Naked celebrities: a new social statement?

[JimB]

Let me break down where you said people shouldn't show off their nudes.

Your breakdown doesn't really work. DANGER- MUST SILENCE is objecting to the idea that women should be encouraged to post nude photos not because they want to, but because hackers want to and hackers control us all so the women may as well beat the hackers to the punch, so let's see them nurples, ladies! Shake 'em for freedom!

This implies that we are both forcing people to show off their nudes and that at the same time, because there is already a large market of pornography on the internet, women shouldn't be allowed to show off their nudes even if they want to.

It really doesn't. It says the attitude that celebrities who are going to get their pictures stolen anyway should be worried about how easily we can masturbate to them and should willingly publish higher quality masturbation material is kinda fucked up.

And then you go off on some sperg about basic privacy when storing nude images on a cloud service is beyond retarded as a security standpoint.

Yeah, kind of like how me storing my phone in my car is retarded, since any asshole with a ball peen hammer can just smash the window and grab it. Clearly in that situation, I am the person who has given up my right to privacy, not the criminal who did illegal things to take something that does not belong to him.

 

[Itdoesthatsometimes]

The fact that you see someone seeing someone else in their natural form as evil and shameful,

No, now you're making shit up like Kalezian did. I never said anything remotely related to a judgement on seeing someone else in their natural form.

I'm very pro-nudity. I'm merely anti-stealing-other-people's-stuff-and-justifying-it-with-bullshit-misogyny-or-victim-blaming.

It's about taking that power away.

Yeah, no. That's rubbish. You take power away from hackers by throwing them in jail. You don't take power away from them by inviting them to whack it while you give them everything they wanted in the first place.

Kinda like how I invited people to take a stance against hackers by posting their credit card information here. No one seems to have "taken the power away from the hackers" by sharing their credit card information. Gee, I wonder why that would be.

Your analogy is ridiculous. Nudity has power because we give it power. Nobody can loose or gain nudity. Credit card info will leave you without cash, because someone can take it. Nudity isn't something you can take away from someone, you don't have less nudity if you post nude pics. This isn't a "thing" one can "steal". You could post millions of naked pictures of yourself and you would have exactly 0 less nudity. You wouldn't loose anything actually.

Money has power because we give it power. Someone can run up your credit, losing you 0 money. You actually did not lose anything.

 

[JimB]

How is this about misogyny or victim blaming?

It's about misogyny when people judge the stolen property not on how it affects the victims, but on how men can fap to it; it's about victim-blaming when someone calls the victims retarded for putting their personal property on a cloud instead of calling names the thief who stole the property. Those are both things that have happened in this thread. It's kind of disgusting.

 

[Verlander]

You could write books on "Celebrity Nudes"... maybe one day I will.

The interesting thing about celebrity nudes is that it represents a sexual side to the individual, and opposed to the objectified side to all actors and performers that we see on screen. At some point in their history, they made the decision to take that photograph... they're human too! And so of course it follows that this power (because owning your own sexuality is a power) can be used to promote concepts and ideas. After all, photography and content is just an alternative way of communicating.

However, you need to be careful. There shouldn't be some repository for this, and it shouldn't ever be expected of a celebrity. The strength is in someone choosing to do this, rather than it being "part of the job". When that happens, we loose the significance, the communication, the impact of the image... and be left with women posing as objects once more.

 

[Itdoesthatsometimes]

The fact that you see someone seeing someone else in their natural form as evil and shameful,

No, now you're making shit up like Kalezian did. I never said anything remotely related to a judgement on seeing someone else in their natural form.

I'm very pro-nudity. I'm merely anti-stealing-other-people's-stuff-and-justifying-it-with-bullshit-misogyny-or-victim-blaming.

It's about taking that power away.

Yeah, no. That's rubbish. You take power away from hackers by throwing them in jail. You don't take power away from them by inviting them to whack it while you give them everything they wanted in the first place.

Kinda like how I invited people to take a stance against hackers by posting their credit card information here. No one seems to have "taken the power away from the hackers" by sharing their credit card information. Gee, I wonder why that would be.

Your analogy is ridiculous. Nudity has power because we give it power. Nobody can loose or gain nudity. Credit card info will leave you without cash, because someone can take it. Nudity isn't something you can take away from someone, you don't have less nudity if you post nude pics. This isn't a "thing" one can "steal". You could post millions of naked pictures of yourself and you would have exactly 0 less nudity. You wouldn't loose anything actually.

Money has power because we give it power. Someone can run up your credit, losing you 0 money. You actually did not lose anything.

lolwat.
Someone can run up your credit card and you won't loose money? Where did you learn economics?

What part of it aren't you getting?