My father is disallowing me to see my girlfriend.

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TopHatsaur

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Hello, Escapists. How are you doing today? Sadly, I have been rather upset lately.

I am 14 years old, and two months ago, from some elaborate miracle, a friendship at school developed into a relationship, in fact, my very first relationship. She was - or, is - an incredibly sweet, funny and downright beautiful girl who I am convinced I adore more than anything. My thoughts are not shared by my father, however.

You see, at first he was proud of me. I was no longer bound to a computer, I was leaving the house with her and her friends and actually enjoying my life, compared to countless hours of roleplaying on World of Warcraft that I did previously. He had met her several times, and seemed to like her.

Although, he started to express concerns after I returned home often past my curfew of 7, sometimes at 7:30, sometimes even later. Not on purpose, but due to the unorganized planning of a teenager ('Let's go this way, it's much faster!'). I often texted him my location and informed him that I'd be late, and I'd return home with the usual punishment, that being grounded from my computer for the rest of the evening. I didn't complain.

This began to persist, however. My dad began believing that maybe it is not I who is the reason for coming home late, but my girlfriend and her friends for dragging me around places I shouldn't be that are too far from home, or too dangerous. I am not a bad kid, y'see. I do not steal, nor do I drink nor smoke. My girlfriend does not do this, either, although her friends often attempt to peer-pressure her into doing so. I convince her not to.

One fateful evening, her, 2 of her friends are I decided to take yet another 'short-cut'. It was not my idea, and I was very much against it, but because I was new to that area I took her word for it. We ended up treading through an unknown field, scattered with sheep. That is when I realised that, once again, I'd be late. I texted this to my dad, and requested that he picks me up at her house to prevent further lateness. He agreed, and by 7:20 I made it to her house and was surely collected. That's when my dad said:

'You're not seeing that girl again.'

At first, I did not take him seriously. But that's when he began to take my computer away when he caught me Skyping her, and punishing me further if I spoke to her at school. He WAS, as I dreaded, being serious. I'd ask him why, but the only answer I'd receive is what you'd expect from any parent, such as 'It's for your own good', or 'I'm not enjoying this, either'.

For a week now, I have only seen my girlfriend at school, having to return straight home afterwards. She always seems upset, or merely void of emotion, anytime I see her, and her eyes always appear red and drooped, from what I assume is crying. We attempted asking anyone we could for help, ranging from teachers to parents, but so far none have offered any advice. We both feel so hopeless in this battle against my father.

He is a stubborn man, and he does NOT give in. The only way you can convince him, or change his opinion, is if he deems it as right. I have not seen him once in my life admit that he is wrong. I know what he is doing is because he fears for my safety, but he refuses to judge my girlfriend from anything other than what he's heard. He will not give her even the chance to speak to him, and nothing I do can convince him that she is not the 'horrible influence' that he is fooled into believing.

I do not want to lose her. I can't. Although I am young, and have not lived very long, I had never been happier in my life than when I was dating her. And so, in a desperate plea for help, I turn to you, Escapists.

I tell her everyday that things are going to be fine, and I will find a way to still see her, but I fear that I might be giving both of us false hope. I don't know what to do. I have not once disobeyed my father, and nor do I want to, but that might be what I have to resort to if he refuses to let me love. But I know that such would just lead to more shit.

People tell me I should 'Stand up to him!', but I'm unsure what that means. Yelling at him won't help a thing, and he is already aware that he is making my life misery. I can't speak to anyone about it, because he is just doing a parental duty. People say it isn't, but much to my loath, this IS within his rites. I can't take it.

Maybe you strangers on the internet can offer me aid, either in forms of motivation or advice. If you took the effort to read this far, thank you.
 

hazabaza1

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Ask if she can come home after school maybe? Have dinner at yours with her or something, let him form a better opinion.
Maybe ask if he can assign a strict curfew and if he does explain to your girlfriend that you need to be home when he says for both of you.

It's hard being younger with parents that aren't lenient, but it seems like he's just concerned for you, even if he is being somewhat... aggressive with it. Not sure if what I say will help, but hopefully something does. All the best.
 

manic_depressive13

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The way I see it if your parents' opinions factor into any of the decisions you make about your personal life, you're not old enough to be dating.

To be fair though, if it were me I would just explain to my parent that unless they gave me a satisfactory reason for refusing to let me see my partner, I would simply stop listening to them. The way your father is treating you is not how anyone should treat another human being. You are young but you're no longer a child. He has no right to expect blind obedience, and you should explain to him that he is alienating you by being so unreasonable, and if your girlfriend becomes a bad influence on you, he made it a self-fulfilling prophecy by setting arbitrary and excessive restrictions.

The above is the opinion of someone who came from a broken and abusive home environment. It was easy for me to disobey my parents because they already fucking hated me.
 

MrCollins

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x-Tomfoolery-x said:
Feel free to call me an old man, but I think 14 is too young to be dating. I'm inclined to agree with your father. Not that you shouldn't be friends with this girl, or hang out. But a serious relationship doesn't seem appropriate for your age. I'd recommend slowing down. Wait a couple of years. I'm sure you'll have plenty of time for that in the future.
At that age, at least where I grew up (not personal experience, since my first gf was when I was 17, but friends)when you are 14, a gf is just a girl you talk to a lot and make out with. The idea that it's a committed relationship seems a bit laughable to me.

OT: Arguing won't do you much good, my advice is this: Take as many deep breaths as you can to contain any chance of snapping at him if he says something upsetting about her and ask him why specifically he doesn't want you to see her. Hear him out in full, then try to calmly refute his points.
If that fails, you can always yell "I hate you, you're the worst dad ever!" and storm into your room.

