My Gaming Brethern, we must unite...

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Hectix777

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My fellow gamers, this may sound like some corny speech and some of you may say that it is, but that's not what this is about. This about OUR power: our power to try, re-evaluate, and succeed; our power to use our minds and experience in games to solve problems in reality;our power of determined will and perseverance, our ability to never surrender until we capture that flag, nuke those zerg, or kill that optional boss. But most importantly, our power over the publishers. Yes, WE have power over them, not the other way around. We as consumers are in control for we are the precious life-blood of the publishers of Valve, EA, Square-Enix and even Ubisoft. WE control the success of a game, and how it will live on in the memories of others and more importantly, how developers can see their flaws from their project and improve on them in order to appease our desires. Publishers have been fair to us, in an almost loving relationships. They give us memorable titles that we still speak of, even if they are over 30 years old, though this is not always the case.

Publishers use our fandom to their advantage, and don't pretend you don't know what I mean. They tease with promises of titles we love and wish to see remade or given a sequel in order for us to stay loyal to them, and appease their diet of printed salad. Many of us have desired to see a return of the popular Final Fantasy 7 game remade in glorious 3-D and HD quality, but we have never seen it surface. We are told that the developers would," explore the idea," and tease us with fake screen-shots of a project that solely exists as bait-and-hook for us gamers and to ensure that they still have power over us and ensure that we will follow them. Valve, creators of probably the greatest system of purchasing, storing, and playing games, have promised an Episode 3 to our Half-Life series. We get teased and mocked with surprises, so many of us at E3 2010 wished that the surprise was the fabled and desired third installment only to be replaced by the acclaimed Portal sequel, Portal 2. In so many games, so many things are left unanswered, left untouched, and yet the publishers use the unanswered questions and your desire to find the conclusion by releasing what looks like your sequel just to give you hope and keep the publishers coffers nice and full. SO where does our power play into this? Simple if we are the blood that keeps publishers fully sustained and healthy, what if we were to stop flowing? What if we refuse to feed the beast his daily appetite of printed salad? What if we unite and boycott?

I know, boycotting sounds like too much work for what may go unnoticed and treated as a nuisance by major publishers, but it WILL work. The feminist movement began as protests and petitions amongst middle-class women for simple rights to vote and have equal rights, now Hilary Clinton is Secretary of the State and women leading the way in fields of science, humanitarian aid, and wildlife preservation. We all know the recent boycott of Left 4 Dead 2 was at first something we looked at and thought," What?" but in the end Valve showed the members of the boycott the improvements in L4D2 and were extremely pleased. Not to mention the boycotting of the tea at Boston harbor, i.e. the Boston Tea Party, the even that led to the Revolutionary War, The Declaration of Independence, and the foundation of the United States of America! We, the people are, are the power of tyrants, business, and technological revolution! We are the blood of the publishers, WE decide to buy their product, WE decide whether to feed the publishers or not. If we want to see REAL proof of Half Life 2 Episode:3, refuse Valve their sum. If you want to see the nostalgic Final Fantasy VII in 3D and HD, stop flowing within the heart of Square-Enix and make them bend to your will.

For the publishers do not have power over us, WE have power over them.

If we desire what we desire, let us starve our suppliers. Let's make them realize that WE don't serve them money, they serve us good games that we want. That WE are in charge, not them.
 

HT_Black

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Question: Can you maybe do something to adress the general apathy present in your proposal; and as such, the minds of your audience? Because while it's a lovely speech, I'm not really inspired or convinced.
 

Neverhoodian

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I agree with the basic concept of your proposal. Companies are trying to make a profit after all (not a bad thing in and of itself), and boycotting can be a powerful way for consumers to indicate their dissatisfaction with a company's policies. If enough consumers join the boycott, companies are given incentive to change their ways due to decreasing revenue.

There's no way in hell you're going to make me boycott Valve though. Sure it takes them forever to release a product, but I don't mind because I know said product will be of the utmost quality. They are also one of the few major developers out there that genuinely listens to their customers. Finally, they made Team Fortress 2, also known as the best online game ever made.

