Muslims clash with police after burning poppy in anti-Armistice Day protest
- Thread starter Buizel91
- Start date
Recommended Videos
I really never understood what actually happened in the middle-east. Something about America and oil....?
The poppy is worn by most western countries on the days leading to and on November 11th to remember the soldiers that died to keep their country's safe in various wars. So burning them is basically spitting on the soldiers who died to protect the values of the country.Stalk3rchief said:
OT: What they did is terrible, but at least nobody left this with any serious injury (I believe? I read the article but I don't think anybody got seriously wounded). I say that the British government should have an announcement something like this :
"Ladies and gentlemen, regarding the group of Islamic protesters on November the eleventh we have this to say. Do not feed the trolls. That is all."
I've found it odd that I've not seen it on the news, but I think the reason is to mainly keep the general public in check. Can you imagine the outroar if this was on the news? The amount of hate crimes that would be committed against any remotely Indian looking?Asturiel said:
It's really awful what they did and it's events like this that just add to the ignorance of people and their uneducated hate of Muslim citizens. But it won't get dealt with, just swept under a rug most likely.
True enough, it's best if the general public doesn't hear this story for the reasons you mentioned. Widespread knowledge of what this group did will do more harm than good...Dear God, any media outlet who wants to stir up some shit basically has a nuke against Islamic people.Azure-Supernova said:
Is there really such thing?MegatonDesign said:
If there was, it would be arbitrary to call the moderates the "true followers" and just brush away the hardcore...If they follow the core texts to the letter, surely they have at least equal claim to the title, logic would dictate they have a greater claim.
I hope you're meaning in a stupid way, and not seriously advocating thatMegatonDesign said:
OT: I'm pretty sure it's been mentioned that these guys are rather die-hard (not literally) Muslims and not representative of the general Muslim populace - frankly it's ridiculous that I should even have to say that but you know what some people are like.
I hate saying this, but i find myself saying it again and again - if they can't respect our people and if they really find us that repulsive, what are they even doing here? Acts like this 'demonstration' are insulting to those who are risking their lives and those who made the ultimate sacrifice for our freedom.
It it were up to me, I'd send them back to their war-torn countries.
It it were up to me, I'd send them back to their war-torn countries.
[The protester] flags bore Arabic writing with the words "There is no God but Allah".
Well, they got half of it right, take off the last two words and that flag is pretty accurate.
OT: Honestly, when any religion goes up in arms about something it just makes me laugh. They're not oppressed, they're not martyring themselves, they're not even dying or fighting for a cause because they barely understand the cause they've been brainwashed into in the first place.
They're brainless idiots who are pissed off that people won't subscribe to their narrow-minded way of thinking and feel like the only way to get attention is to lash out publicly instead of actually coming up with something convincing; like facts.
The memory of my uncle will live on regardless of what symbols you burn, you can't attack my memories of him even if you burned a hundred poppies. Go ahead and burn them, you cowards. I'm not afraid and I never will be, nor will I ever forget. You achieved nothing but proving just what second-rate scum you really are; you're worthy of pity, not anger.
Well, they got half of it right, take off the last two words and that flag is pretty accurate.
OT: Honestly, when any religion goes up in arms about something it just makes me laugh. They're not oppressed, they're not martyring themselves, they're not even dying or fighting for a cause because they barely understand the cause they've been brainwashed into in the first place.
They're brainless idiots who are pissed off that people won't subscribe to their narrow-minded way of thinking and feel like the only way to get attention is to lash out publicly instead of actually coming up with something convincing; like facts.
The memory of my uncle will live on regardless of what symbols you burn, you can't attack my memories of him even if you burned a hundred poppies. Go ahead and burn them, you cowards. I'm not afraid and I never will be, nor will I ever forget. You achieved nothing but proving just what second-rate scum you really are; you're worthy of pity, not anger.
no worse than what i have read about tons of other protest, its actually pretty tame compared to news about western countries, and they have a better reason to be pissed, one thing that does confuse me, a model of a poppy, the flower?, and the chants are pretty innocent too comparing the army invading their home to terrorists, i can see where they are coming from, im not saying that its the right way to protest or show youre displeased but i have seen far worse thing from US and UK, heck we even had some far worse shit going on in Denmark a few years ago, and that was about some teenagers being kicked out of a house that belonged to someone else.
But i must admit the whole burning of symbols have never annoyed me, not even when there where pictures of people burning the Danish flag in the news non stop.
But i must admit the whole burning of symbols have never annoyed me, not even when there where pictures of people burning the Danish flag in the news non stop.
Has it really taken 3 days to get posted here?
