My sister screwed up
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While I kinda question whether or not the school had grounds to punish her considering it wasn't on school property she did admit something illegal, so I would take them handing out the punishment over them calling the cops or something. I only hope this experience will teach her to have better things to having "every intention of" doing, like stuff that isn't against the law.
Would anyone mind explaining the concept of "We tell people who broke our rules that they aren't allowed to come here for X days"? I mean, those breaking school rules are most likely the same people who couldn't care less about being suspended ...
Yes, it is a punishment in regards to "You won't have access to the stuff we teach over the course of your suspension" ... But honestly, which rule-breaker gives a flying about his or her school career in the first place?
Now as for the OP ... I believe most has been said already, but one thing strikes me right now ... Why on Earth does someone, who isn't even remotely close to an openly visible drunk-status, admit it after a friend threw up? ... Like, seriously ... Schools have no authority to call for an actual test, unless they call the cops - which can be pretty damn embarassing for the school, regardless of the results ... So ... While being honest regardless of the situation is a perfect example of categorical imperative, it is ... considerably retarded when confronted by an entity that does have some authority over yourself ...
Yes, it is a punishment in regards to "You won't have access to the stuff we teach over the course of your suspension" ... But honestly, which rule-breaker gives a flying about his or her school career in the first place?
Now as for the OP ... I believe most has been said already, but one thing strikes me right now ... Why on Earth does someone, who isn't even remotely close to an openly visible drunk-status, admit it after a friend threw up? ... Like, seriously ... Schools have no authority to call for an actual test, unless they call the cops - which can be pretty damn embarassing for the school, regardless of the results ... So ... While being honest regardless of the situation is a perfect example of categorical imperative, it is ... considerably retarded when confronted by an entity that does have some authority over yourself ...
It'a not about teenage drinking, it's about being inappropriately drunk. There are many functions in society as adults where drinking is highly inappropriate and can land you into big trouble. You don't go to work drunk, and you don't go to school drunk.bahumat42 said:
We're not talking about kids getting drunk in their parents' basement here. We're talking kids drinking then going to a function where inebriation is frowned upon. This is bad for adults to do, why isn't it bad for kids?
Eh, alcohol is a funny thing, see.
Was the school right? Yeah. Sure. They followed the law, and issued a punishment that I'm sure will do absolutely no good whatsoever. But hey, that's the law, and that's the rules, and plenty of folks have already said you can't really do much about it.
However, the laws are flawed. They always have been. They always will be.
Laws should be reserved for things that are inherently harmful and dangerous. Laws should be in place for the prevention of things things that are violent, aggressive, and otherwise disruptive to society.
Sure, alcohol can be disruptive... but it isn't illegal at ALL ages. Just the ages we have arbitrarily decided people are too STUPID to have it. Which is perhaps the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
Believe me, we're ALL too stupid to have it. But since we're having it, we might as well be teaching the lessons about RESPONSIBILITY, and ALWAYS WATCH YOUR DRINK, and NEVER DRINK AND DRIVE, and NOBODY LIKES A DRUNK.
Instead, we make it this mysterious wonder-elixer that kids can't have because fuck-all if they can understand psychology.
And sadly, the psychology behind that just makes them want it more. It makes them MORE likely to drink. It makes them MORE likely to experiment. And it makes them LESS LIKELY to have any supervision or guidance.
But of course, knee-jerk reaction laws like these are a the modern age of civilization.
Just remember, when the LAW has to take over for Common Sense... then Common Sense can no longer be said to be Common.
I can only hope someone teaches this girl about drinking RESPONSIBLY... about WHEN and WHERE drinking is appropriate. If you don't talk about it, then they're just going to drink WHEN and WHERE they please. And then you can look forward to even MORE suspensions, perhaps arrests? I don't know how the law works up there exactly.
Meh, oh well. Anyways... that's my two cents. Make of it what you please.
Was the school right? Yeah. Sure. They followed the law, and issued a punishment that I'm sure will do absolutely no good whatsoever. But hey, that's the law, and that's the rules, and plenty of folks have already said you can't really do much about it.
However, the laws are flawed. They always have been. They always will be.
Laws should be reserved for things that are inherently harmful and dangerous. Laws should be in place for the prevention of things things that are violent, aggressive, and otherwise disruptive to society.
Sure, alcohol can be disruptive... but it isn't illegal at ALL ages. Just the ages we have arbitrarily decided people are too STUPID to have it. Which is perhaps the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
Believe me, we're ALL too stupid to have it. But since we're having it, we might as well be teaching the lessons about RESPONSIBILITY, and ALWAYS WATCH YOUR DRINK, and NEVER DRINK AND DRIVE, and NOBODY LIKES A DRUNK.
Instead, we make it this mysterious wonder-elixer that kids can't have because fuck-all if they can understand psychology.
And sadly, the psychology behind that just makes them want it more. It makes them MORE likely to drink. It makes them MORE likely to experiment. And it makes them LESS LIKELY to have any supervision or guidance.
But of course, knee-jerk reaction laws like these are a the modern age of civilization.
Just remember, when the LAW has to take over for Common Sense... then Common Sense can no longer be said to be Common.
I can only hope someone teaches this girl about drinking RESPONSIBLY... about WHEN and WHERE drinking is appropriate. If you don't talk about it, then they're just going to drink WHEN and WHERE they please. And then you can look forward to even MORE suspensions, perhaps arrests? I don't know how the law works up there exactly.
Meh, oh well. Anyways... that's my two cents. Make of it what you please.
Thank GOD that a school actually held up its own rules for once in an eternity. That's so rare, you don't even know it.
lightningmagurn said:
Ah yes, there's the answer. Obviously it's common sense that we should teach our kids there's this wonderful beverage that we all have... but they can't touch... because they're just 'not old enough to understand'.
Yep, that's -never-, -ever- been proven to do exactly the opposite thing from DETER kids.
Nope. Common Sense. I'm sure you're right. (/sarcasm)
I know where you're coming from. My little brother called me up a week or so ago, I had to pick him up and drive him to a detox center where the police had taken his girlfriend.
I'm not sure why the police thought he was sober, when he was clearly smashed. My little brother is 19 btw. (damn it I just realized I missed his birthday)
Anyways yeah 10 day suspension is harsh, but let's be honest, you don't fail or get expelled from 1 suspension. Your little sister will be fine. I wouldn't have willingly admitted to breaking the law when there was no way for them to prove it, but hey rookie mistake.
I'm not sure why the police thought he was sober, when he was clearly smashed. My little brother is 19 btw. (damn it I just realized I missed his birthday)
Anyways yeah 10 day suspension is harsh, but let's be honest, you don't fail or get expelled from 1 suspension. Your little sister will be fine. I wouldn't have willingly admitted to breaking the law when there was no way for them to prove it, but hey rookie mistake.
I misread the title as 'I screwed my sister up', this thread is far less erotic than i expected.