My head hurts AKA Huniepop discussion
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As someone who actually bought the game when it came out on Steam, I can say it's a lot of fun, and while certainly not for everyone, I see no issues with it.
It's NOT a VN at all, and while some people have tagged it as such, it is not intended to be. There's no real plot here. It's a puzzle match-3 game with dating sim elements (not a true dating sim).
Visual Novels already tend to be a niche thing, they aren't going to really get any wider appeal than they already have, and I highly doubt anyone who would otherwise want to play a Visual Novel would be put off by the presence of sexually gratuitous ones.
I dislike gore but I don't put off all action games because some have gore.
The criticism people make for "VNs being a juvenile medium for lonely otakus to make out with their waifus" is in itself extremely immature and those making those claims wouldn't play VNs even if the ecchi ones didn't exist.
Bottom line is there's no issue here, I for one am glad to see a wider audience of games being accepted into mainstream distributors. There's actually quite a lot of good games that are marketed towards adults that are sexually explicit but nonetheless remain "GOOD GAMES" and the audience they could reach is often hampered by the lack of support from distributors. I think the only audience affected are the ones who actually want to play this kind of game now can. I honestly never heard of HuniePop before it came to steam, and I bought it day one because I loved the concept of it, and I don't regret that purchase at all.
It's NOT a VN at all, and while some people have tagged it as such, it is not intended to be. There's no real plot here. It's a puzzle match-3 game with dating sim elements (not a true dating sim).
Visual Novels already tend to be a niche thing, they aren't going to really get any wider appeal than they already have, and I highly doubt anyone who would otherwise want to play a Visual Novel would be put off by the presence of sexually gratuitous ones.
I dislike gore but I don't put off all action games because some have gore.
The criticism people make for "VNs being a juvenile medium for lonely otakus to make out with their waifus" is in itself extremely immature and those making those claims wouldn't play VNs even if the ecchi ones didn't exist.
Bottom line is there's no issue here, I for one am glad to see a wider audience of games being accepted into mainstream distributors. There's actually quite a lot of good games that are marketed towards adults that are sexually explicit but nonetheless remain "GOOD GAMES" and the audience they could reach is often hampered by the lack of support from distributors. I think the only audience affected are the ones who actually want to play this kind of game now can. I honestly never heard of HuniePop before it came to steam, and I bought it day one because I loved the concept of it, and I don't regret that purchase at all.
Why would it? It's not a visual novel, or anything even close. If anything it's closer to a low complexity dating sim + bejeweled clone. If you want something that makes visual novels look "bad," then there's a ton of nukige out there that'll do the job. Huniepop is as much a visual novel as Mass Effect is.Izanagi009 said:
Yeah, I'm starting to realize that this game is gameplay first and narrative second compared to a VN which is the other way around.Scars Unseen said:
As for nukige, I will hammer on them for as long as I live but as long as stuff like Yumi Miru Kusuri gets made, I will still hold some hope for this genre
I hated it at first, but then I grew to like it at least a little.
The puzzle aspect is certainly fun, and even challenging. There was a point after 2 hours of playing however that I FINALLY found out that you could upgrade your traits and...then the game became a cakewalk. I still fail here and there when I don't pay attention to the broken heart pieces, but overall upgrading traits makes the game a breeze.
The girls in the game certainly do have varied personalities, but they're a bit overplayed. An early twenties girl with a bitchy attitude and is all about partying, drugs, stealing, and general misconduct? That you can gift drugs to win over? Yeah, certainly not my real world type. But oddly enough she was the first girl I got to the end of the relationship with. I don't know...I think ever so slightly seeing her attitude towards me shift to be more pleasant kept my coming back.
Overall though, the writing is quite childish, with teenaged angst swearing thrown in there for comedic effect. It's rather jarring at first. And the whole food thing? I get why it's there (to keep you from grinding Hunie from a single girl in a short amount of time), but I found it annoying. "Sorry, can't talk. Buy me food. Place food in mouth please."
However with the whole gameplay bit, I do find myself much more invested than something like Nekopara. Nekopara was a cute (and slightly creepy) story, but I the interaction was no more than flipping a page in a book.
The puzzle aspect is certainly fun, and even challenging. There was a point after 2 hours of playing however that I FINALLY found out that you could upgrade your traits and...then the game became a cakewalk. I still fail here and there when I don't pay attention to the broken heart pieces, but overall upgrading traits makes the game a breeze.
The girls in the game certainly do have varied personalities, but they're a bit overplayed. An early twenties girl with a bitchy attitude and is all about partying, drugs, stealing, and general misconduct? That you can gift drugs to win over? Yeah, certainly not my real world type. But oddly enough she was the first girl I got to the end of the relationship with. I don't know...I think ever so slightly seeing her attitude towards me shift to be more pleasant kept my coming back.
Overall though, the writing is quite childish, with teenaged angst swearing thrown in there for comedic effect. It's rather jarring at first. And the whole food thing? I get why it's there (to keep you from grinding Hunie from a single girl in a short amount of time), but I found it annoying. "Sorry, can't talk. Buy me food. Place food in mouth please."
However with the whole gameplay bit, I do find myself much more invested than something like Nekopara. Nekopara was a cute (and slightly creepy) story, but I the interaction was no more than flipping a page in a book.
I watched Bible Black for the story, I swear. Yeah.NuclearKangaroo said:
...On second thought, what's Bible Black? NEVER HEARD OF IT.
Kyu's dialogue in this game is too good. And I've barely spent any time playing.
The writing is pretty dang base. As someone who funded the game and has actually played through it all already (not a long game in retrospect on normal) its clear where the effort went. When they said gameplay first they meant it. Yes its another match three system but I've never seen one where you can move a piece along a whole row or column. It actually makes you think as you could accidentally cause things to get much worse instead of better which I've done on numerous occasions.Izanagi009 said:
The girls in all honesty are walking tropes and they don't really develop much. Initially they are either hostile or annoyed at you (except Audrey who is always hostile) but after a question or two each time you meet them its pretty much the same up until you "win" them. Still if Huniepop hadn't met one of its stretch goals this game would've fallen so flat for me. One of the goals was to have it all voice acted and save for Nikki every single one of them sells it with Kyu, Audrey, Aiko, and Jessie being the outstanding ones of the bunch. Heck Kyu's character is pretty dang juvenile. Though its a fun kind of juvenile.
The puzzle element is actually a kind of interesting metaphor when I started thinking about it. I haven't played other dating sims but I imagine the dating part consists of dialogue maneuvers to "win". When you think about it dating really is a puzzle. Simple at first but harder as time goes on so you got to figure out the best way to solve the harder puzzles. Better than trying to memorize and maneuver dialog.
There's a saying in WHFB, everything flows down the Stir.Solkard said:
Well you could use this for steam.
Everything end's up on steam.
Sadly the most American/Other Countries except Japan Visual novels have Horrendous voice acting and the logic of an alien want to see boobs.
But for that reason these games are popular after all: They have a specific target market, that all.
Btw, I want to buy it to see ***** and ***** and start playing my **** until I *** hard.
But for that reason these games are popular after all: They have a specific target market, that all.
Btw, I want to buy it to see ***** and ***** and start playing my **** until I *** hard.