a straight CONSOLE to CONSOLE comparison of PS3 to 360.

My mentions of PS3 are purely designed to flame you because you deserve to be flamed for such blatant fanboysim.

So, if I don't play on a PC, but on 360, L4D is a 360 exclusive?
Therefore, if I don't game on the 360, and do on the PC, L4D is a PC exclusive?
Yeah because that makes a whole lot of sense. Fanboy logic at all?
You haven't actually stated why someone shouldn't game on PC. As it is known by most gamers, almost all multi-platform games:
a)Sometimes perform better on PC
b)Are cheaper on PC
c)Are easier to play on PC e.g. RTS' and FPS'
All I did was state that some games people dub as a 360 exclusive are actually also on PC. I didn't say that they should always be played on PC and that the 360 is etc etc or other subjective sh*t. That's you being paranoid and looking for an argument.
Since when did I say people should avoid a 360 for a PC?
Take your argumentative attitude and just leave, as you clearly are just wanting an argument for the sake of one, as you are claiming flat-out crap.
And well done, you are an admitted flamer. Aren't you the quality poster...

Don't be alarmed Mazty but I totally agree with you (remember me).

L4D is by no standards an exclusive, maybe console exclusive, but you have to admit a game like Left 4 Dead from Valve - who are extremely PC oriented - is a PC title and it was merely ported to 360.

360 has its strengths (mainly XBLA at the moment) but PC still rules the roost for FPS games like L4D. I'd never get L4D for 360, even if my PC was out of action for 3 months I'd play something else like Dead Rising or Uncharted, play to either console's strengths (Yes, I've finally seen the light on Uncharted).

I realise now I have been guilty of fanboyist thinking, it is very hard to deal with, investing hundreds of £ or $ in various machines it affects your ability to reason, you start getting ideological like "Oh, microsoft are the best, Sony can't do anything right" which just makes you blind to where one platform can offer a superior gaming experience.

At the end of the day it is not about brand loyalty but about the games and all of the consoles have great strengths that you have to be honest with yourself about what they have to offer.

 

[DrDeath3191]

*Insert Suggestion to purchase a Wii here*

Also, the 360 does have a lot going for it. Is it stuff you really want though? The main game for the system is shooters. If you like those, get it and purchase a year of Live.

Wow, I didn't think you'd want to be known as the "wii guy" oh well.


Anyway, sure go for it, but do a lot of research beforehand, and play a couple of the games you would buy, then make your own decision.

I never see a thread asking about whether to purchase a Wii or not. I just want to present the option. [sub]And maybe I am a Wii guy. Got a problem with that?[/sub]

 

[The_Deleted]

I have a PS3. Just recently got my 360.

No regrets at all.

 

[TPiddy]

So, if I don't play on a PC, but on 360, L4D is a 360 exclusive?
Therefore, if I don't game on the 360, and do on the PC, L4D is a PC exclusive?
Yeah because that makes a whole lot of sense. Fanboy logic at all?
You haven't actually stated why someone shouldn't game on PC. As it is known by most gamers, almost all multi-platform games:
a)Sometimes perform better on PC
b)Are cheaper on PC
c)Are easier to play on PC e.g. RTS' and FPS'
All I did was state that some games people dub as a 360 exclusive are actually also on PC. I didn't say that they should always be played on PC and that the 360 is etc etc or other subjective sh*t. That's you being paranoid and looking for an argument.
Since when did I say people should avoid a 360 for a PC?
Take your argumentative attitude and just leave, as you clearly are just wanting an argument for the sake of one, as you are claiming flat-out crap.
And well done, you are an admitted flamer. Aren't you the quality poster...

Obviously, if I don't play a game on PC, or any games on PC in general, if a title is available on PC, it's NOT available to me.... therefore, titles that are available on 360 are EXCLUSIVELY available on 360 TO ME. By raw definition, the titles are NOT exclusive because they are available on multiple platforms. I have never said otherwise. However, if, someone like me, would NEVER game on PC, then saying something comes out on PC is a pretty fucking moot point, now isn't it?

I don't have to justify to you why I don't play on PC. I've already said it's because I prefer a larger TV set up and I prefer using controllers, and I prefer to do so WITHOUT having to go through the steps involved to set up my PC to work with my TV and to set up my controllers to work with my PC. I also don't have to worry about compatibility issues. That is why I am console only, and I am not the only person to feel this way. In fact, the OP himself said that PC gaming was not a viable option.