I save my boycotts for companies that have truly repugnant and dickish policies, such as Activision (only interested in IP you can "exploit" yearly? Well fuck you too, Mr. Kotick.)
 

emeraldrafael

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Yeah... no. Thats arlgiht. See, contrary to what most people like to think, Games are a company, and companies are companies like to make MONEY!

So they dont care about us.
 

Radeonx

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So why am I boycotting the publishers?
Because you don't like the games that are coming out, and want the companies to make games that you want?
I think things are quite fine, to be honest with you.
 

Thaluikhain

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Remember the L4D2 boycott, and how that turned out?

I don't see anything useful happening.

On the other hand, on a personal level, if you were to stop buying games from companies that make games you don't like, well...
 

lacktheknack

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Unfortunately, I was left entirely unimpressed by your pretty little speech, meaning it was an entire waste.

You can say "It will work" all you like, but wishing doesn't make it so. Because you CANNOT arrange an effective boycott amongst an apathetic group that's spread all across the world, it just can't be done. Not that you had any chance, because that post was incredibly derivative, boring, uninspiring and unoriginal that it was doomed to fail from conception.
 

Dogstile

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Reading this, all I could think was...

Lol, you want to boycott a company that never releases games?

But seriously, no, they're doing just fine. Everyone wants me to spend my money their way lately, its getting annoying.
 

Neverhoodian

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thaluikhain said:
Remember the L4D2 boycott, and how that turned out?

I don't see anything useful happening.
That's a big part of the problem, I feel. People get all indignant and up-in-arms about something a game company has done, yet they cave and buy the game anyway when it's released. Why? Because they don't want to sacrifice their oh-so-precious luxury entertainment, no sir!

If people truly cared, they would be willing to make the necessary sacrifices.
 

Mcface

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MW2 boycotted: broke sales records anyway

L4D2 boycotted: sold more than original
 
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The Boston Tea Party? I seem to remember that as being the time when America gave a big fuck you and middle finger to my country. Not the first, and certainly not the last. All my support left... well actually it left sometime in the first paragraph but by the end I was laughing pretty hard so you provoked a response at least.

What's your plan? How are you going about implementing it? How will you rally the gamers of the world, a group well known for its schisms and internal conflict, into uniting against anything, let alone a subject so broad as 'boycott all publishers'? At best you'll get a tiny group of utterly hardcore gamers, but the majority of the profits of the big publishers, I'm willing to bet, come from the casual crowd, who you probably wouldn't find online very often, and even if you did wouldn't listen to you because they'd be too bust trolling on youtube.

In the end your grand plan can amount at best in only one thing, a group of hardcore gamers stop buying games, disadvantage themselves and eventually leave your group, while the publishers don't feel a thing because you haven't convinced any of their core profit groups. At worst you'll just remain a single voice adding to the inordinate amounts of yelling going on on the internet.
 

RedEyesBlackGamer

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Idealistic post is idealistic. This apathetic person is still apathetic. The "hardcore" sect of our culture is now the vast minority. What you are proposing can't work because of that.
 

Hectix777

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Sober Thal said:
"The sky is falling! The sky is falling!
Let us not buy a game until someone on an internet forum says it's perfect!
Rally to the ending of our illusions, and that games are good only if fanboys say so!!!!
Sales numbers mean nothing! Only the minority of hardcore gamers matter!"

This isn't what the OP said, but I'll be damned if that's what it sounded like to me!
I'm not asking for perfect games from publishers. I'm just asking that they put up or shut up. Saying a man is guilty or murder is nothing unless you have the smoking gun. HL:2 E:3 has just been concept art, bits of plot, and Gabe Newell taunting us with, "surprises." I'm not saying,"make them now," I'm saying if your giving us bait-and-hook, let us see us. If you hook us, publishers need to reel us in with cold hard evidence of its existence. Evidence so true you could smack someone in the face with it and they know it's real. I mean, if you make a great movie and say there will be a sequel, but you said that 10 years ago, let us know if you're giving it up and not make think your dragging your heels or just using the sequel to make consumers buy/rent the first movie or memorabilia to the first movie just to line his coffers.
 

