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direkiller

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Mazty said:
direkiller said:
Congratulations, you ignored absolutely EVERYTHING I said about hate speech and instead said some idiotic bullsh*t about womens rights, which doesn't make sense as women not having rights is segregation, something I said I'm opposed to, whereas these fanatics are promoting segregation.

Let me highlight the difference as you clearly can't see it. Women rights were women wanting to be equal. Well in a society that wants to promote equality, that seems a good idea to make women have the same rights as men, no?
Now the poppy burning fanatics were not wanting equality, they were saying that dead British soldiers are in hell and are going to go to hell. How in the hell is that helping to promote equality? It is not - it is actually promoting occupational segregation, and segregation is a form of inequality.
Was that really so hard to work out??

Learn to read kid, it may help you in later life, and then go learn about social ethics and philosophy because at the moment you are just spouting ignorance.
You want to remove people from society that you see as inferior(not by race,religon but by idea)
That is segregation

What they were protesting was the war in Afghanistan. They were saying your solders were burning in hell because of what they did to children(They also had pictures of disfigured children).Its there way of going about saying BRING YOUR TROOPS HOME.

People don't have that much hate without a reason.
 

direkiller

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They were not protesting against the War in Afghanistan, they were saying soldiers will burn
From the artical:

Asad Ullah, 23, a spokesman for the group who would only say he was from London, said: "The British soldiers you remember on this day are soldiers who have taken innocent lives in illegal occupations and unjust wars.

He added: "We will do this again. Until the British people condemn the British Government for these illegal wars, we will not stop protesting."

sorry you were saying
 

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Mazty said:
direkiller said:
Mazty said:
They were not protesting against the War in Afghanistan, they were saying soldiers will burn
From the artical:

Asad Ullah, 23, a spokesman for the group who would only say he was from London, said: "The British soldiers you remember on this day are soldiers who have taken innocent lives in illegal occupations and unjust wars.

He added: "We will do this again. Until the British people condemn the British Government for these illegal wars, we will not stop protesting."

sorry you were saying
Are you really that daft? He clearly is stating all dead soldiers have taken innocent lives (yeah, Nazi's were innocent, North Koreans etc) in unjust wars. He is an idiot as he shows zero understanding of the wars and soldiers he is so quick to slander.
Plus, soldiers are doing a job. If he has a problem with Afghanistan, talk to the politicians.

Clearly you are too ignorant/naive to see the occupational segregation that the protest was for, making it a hate speech protest. Legally the protest could be done for hate speech:

"The Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994 inserted Part 4A into the Public Order Act 1986. That part prohibits anyone from causing alarm or distress. Part 4A states:

(1) A person is guilty of an offence if, with intent to cause a person harassment, alarm or distress, he? (a) uses threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or disorderly behaviour, or (b) displays any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening, abusive or insulting, thereby causing that or another person harassment, alarm or distress."

Saying the dead are burning in hell and fighting with police is abusive, insulting and violent behaviour.

So get your head out the sand and realise you have been supporting hate speech. Now go learn the difference between the freedom of speech and hate speech as clearly you think anything goes with the freedom of speech, which is dangerous and exceptionally naive.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/11/11/article-1328703-0C061465000005DC-219_306x738.jpg


Here is another quote:
Asad Ullah, of Muslims Against Crusades, said: ?We are demonstrating because this day is a day of remembrance to remember every single fallen soldier, including those killed in Afghanistan and Iraq.

They clearly don't have a certain wars in mind

Your the one makeing very big assumptions by saying ALL
 

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Mazty said:
direkiller said:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/11/11/article-1328703-0C061465000005DC-219_306x738.jpg


Here is another quote:
Asad Ullah, of Muslims Against Crusades, said: ?We are demonstrating because this day is a day of remembrance to remember every single fallen soldier, including those killed in Afghanistan and Iraq.

They clearly don't have a certain wars in mind

Your the one makeing very big assumptions by saying ALL
Holy sh*t - do you even understand remembrance day??
Plus let me highlight a word in your quoted sentence:
?We are demonstrating because this day is a day of remembrance to remember every single fallen soldier, INCLUDING those killed in Afghanistan and Iraq."

Including=/=exclusively

Now look at this photo:

Does that sign say "British Soldiers burn in hell"?
Does that not fall under the hate speech law of the UK? Why yes, it does.
So congratulations, you've been supporting hate speech. Good for you, good for you sharing the same attitude towards inequality as the KKK, neo-Nazi's etc...
They are protesting two wars you are currently in. Typical ultra liberal to take thing out of context and use half truths(see i can do it too).

They are saying we picked this day because it for remembering those who died in Iraq and Afghanistan. They are mad about kids missing arms in a war they feel you should have never been in. Theirs no signs that say "hitter was right" so stop putting words in there mouth

I hate the KKK but do they have the right to think like that, yes.Do They have the right to march down the street, yes theirs even court cases on it http://www.nytimes.com/1999/10/22/nyregion/court-orders-city-to-allow-protest-by-ku-klux-klan.html .

It goes back to the argument you called a cop-out "Free speech sometimes meens the bad guy wins"

What is normal for a society is subjective. What you view as valuger today may be accepted 20 years from now. Something you hold to be true may be on the chopping block next and you can get arrested for inciting violice because the majority hold the opposite view as you.

if you want to revise the shoes The poppies symbols can be filed under hate speech too because it incites rage in the protesters. As with the signs the intention is irreverent it only matters if it enrages someone to the point of hitting them.


You accused my views of being PC bullshit yet your view is the ultimate PC because you want to ban every idea that offends someone. So everyone is nice and safe in there own little idea bubble.