My thought process during the end of ME3. (SPOILERS)

[SajuukKhar]

as shown in arrival destroying relays pretty much destroys the system its in so at best every sinsytem is now isolated, the fleet at earth will never get home, at worst? every system with a relay is destroyed in cluding Sol and including the fleet. no matter what your choice its genocide on a massive scale. shepard is the reaper of this cycle she/he ended all advanced life

Except there is a LARGE difference.

the relay in Arrival was fully powered, the relays at the end of ME3 were drained of energy enacting Shepard's choice before the blew up.

No solar system destroying supernova.

why does everyone ignore it when the game says DOING THIS REQUIRES THE ENERGY OF ALL THE MASS RELAYS?

 

[SajuukKhar]

so they arent destroyed. the fleet is trapped in the sol system permamently

The fleet and the solar system aren't destroyed no.

However due to the Massive damage The Reapers caused most of the ships will probably be unrecoverable and most of the people on them will probably die.

 

[Flailing Escapist]

Of course, you're operating under the assumption that there's anywhere that is safe from an immortal race of machines bent on wiping you out. That there aren't any Reapers hanging out around the edges of the galaxy to destroy anyone or anything that tries to flee.

I don't think there are enough Reapers to cover cover the entire edge of a galaxy. And you're operating under the assumption that there is.

Not to mention that if anything "invalidates" the choices made through the series, it's Shepard suddenly deciding that the cause he's fought through three games for, sacrificed loved ones for, even died for, suddenly just isn't worth fighting for anymore, and everything he's ever done was completely in vain.

Did I not just mention it wouldn't be sudden? It would (of course) have to slowly dawn on them, if it was sudden it wouldn't make sense. We're shown in ME1 that a single Reaper can completely fuck up everyone's day so what would make anyone think they could take the Reapers without a magical space macpuffin? They were evacuating their home planets and colonies in ME3 is it too much of a jump to assume they would evacuate their galaxy entirely to escape certain destruction? I not saying they couldn't stasis themselves deep underground like the Protheans or fight to the last man I'm just saying that survival would be their number one priority reguardless of how well the fight against the Reapers was going.

If it's not too much to believe that they happened to find schematics to a super-destroy-or-control-all-Reapers super space machine that it shouldn't be to hard to imagine that they would have the option to run away or hide from certain death.

 

[Flailing Escapist]

It is an incredibly hopeful ending that makes me wonder what sort of greatness lies in wait for the races now that they can finally do what they want instead of what they are forced to.

And to see The Stargazers, who are heavily implied to be decadents of the colony the Normandy founded, exist meaning that they were able to survive and continued to live on is also a very happy moment.

It makes me wonder what kind of endings you've seen if these are the ones you find fulfilling. If it makes you happy, thats great defend your happy endings as much as you want. But nothing can convince me that a child couldn't have created better endings for ME3 than Bioware did (macguffin and all). I felt they were incredibly simple and unsatisfying. Bioware played it too safe and tried to dazzle us too much and it left much to be desired. If it dazzled you I'm not going to try to change your mind because I probably won't. I just want you to know that I didn't feel anything for them (and I should have).

Too safe
Tried too hard
and only left a sad impression because they apparently couldn't do any better

 

[SajuukKhar]

It makes me wonder what kind of endings you've seen if these are the ones you find fulfilling. If it makes you happy, thats great defend your happy endings as much as you want. But nothing can convince me that a child couldn't have created better endings for ME3 than Bioware did (macguffin and all). I felt they were incredibly simple and unsatisfying. Bioware played it too safe and tried to dazzle us too much and it left much to be desired. If it dazzled you I'm not going to try to change your mind because I probably won't. I just want you to know that I didn't feel anything for them (and I should have).

Too safe
Tried too hard
and only left a sad impression because they apparently couldn't do any better

I have seen ending for just about every major movie/game series i nthe last 10 years.

Seconldy how is a ending that pisses off half te user base safe? If anything it was the most UNSAFE ending they could have done

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

It was like the finale of LOST all over again. Amazing journey up until the last 5 minutes. But you can forgive LOST because it's a TV show and it's not interactive and based on player choices. Also, you can interpret it anyway you want, and honestly it was the only way to explain the flash-sideways. It was still terrible, but at least I can still enjoy watching other episodes. I can never play Mass Effect again knowing that no matter what I choose I will be treated like a crack whore.

Mass Effect 3 ending is just downright terrible and depressing as all hell. It cannot be redeemed. Which is a shame because Bioware had the chance to create the ultimate video game experience with their save game imports and all that. I don't mind these ending being in the game, if you make choices that make the ending logical. I mind them being mandatory. I want an ending where I kill the Reapers and spill drinks with Normandy crew on the Citadel as the savior of the galaxy, and I want my Shepard to live happily ever after with Liara. I want galaxy to be safe and well like before the Reapers. I want to be able to have the ultimate happy ending because that's what I've been playing for. I've been playing the game in such a way hoping this whole time that such an ending will be possible. An RPG should let me do that.

