My dog is homicidal, HELP!!!

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Fieldy409_v1legacy

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My dog was like that. I just kept him away from other dogs. If hes small enough to keep control of on a leash you might just have to live with it if nothing works.

Still a great dog he was, we used to play games taking his meat away from him as kids(we didnt realise about the danger of such things), and he wouldnt even growl!
 

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Soushi said:
I recently adopted a young dog (1.75 years) named Storm. He is a great dog for the most part, with one VERY large exception, when he gets around other dogs he goes banana loopy. He is ferocious towards other dogs, instantly trying to fight and bit, and this applies to any size or breed of dog and any size pack (today he went after a collie, two labs, a greyhound/German Sheppard, a Dachshund and a big Sheep dog all at the same time).

Thankfully he is small enough that i can easily pull him along or even pick him up if necessary (he is a small-medium dog, a Spitz Pappilion mix we think). However, i am worried that one day he will pick a fight with a dog that will hurt or kill him, or that he will seriously hurt or kill someone else's dog. He is my first dog and I am in the process of looking up literature to help me correct his behavior, but so far all i have gotten is a couple of useless tricks that so far haven't worked (the whole using my hand to mimic a correcting bite, getting him to sit or lay down, covering his eyes, having one word that is his 'bad dog' word, nothing has worked). He listens to me 99 percent of the time, but when it comes to other dogs its like he changes into a totally different animal.

He is a rescue, so that may explain some of his behavior, but it still isn't acceptable. the weird thing is that he gentle around almost every other kind of animal. Cats, people, mice, birds, he will play with them for a while but he will never hurt them.

Either way, i need to figure out how to change his behavior around other dogs. He is going to hurt himself or someone else eventually. I have even overheard some of the people in my neighborhood saying that they think i abuse him because of his behavior and people now avoid our house. Things simply can't stay the way they are and i need all the help i can get. Any advice would be fantastic and much appreciated.

Thanks again

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He's a rescue. I bet he had to fight other dogs for food or something. You might not be able to correct him. I suggest getting a fenced in yard so you can put him somewhere where he can't get to other dogs.
 

Dogstile

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Get mean. If he's on a leash and he charges another dog, pull back on the leash and hold the part of the leash that's closest to his body so he can't move. Wait until he calms down.

Worked for my dog. Then again, my dog responded to "oi, bellend" so I might not have the best advice.
 

BlessedPaper

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I have a dog (named bobby) and he is a small dog and does the same thing, though he is 10 so he is to old to chase dogs lol... though i don't know any advice i can give sorry
 

dmase

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Well the biggest thing is he probably wasn't socialized with other dogs well. I'd go to a trainer to fix it.

You could try correcting it on your own if you had a friend with a dog and get him used to it. You know correcting his behavior every time he so much as whimpers when he sees the dog the problem is your going to have to make him WANT to socialize with dogs in a way that does involve biting. If you can get him to stop reacting to the other dog on sight even putting them close to one another will set him off and now they are less then a foot away from one another. And whose to say this will carry over to other dogs and not just that one? I had two Siberian huskies that would occasionally fight but if the male got near another dog he wouldn't stop until the other dog was dead. So i'd go with a trainer or keep him away from other dogs, that is the safest route.
 

Kefo

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Try a trainer but shop around first and make sure they have experience with aggressive/undersocialized dogs. Some dogs can't be trained out of their agression tho and you will have to either muzzle it or avoid taking it for walks during times when other dogs are out.
 

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Ugh, you have a little rat dog... Sorry, but I call any small over-aggressive yappy dog that.

You had stated that it was a rescued and could be a cause. That may be so, but also you need to keep in mind that dogs are social animals that compete for dominance. Your dog does not know it's place apparently. Also, at the risk of sounding condescending toward your dog, I think it may also be the breed. It always seems like there are many more small overly-aggressive dogs than there are larger ones.

Maybe it's some kind of psychotic dog version of Napoleon complex?
 

Soushi

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bruggs said:
Good advice given so far. All I can add is that he's technically not homicidal, since that would mean he kills humans.

Yes, it makes me a twat to point that out, but hey, I'm sure somebody will find it interesting maybe.
To be honest, i couldn't think of any other catchy tag lines that would get people to click and contribute, that's why it is kind of hyperbole... and incorrect.
 