So get it through your thick head... if someone DOES NOT game on PC, then titles available on PC DO NOT COUNT. I mean, the OP asked if he should get a 360, and you say, "all the best 360 exclusives are available on PC, so don't get one" then he said "My PC is old and would cost too much to upgrade, so I'm not going to game on PC", you're basically STILL saying back to the OP, "Upgrade your PC and play the 360 exclusives on that. Don't get a 360."

But, this is just another example of your use of double standards to support your argument... you like using the "look at the whole picture" line when talking about exclusive titles, but you refuse to "look at the whole picture" when it comes to the OP's gaming setup. Pwned.

 

[TPiddy]

Don't be alarmed Mazty but I totally agree with you (remember me).

L4D is by no standards an exclusive, maybe console exclusive, but you have to admit a game like Left 4 Dead from Valve - who are extremely PC oriented - is a PC title and it was merely ported to 360.

360 has its strengths (mainly XBLA at the moment) but PC still rules the roost for FPS games like L4D. I'd never get L4D for 360, even if my PC was out of action for 3 months I'd play something else like Dead Rising or Uncharted, play to either console's strengths (Yes, I've finally seen the light on Uncharted).

I realise now I have been guilty of fanboyist thinking, it is very hard to deal with, investing hundreds of £ or $ in various machines it affects your ability to reason, you start getting ideological like "Oh, microsoft are the best, Sony can't do anything right" which just makes you blind to where one platform can offer a superior gaming experience.

At the end of the day it is not about brand loyalty but about the games and all of the consoles have great strengths that you have to be honest with yourself about what they have to offer.

I'm glad to see your a bit more reasonable... PC will always be the premiere platform for gaming, but there are people out there such as myself that just prefer to game on a console. Now, can you not agree, that to someone who only likes console gaming, that L4D, Mass Effect and the like would count as 360 exclusive? Does mentioning that they're available on PC seem pretty useless when talking to someone who does not game on PC?

 

[Skratt]

If you have beaten 8 of the last 10 console games you have purchased, you may find that your PS3 will collect dust after you discover and begin paying for XBOX Live.

However, if you have been going from new game to new game without finishing any of them, no amount of online gaming will fill the void caused by your addiction to video games. I know, because I have one.

 

[WaffleGod]

If you have beaten 8 of the last 10 console games you have purchased, you may find that your PS3 will collect dust after you discover and begin paying for XBOX Live.

However, if you have been going from new game to new game without finishing any of them, no amount of online gaming will fill the void caused by your addiction to video games. I know, because I have one.

Mmmm, I have bought a lot of games for PS3 recently. 4 games in 3 months. 3 out of 4 were exclusives though and I have finished all of them .

 

[Treblaine]

Don't be alarmed Mazty but I totally agree with you (remember me).

L4D is by no standards an exclusive, maybe console exclusive, but you have to admit a game like Left 4 Dead from Valve - who are extremely PC oriented - is a PC title and it was merely ported to 360.

360 has its strengths (mainly XBLA at the moment) but PC still rules the roost for FPS games like L4D. I'd never get L4D for 360, even if my PC was out of action for 3 months I'd play something else like Dead Rising or Uncharted, play to either console's strengths (Yes, I've finally seen the light on Uncharted).

I realise now I have been guilty of fanboyist thinking, it is very hard to deal with, investing hundreds of £ or $ in various machines it affects your ability to reason, you start getting ideological like "Oh, microsoft are the best, Sony can't do anything right" which just makes you blind to where one platform can offer a superior gaming experience.

At the end of the day it is not about brand loyalty but about the games and all of the consoles have great strengths that you have to be honest with yourself about what they have to offer.

I'm glad to see your a bit more reasonable... PC will always be the premiere platform for gaming, but there are people out there such as myself that just prefer to game on a console. Now, can you not agree, that to someone who only likes console gaming, that L4D, Mass Effect and the like would count as 360 exclusive? Does mentioning that they're available on PC seem pretty useless when talking to someone who does not game on PC?

Sorry, but as far as I am concerned PC is as much a gaming platform as PS3, 360 or even the Wii, that means it cannot simply be excluded from consideration.

I'm afraid exclusives are not defined by whether you own or prefer certain platforms but whether anyone COULD play it on which particular platforms.

You can't just go around redefining words of the English language based on your own personal perspective... you need to get REAL.

If you must, call games like L4D "Console-Exclusive for 360" but this whole emphasis on what is exclusive or not is distracting from the issue of
(a)what are the best games and
(b)what are the best way to play them.

If the OP wants my opinion, L4D and L4D2 are not reasons to get a 360 but rather reasons to upgrade to a gaming PC.

There are many other reasons to get a 360, the biggest single one being the unique XBLA games line-up that is so impressive now that Sony better get their arse into gear offering a counter as Microsoft is way ahead on that front.