 

[Casual Shinji]

I had the same ending you had, OP. Except with me the game ended the second the Normandy's door opened just a crack.

But then with my dash toward the beam, both Garrus and Liara got smushed.

As I said in a previous thread; Too bad we can't have happy endings anymore in big games like this.

 

[Something Amyss]

Not destroying the relays would only mean that the civilization of the galaxy would continue down The Reapers chosen technological path, which is to say a dead end one

Yes except even the ending itself indicates that this cycle has changed and the circle will not hold.

 

[SajuukKhar]

Not destroying the relays would only mean that the civilization of the galaxy would continue down The Reapers chosen technological path, which is to say a dead end one

Yes except even the ending itself indicates that this cycle has changed and the circle will not hold.

That change in the cycle is in regards to synthetics destroying organics, it has nothing to do with the technological limitations placed within the mass relays system and subsequently placed on the races that adapt their technology from it.

 

[Arina Love]

yep ending and me3 suck. Apparently they spent all time and money tweaking gameplay and marketing and not enough to actually release decent game with decent story and ending.

 

[SajuukKhar]

yep ending and me3 suck. Apparently they spent all time and money tweaking gameplay and marketing and not enough to actually release decent game with decent story and ending.

Yes because an ending that deals with issues brought up in ME1

specifically the "Mass relays were built to control evolution", so we blew them up so that evolution could no longer be controlled thing is a bad ending?

Seriously did NO ONE pay attention to sovereign on Virmire?

I am starting to feel like I am the only person who listened to the dialog of ME1.

 

[Arina Love]

yep ending and me3 suck. Apparently they spent all time and money tweaking gameplay and marketing and not enough to actually release decent game with decent story and ending.

Yes because an ending that deals with issues brought up in ME1

specifically the "Mass relays were built to control evolution", so we blew them up so that evolution could no longer be controlled thing is a bad ending?

Seriously did NO ONE pay attention to sovereign on Virmire?

I am starting to feel like I am the only person who listened to the dialog of ME1.

Yeah it's a bad horrible ending and MANY people are agreeing. It's poorly constructed, lacking choice. There is nothing wrong with relays, only thing that needed destruction is reapers.

 

[SajuukKhar]

Yeah it's a bad ending horrible. It's poorly constructed, lacking choice. There is nothing wrong with relays, only thing that needed destruction is reapers.

Entirely wrong

the reapers built the Mass relays so that civilizations would develop technology from them, which is why all races ended up making almost the exact same technology, this dependance on the Mass Relays also causes races to limit what they make and what things they develop.

As long as the Reapers Mass relays existed the races would be limited by the limits the reapers put into the Mass Relays network.

Thinking that the mass relays aren't bad is ignoring the entire discussion with Sovereign on Virmire, and is going against a main theme of the game.

Actually LISTEN to what Sovereign says on virmire next time.

 

[Arina Love]

Yeah it's a bad ending horrible. It's poorly constructed, lacking choice. There is nothing wrong with relays, only thing that needed destruction is reapers.

Entirely wrong

the reapers built the Mass relays so that civilizations would develop technology from the, which is why all races ended up making almost the exact same technology, this dependance on the Mass Relays also causes races to limit what they make and what things they develop.

As long as the Reapers Mass relays existed the races owuld be limited by the limits the reapers put into the Mass Relays network.

Thinking that the mass relays aren't bad is ignoring the entire discussion with Sovereign on Virmie, and is going against a main theme of the game.

it's only your opinion. game that have choices in it should have all sorts of endings. there is nothing wrong with reaper tech and that it couldn't be expanded and evolved is just guessing.
Sovereign convo means nothing because he couldn't see what will future bring if reapers destroyed and tech is saved. i paid attention to that convo and there is nothing to it.

 

[SajuukKhar]

it's only your opinion. game that have choices in it should have all sorts of endings. there is nothing wrong with reaper tech and that it couldn't be expanded and evolved is jut guessing. E

The choices were NEVER going to affect the post-ending, they were only ever going to affect how you reached the ending.

You see the consequences of your actions played out in the game itself. Anything else post-ending would be redundant as you already saw it.

 

[Arina Love]

it's only your opinion. game that have choices in it should have all sorts of endings. there is nothing wrong with reaper tech and that it couldn't be expanded and evolved is jut guessing. E

The choices were NEVER going to affect the ending, they were going to affect how you reached the ending, you see the consequences of your actions played out in the game itself. Anything else post-ending would be redundant as you already saw it.

and that's why ME3 endings totally suck. Game with choices that don't mean anything. But i guess biodrones will like anything.