Evilpigeon

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I'm going to take you seriously even though I echo the sentiments of many other people in this thread.

Why the hell would you want to boycott other worthy titles made by these companies in protest because they didn't give you quite what you wanted. You aren't protesting that they are releasing other games, you're protesting that they aren't releasing a specific game. Throwing a temper tantrum and refusing to buy perfectly good offerings as I'm sure titles such as Portal 2 are going to be is rather immature and not directly related to your agenda.

If you feel this strongly, organise a petition, positive methods are more appropriate boycotting should be reserved for cases where you want to hurt a company, as opposed to just getting them to release something you want.
 

Something Amyss

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Hectix777 said:
My fellow gamers, this may sound like some corny speech and some of you may say that it is, but that's not what this is about. This about OUR power: our power to try, re-evaluate, and succeed; our power to use our minds and experience in games to solve problems in reality;our power of determined will and perseverance, our ability to never surrender until we capture that flag, nuke those zerg, or kill that optional boss. But most importantly, our power over the publishers. Yes, WE have power over them, not the other way around. We as consumers are in control for we are the precious life-blood of the publishers of Valve, EA, Square-Enix and even Ubisoft. WE control the success of a game, and how it will live on in the memories of others and more importantly, how developers can see their flaws from their project and improve on them in order to appease our desires. Publishers have been fair to us, in an almost loving relationships. They give us memorable titles that we still speak of, even if they are over 30 years old, though this is not always the case.

Publishers use our fandom to their advantage, and don't pretend you don't know what I mean. They tease with promises of titles we love and wish to see remade or given a sequel in order for us to stay loyal to them, and appease their diet of printed salad. Many of us have desired to see a return of the popular Final Fantasy 7 game remade in glorious 3-D and HD quality, but we have never seen it surface. We are told that the developers would," explore the idea," and tease us with fake screen-shots of a project that solely exists as bait-and-hook for us gamers and to ensure that they still have power over us and ensure that we will follow them. Valve, creators of probably the greatest system of purchasing, storing, and playing games, have promised an Episode 3 to our Half-Life series. We get teased and mocked with surprises, so many of us at E3 2010 wished that the surprise was the fabled and desired third installment only to be replaced by the acclaimed Portal sequel, Portal 2. In so many games, so many things are left unanswered, left untouched, and yet the publishers use the unanswered questions and your desire to find the conclusion by releasing what looks like your sequel just to give you hope and keep the publishers coffers nice and full. SO where does our power play into this? Simple if we are the blood that keeps publishers fully sustained and healthy, what if we were to stop flowing? What if we refuse to feed the beast his daily appetite of printed salad? What if we unite and boycott?

I know, boycotting sounds like too much work for what may go unnoticed and treated as a nuisance by major publishers, but it WILL work. The feminist movement began as protests and petitions amongst middle-class women for simple rights to vote and have equal rights, now Hilary Clinton is Secretary of the State and women leading the way in fields of science, humanitarian aid, and wildlife preservation. We all know the recent boycott of Left 4 Dead 2 was at first something we looked at and thought," What?" but in the end Valve showed the members of the boycott the improvements in L4D2 and were extremely pleased. Not to mention the boycotting of the tea at Boston harbor, i.e. the Boston Tea Party, the even that led to the Revolutionary War, The Declaration of Independence, and the foundation of the United States of America! We, the people are, are the power of tyrants, business, and technological revolution! We are the blood of the publishers, WE decide to buy their product, WE decide whether to feed the publishers or not. If we want to see REAL proof of Half Life 2 Episode:3, refuse Valve their sum. If you want to see the nostalgic Final Fantasy VII in 3D and HD, stop flowing within the heart of Square-Enix and make them bend to your will.

For the publishers do not have power over us, WE have power over them.

If we desire what we desire, let us starve our suppliers. Let's make them realize that WE don't serve them money, they serve us good games that we want. That WE are in charge, not them.
Collectively, we are a bunch of petty, entitled shits.

We control the success of titles, but we are never going to band together and fight the power. Not when ZOMG SHINY AMAZING PROMISES can sucker us every time because we really, really want it....

They know how to hit the collective.