OT
... Fuck them cunts. (Thats the short version of what I posted on Facebook 3 days ago)
OT
... Fuck them cunts. (Thats the short version of what I posted on Facebook 3 days ago)
It was probably a few douchebags who thought they were tough shit when they burnt the poppies.
Stupid idiots will never cease to exist.
People are entitled to their own opinion, no matter what it is. I'm also entitled to not give a fuck about provocations.
Stupid idiots will never cease to exist.
That's a very, very tricky thing to say. I hope you know what I mean.Gitty101 said:
I have no intention on burning any poppies whatsoever, but feel free to burn a Qur'an. If you want, I can even give you my pen so you can draw Mohammed, too. People who get a kick out of trying to insult Muslims by doing those two things, will be disappointed when it comes to Muslims like myself.Swollen Goat said:
People are entitled to their own opinion, no matter what it is. I'm also entitled to not give a fuck about provocations.
Free speech goes both ways. THis protest was offensive to many poeple, yet so have been the many anti-muslim protests and laws passed around the globe. Pin pointing this one protest out of its context of today's rampant fear-mongering against Islam, is doing the issue a disservice. Yes, the protest could be said to be in bad taste, but it is but one in a long continuum of offenses purpetrated by muslims and non-muslims over recent years, and arguably over the centuries. And whether the war is a "Crusade" becomes a difficult topic when, though officially the occupation and fighting is said to be to attack "terrorism", it is unofficially but most widely believed to be attacking Islam.
In doing so, the West are striving to occupy the land there, physically, politically, culturally and economically. Were the terror attacks prompted solely by Islam or were they born from political and ecomonic circumstance thus FED through an exploitative HUMAN regime using religion as a weapon? Christianity was the justification for very similar oppression, violence and hate not that long ago, in relative history. Don't suffer any illusions that this was in any way minor. It was atrocious.
What changed was Christianity's removal from State and its elevation to predominantly a religion of wealth and the First World. With this elevation, it lost much of its extremism. Educated, comfortable and healthy people are much happier people. Islam can go through the same metamorphosis. I hope it does, but that's not call for the rest of us to "sit it out" and wait. I'm just getting some perspective here, and the change can't come while tehre's so much hate and vitriol from both camps, and while their respective extremists are muddying the issues, for the balanced and fair majority that want to live their lives in peace.
In doing so, the West are striving to occupy the land there, physically, politically, culturally and economically. Were the terror attacks prompted solely by Islam or were they born from political and ecomonic circumstance thus FED through an exploitative HUMAN regime using religion as a weapon? Christianity was the justification for very similar oppression, violence and hate not that long ago, in relative history. Don't suffer any illusions that this was in any way minor. It was atrocious.
What changed was Christianity's removal from State and its elevation to predominantly a religion of wealth and the First World. With this elevation, it lost much of its extremism. Educated, comfortable and healthy people are much happier people. Islam can go through the same metamorphosis. I hope it does, but that's not call for the rest of us to "sit it out" and wait. I'm just getting some perspective here, and the change can't come while tehre's so much hate and vitriol from both camps, and while their respective extremists are muddying the issues, for the balanced and fair majority that want to live their lives in peace.
It would take vast amounts of effort to offend me. Rest assured you did not do so.Swollen Goat said:
I didn't clarify my statement well enough, though:
This was aimed at you, with a touch of humour.
The rest was aimed at basically everyone.
The poppy is the symbol of remembrance of the those who were killed in war in large chunks of the commonwealth. They also burned the poppies and chanted during a national minutes silence to remember the fallen. In others words they are saying those that died defeating Hitler and the Kaizer and baby murders and aggressors against poor innocent Germans. On other occasions the same organization has disrupted funereal cortages of soldiers killed in Afghanistan. They are deeply unpleasant Islamic fundamentalist organisation who have been banned, when they operated on a different name, for supporting Al Qaeda.Swaki said:
Pretty much. Remembrance Day for me is for WW2, my Granddad, and all those others who fought for our present. Fuck them if they want to desecrate that day.Swollen Goat said:
Probably. Still annoying, especially considering the near diplomatic incident that involved the fucking President of the US when a radical extremist Christian church wanted to burn that book of yours, or the international reaction to that Dutch cartoon. Bloody double standards coming from what is admittedly a far-spanning group beneath the 'Muslim' banner.ActivatorX said:
All that aside, I can actually understand their anger. It was pretty much an illegal war, with illegal breaches of human rights by our side and bombings of many non-military targets. In the end, no-one who gave the orders will pay for their crimes, as only the victors get to hold war crimes tribunals. That's not cool either.