Music with a meaning

[EMFCRACKSHOT]

songs by my favourite band, Rise Against, and a lot of others i listen to always have a meaning, whether about politics, the environment, relationships or something else. If you ask me, this makes them much better. The artists seem to transfer a lot of their passion that they feel over the issue often making it sound better.
When compared to other music with no meaning such as rap that seems to be all about hookers, guns and killing people or bands like the killers and many pop artists, who's songs make no sense, that just sound plain awfull and that are purely designed to make money i cant understand why people would listen to them.

What do you think?

 

[Mother Yeti]

Meanwhile, I like hip-hop and The Killers, and from what I can find on YouTube, Rise Against sounds like every tuneless alt-rock band I hear whenever I pass by a Hot Topic.

I guess the lesson you should take from this is "taste is subjective."

 

[APPCRASH]

Saying there is no meaning behind rap's portrayal of hookers, guns, and killing people is very short sighted. I personally like songs with no meaning. For example, Green Day was WAY more interesting to listen to when their songs were about smoking, sitting around, and wanking. Now it's all this angsty "I hate the government" bullshit that you hear from every other band.

 

[goatzilla8463]

Eminem's raps have loads of meaning.

 

[LockNstock]

Eminem is a nutcase

 

[Legion]

Meaning is given by the listener. So everyones opinion as to which music has "meaning" for them will be different. Just like any other form of art, its in the eye of the beholder, though in this case its in the ear. Its all opinion either way, there is no right or wrong.

This sums it up nicely.

Although I do agree that songs are better when they have some kind of message/concept besides: "Move ***** get outta the way, get outta the way *****, get outta the way" as people on the internet so lovingly play through their microphones all the time.

 

[Legion]

than: "Move ***** get outta the way, get outta the way *****, get outta the way" as people on the internet so lovingly play through their microphones all the time.

Well clearly there is a woman in his way that he wants to move, its a very clear message to me.

I'm finding it very hard to keep a straight face here. Although I didn't say it wasn't a meaning I said I like songs with a meaning rather than the quotation. I should have said 'besides' to make it clearer.

 

[ThrobbingEgo]

I like songs that are subtle about their meanings - the kind of song that let's you figure out what's really going on - as opposed to the songs that beat you over the head with their message. Though when done right, those songs can be good too.

Songs like I Palindrome I, Space Oddity, and Where The White Boys Dance, as examples, tell stories that you have to pick at a bit, to varying degrees. Those kinds of songs are especially cool.

 

[martin's a madman]

The reason rap has a reputation of hoes and guns is because that is what is popular. Music is a market, and as long as people want to hear that sort of music then companies are going to keep making it. Hip-hop has a lot of good meaning if you look in the right artists all the ones who project negativity are the ones selling millions of records. But be careful where you tread if someone was to condemn mainstream rap because of it's negativity then that person couldn't say that people who condemn video games for being negative are wrong.

 

[Private Custard]

Modern rap is shite. It's embarrasing.

Go way back to the early 90's though, and you'll find stories of everyday life, set to kickass beats. Tupac, Ice Cube and Coolio used to be awesome for that.

 

[TaborMallory]

If you ever look at the lyrics to some of Cradle of Filth's songs (whilst bypassing some of the more... disturbing content), they're really poetic.

Spawned wanton like blight on an auspicious night
Her eyes betrayed spells of the moon's eerie light
A disquieting gaze forever ghosting far seas
Bled white and dead, Her true mother was fed
To the ravenous wolves that the elements led
From crag-jagged mountains that seemingly grew in unease

Through the maw of the woods, a black carriage was drawn
Flanked by barbed lightning that hissed of the storm
(Gilded in crests of Carpathian breed)
Bringing slaves to the sodomite for the new-born
On that eve when the Countess' own came deformed
A tragedy crept to the name Bathory

The entire album this song was on is a concept album based on Elizabeth Bathory.
That's something most bands these days fail to do; actually care about what they're writing.

Also, Dani Filth (the frontman of Cradle of Filth) is a fucking genius.

 

[Pezzer]

The Eels, their lead singer Mark Oliver Everret (Dr. of Physics), nicknamed 'E' has autismand selective memory, also as a child he found his father dead in bed. So as you can guess he has a lot of shit to sing about.

I find all of his music very moving, plus most of it sounds pretty brilliant too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8hyCWH1Ww0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZFLmhFn0mg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Umu-7SAVTg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1ED9ky-ojQ

 

[EMFCRACKSHOT]

If you ever look at the lyrics to some of Cradle of Filth's songs (whilst bypassing some of the more... disturbing content), they're really poetic.

Spawned wanton like blight on an auspicious night
Her eyes betrayed spells of the moon's eerie light
A disquieting gaze forever ghosting far seas
Bled white and dead, Her true mother was fed
To the ravenous wolves that the elements led
From crag-jagged mountains that seemingly grew in unease

Through the maw of the woods, a black carriage was drawn
Flanked by barbed lightning that hissed of the storm
(Gilded in crests of Carpathian breed)
Bringing slaves to the sodomite for the new-born
On that eve when the Countess' own came deformed
A tragedy crept to the name Bathory

The entire album this song was on is a concept album based on Elizabeth Bathory.
That's something most bands these days fail to do; actually care about what they're writing.

Also, Dani Filth (the frontman of Cradle of Filth) is a fucking genius.

Cradle of filth are amazing

 

[Mother Yeti]

Modern rap is shite. It's embarrasing.

Go way back to the early 90's though, and you'll find stories of everyday life, set to kickass beats. Tupac, Ice Cube and Coolio used to be awesome for that.

You do realize that there's more to a given genre than what is played on the radio?

 

[DraftPickle]

Rage Against The Machine anyone? pure, substanial anger and meaning?