Kuroji

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SilentCom said:
It always seems like there are many more small overly-aggressive dogs than there are larger ones.

Maybe it's some kind of psychotic dog version of Napoleon complex?
It's very rarely the breed. With small dogs, it's usually because they get coddled more for being cute. they get away with things that a bigger dog wouldn't.

OT: Find a trainer as soon as you can. I'd recommend a positive reinforcement based one to start. (It's more likely a lack of socialising than dominance; I'm not saying it is though, since I don't know your dog) Try and keep track of how close he gets before he starts this behaviour too - if you can keep him past that point.
 

Soushi

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SilentCom said:
Ugh, you have a little rat dog... Sorry, but I call any small over-aggressive yappy dog that.

You had stated that it was a rescued and could be a cause. That may be so, but also you need to keep in mind that dogs are social animals that compete for dominance. Your dog does not know it's place apparently. Also, at the risk of sounding condescending toward your dog, I think it may also be the breed. It always seems like there are many more small overly-aggressive dogs than there are larger ones.

Maybe it's some kind of psychotic dog version of Napoleon complex?
he was rescued from a dog hoarder, 4 dogs food for 1. I have the teeny tiniest suspicion that that may be a part of it. However, the fact remains that his behavior is unacceptable. His breed is just a best guess, as the person who owned him first destroyed his paperwork (if there was any to begin with). I personally htink he does have something a little bigger and more aggressive somewhere in his heritage. As for the 'rat dog' thing, well... he definitely is a little smaller than i was looking for originally, but he still comes up to my knees and has some pretty impressive strength.

TsunamiWombat said:
I'm certainly not going to mock you for asking for help, because hey! Asking for help is a good thing! This is kind of an odd place to do it though.
As i said, I am just trying everywhere, casting my nets everywhere in search of a solution on the off chance one out of the thousnads will be what i am looking for. Publications are great, but they aren't really tailor made to fit the situation, more of a broad spectrum, whereas personal experience seems to be a little more useful. Besides, i like the escapist community, some very smart people reside here.

TheDarkEricDraven said:
Have you tried diving into his mind to see what ails him? Perhaps have a mental battle with his dark side?
Tried and failed, all i got were alternating calls for food, for pets, for walks and for something to fuck (not all that different then when i delve into a human mind really).
 

Soushi

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Raggedstar said:
jumjalalabash said:
Watch Dog Whisperer then repeat on your dog
*siren goes off*

Regardless of my opinions on that guy, there is a warning that says "Don't do this at home". They say that for good reason judging by how many times he gets bitten even on camera.
I actually tried some of the stuff from there, didn't work one tiny bit. Dogs are smarter than that, they have their own personality and souls and human level sentience sometimes seems like a very short hop skip and a jump for them ( i personally think they are much closer to human level intellect than cats are.) Besides, from what i understand, most of the problems this guy tackles seem to be the dog thinking they are the ones that get to call the shots, that their owners are there to cater to them.
Storm knows i am his master 99 percent of the time, he knows that he has to impress me, not vice versa. I don;t let him eat until i've had my breakfast, if i open the door he waits until i say it is okay for him to go out and he isn't allowed up on the bed until i invite him up. To quote "I don't take him for a walk, i am the one going on a walk and he just happens to have been lucky enough to be brought along" (at the risk of sounding like an authoritarian bellend). He is a good dog, but when another dog is about, that all goes out the window. it would be like if you computer switched from windows 7 to windows XP everytime you pressed the "Capslock" key, his personality fundamentally shifts.
 

IkeGreil29

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My cousins had three Labradors. One was a coward, one a follower and one the leader. They killed a shitload of dogs. All I can tell you is avoid other dogs, show him love, and if it looks like he might have a confrontation, GTFO. These dogs are very nice pets, but their primal instincts are very hardwired into their skulls. It's nearly impossible to get rid of all the angst it feel towards others. You might want to go to a dog psychologist, those exist. My grandma's yorkie was given to one before she died, and now no longer has any of the jealousy and bad habits it had. They can REALLY help. Especially if they have a lot of dogs, it forces them to interact and be part of the group.

Edit: To further elaborate, the Yorkie used to bite at the vet and like you described looked for confrontations with other dogs and such, which my bulldog never has done.
 

dertyqwerty

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Crude but, is the dog neutered?

Un-neutered male dogs are usually very aggressive, then once they get "fixed" they're just fine.