Also, doesn't a curfew of 7:30 strike people a little early?
 

TheRightToArmBears

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I'm not sure this is any use (you didn't mention a mother at all) but can you talk to your mum about it? Adults always seem to have a habit of ignoring kids' opinions, is there anyone you can talk to that might have a bit more sway over him than you?
 

Lilani

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MrCollins said:
Also, doesn't a curfew of 7:30 strike people a little early?
I thought the same thing, too. I was sort of a homebody during gradeschool so a set curfew wasn't really necessary for me, but I remember for my brother it was usually around 9 or 10. A little after dark, but still early enough to get a good night's sleep before school.

Though I feel like your dad might be pulling the leash a bit tight, especially since you have a history of being a good kid, I'm inclined to agree with the general consensus here. You're young, you have plenty of time to grow up and get to a point where your dad doesn't have so much control over your personal life. When things cool off, ask him about ways you can hang out with her that he would approve of. I have a feeling the thing he's the most worried about is you being with her alone with no adults anywhere near the vicinity, so maybe just work something out where you spend time at her house, or she spends time at your house. Someplace where he knows where you are, he knows adults are nearby, and he knows you aren't driving around God knows where getting lost.
 

Trueflame

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You're 14, why is your curfew 7? Is it even dark at that time during the summer? In any case, I just don't see a legitimate reason for it unless you're in a particularly dangerous area, are missing meals, falling behind in school, or something else of that sort. You texted your dad and told him where you were and that you'd be late, which is considerably more than most people do, and in any case any moral superiority that he had was lost when he started demanding that you come home immediately after school.

My advice is, talk to your dad. Do so calmly, don't rise to any provocation, don't even raise your voice. Concede that you were out of line by coming home so late (easier than arguing with him about everything, even if it is too early), but say that you need some amount of freedom and can't be expected to come home immediately after school every single day. And then from there just gradually over time push boundaries.

By the way, when did 7 start being your curfew? Because if it's been that way for a while, it might be time for the "I'm growing up" speech and get it pushed back. It sounds like your dad might appreciate you trying to change his rules, but operating within them.
 

Goofguy

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Is it possible at all to spend time with her at your place? From what I glean from your story, it seems like you're always out with her and her friends.

Rather than confront your father about your girlfriend, maybe try seeing if you can extend your curfew. It seems a bit odd for a 14 year old to have to be back by 7.
 

Brown Cap

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It might not sound great, but most of these guys have the right idea.
Your father, although perhaps a bit strict and heavy handed, is just trying to look out for you the best way he knows.
You are young (yes, it's a stupid thing to hear and blame things on) We've all been in that point in our lives.

Is that even high school? There will be days in your life a bit farther on that you will look back and laugh or wince at moments like these. I know I have.

For now, listen to your dad. Maybe apologize to him, too (even if you don't entirely mean it - it's the sentiment that counts.)
You have to roll with the punches and pick your battles. This is one to let go.
 

renegade7

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Don't argue with your parents, you're too young to pull that off xD Once you're 16 or 17, you'll know how to beat them in an argument. Until then, just pick your battles.

It sounds to me like your parents are more concerned with the time you're spending out at night. Maybe try spending time in with her at your house and letting them get to know and trust her?

Also, when my parents got like this in high school it was due to my grades. Maybe try spending some more time on homework and letting them know they can trust you?
 

rutger5000

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Hi I'm woody I'm 22 and from the Netherlands. Just wanted to give you some info so you can place my comment into contest.
Many people would dissagree with this, but you sound mature enough to make your own decissions. Well maybe not mature and maybe not decissions, and more like puberety and mistakes. But hey you're supposed to be into puberty and mistakes now. The mistakes you don't make now you'll make them latter. I was much to passive during my teenage years, and I missed out on lots and lots of experiences.
Try and talk with your father, don't be afraid to argue, don't be afraid to be stubborn. As long as you don't make big mistakes such as drugs or unprotected sex, you'll be fine.
I've got my experience with unreasonable parrents, but like I said I was way too passive, so I didn't really argue with them. So I can't give you any real advice on that front. Maybe you can make some arrangement with him. Agreeing not to be home late anymore, or stuff like that? Or if he is always right in his opinion, play into that. Say that he's probably right, but you want to learn that from yourself.
Also it sounds like your girlfriend is upset. Be a good boyfriend and cheer her up :D
 

funkyjiveturkey

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on an unrelated note. it's always very good to see kids your age on the internet speaking with proper spelling, grammer, punctuation, and structure.

on a related note, you seem to be handling this in a decently mature fashion, more than i could've done at your age. maybe "Standing up" to your dad isn't just yelling at him or trying to "Lay down the law", but just sit him down and talk man to man. My girlfriend has has problems like this, her parents are strict christians though whose lifestyle she doesn't agree with, but she still tries to sit down and talk it through.

sit him down, make sure both your phones are off, no distractions, is he tries to walk away do everything you can to make sure he stays and listens. it doesn't make sense for a boy your age to not only be so guarded over (as i'm pretty sure you know how to handle yourself in the world), and it especially doesn't make sense the time of your curfew. 7PM? what is that? you're in highschool now, you need more time per day to experience these things and get used to the lifestyle and culture.

these points aside though, it serves no purpose for him to keep you two apart, and if he at least realizes that he should do something about it. it just seems to me like irrational over-protection from an imaginary threat to your well-being. you should calmly explain that his logic makes no sense, you're a teenager and have to find out everything for yourself, and that REALLY, being a teenager you'll ALWAYS find ways to see and talk to each other regardless of his attitude.
 

TopHatsaur

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The situation has been resolved. Thank you all for giving me such grand advice and support - thanks to you, I can continue to see my girlfriend.