Name one game that you think has aged well and one that hasn't - CHAT WITH THE STAFF!
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Legend of Zelda : A Link to the Past has aged well. The game is still fun, and the graphics aren't terribly important because of the solid gameplay and storyline.
Goldeneye to me has aged baddly. The game is still fun to play on multiplayer, but the campaign has lost its appeal to me when I tried to replay it not so long ago.
Goldeneye to me has aged baddly. The game is still fun to play on multiplayer, but the campaign has lost its appeal to me when I tried to replay it not so long ago.
One games that has been aged well. Supporting my previous statements on the escapist in the reviews sector...
Ratchet and clank, the very essence of the RaC series that shines above the crowd with still good graphics and gameplay that passes the other games in the series in gameplay point of view.
A game that has aged bad...
The entire Mario franchise...
When a game sinks to the level that you make everything for it just to make it look alive you've crossed a line...
Mario's Tennis, Mario Teaches Typing, BS Dr. Mario, Mario Golf, Mario Artist: Paint Studio, Mario Artist: Communication Kit, Dr. Mario 64 and Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games are just a handful of all the awful Mario games out there.
Let the fat plumber take a long nap... and never wake up again...
Ratchet and clank, the very essence of the RaC series that shines above the crowd with still good graphics and gameplay that passes the other games in the series in gameplay point of view.
A game that has aged bad...
The entire Mario franchise...
When a game sinks to the level that you make everything for it just to make it look alive you've crossed a line...
Mario's Tennis, Mario Teaches Typing, BS Dr. Mario, Mario Golf, Mario Artist: Paint Studio, Mario Artist: Communication Kit, Dr. Mario 64 and Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games are just a handful of all the awful Mario games out there.
Let the fat plumber take a long nap... and never wake up again...
Saga Frontier numero uno however, hasn't aged so well. Actually I'm not sure it did so well when it came out either.PedroSteckecilo said:
As for MGS, I have to say that I was playing it a year ago, before MGS4's release and I felt it held up really well. Yeah the graphics are dated, but I think the character designs kind of transcend the limitations.
Aged Well:
Devil May Cry (think about it)
The 1st; innocent childhood, few features but very well executed, Capcom had no idea how much of a gold mine they were sitting on.
The 2nd; The Akward Teenager of the gang, akward story that had many flaws, gameplay mechanics that he was trying but didn't work out and people always found him a tad weird.
The 3rd; The Young adult, in his prime. He knew what he was doing, his story was much less sketchy than the 2nd's and his gameplay mechanics, having dropped the bad ones from the second, were solid and enjoyable.
The 4th; The Old Man of the bunch. He tries but can't quite compete to when he was in his prime, maintains some interesting ideas, but mostly in thought, his execution was a little bit less than stellar, but we forgive him for his short-comings because he is a veteran and we hold respect for the experience he brings to the table.
Aged Badly:
Super Smash Brothers, it hit it's peak at the 1st, the second was horrible and the last was decent at it's best.
Devil May Cry (think about it)
The 1st; innocent childhood, few features but very well executed, Capcom had no idea how much of a gold mine they were sitting on.
The 2nd; The Akward Teenager of the gang, akward story that had many flaws, gameplay mechanics that he was trying but didn't work out and people always found him a tad weird.
The 3rd; The Young adult, in his prime. He knew what he was doing, his story was much less sketchy than the 2nd's and his gameplay mechanics, having dropped the bad ones from the second, were solid and enjoyable.
The 4th; The Old Man of the bunch. He tries but can't quite compete to when he was in his prime, maintains some interesting ideas, but mostly in thought, his execution was a little bit less than stellar, but we forgive him for his short-comings because he is a veteran and we hold respect for the experience he brings to the table.
Aged Badly:
Super Smash Brothers, it hit it's peak at the 1st, the second was horrible and the last was decent at it's best.
Game that has aged well
Goldeneye 64 - I know what you lot are thinking but its still a fun game with 4 players who doesn't love playing Oddjob shooting people?
Hasn't aged
Sonic - Please just go away leave the gaming spectrum Sonic you had your glory but just retire and die in a peaceful cottage away from us
Goldeneye 64 - I know what you lot are thinking but its still a fun game with 4 players who doesn't love playing Oddjob shooting people?
Hasn't aged
Sonic - Please just go away leave the gaming spectrum Sonic you had your glory but just retire and die in a peaceful cottage away from us
The Baldur's Gate games and Planescape Torment. Mostly due to the fact that the backgrounds were so good and their heavy reliance on story and dialogue. Good writing is timeless after all!
Total Annihilation also looks good for a game that came out in 1997, particularly the explosions.
Aged badly? Golden Eye on N64 looks like a one of those picture flick books, the frame rate is that bad.
Total Annihilation also looks good for a game that came out in 1997, particularly the explosions.
Aged badly? Golden Eye on N64 looks like a one of those picture flick books, the frame rate is that bad.
I think Baldur's Gate still has what it did when it first came out. The game's story (which basically take 2.5 games to tell) and characters are still amazing and the games combat and gameplay is still fun. Also, a lot of people are STILL making mods and other enhancements for the game.
I also think daggerfall aged pretty badly, morrowind was the first elder scrolls game I played, then oblivion. Finally I tried daggerfall, and after a couple of hours I was wondering what the point was.
I also think daggerfall aged pretty badly, morrowind was the first elder scrolls game I played, then oblivion. Finally I tried daggerfall, and after a couple of hours I was wondering what the point was.
One that I found had aged horribly is the original Jedi Knight. I tried to play it since I'm a huge fan of Jedi Outcast/Jedi Academy but I found it really hard to enjoy. I usually don't think graphics matter, but half the time you have to guess what it is you are shooting at, and finding where to go next is really freaking hard when everything looks the same. I'm guessing this game was innovative at it's time, but nowadays you can swing a lightsaber even in non Star Wars games, so it's kind of lost it's charm.
Games that age well are (though not limited to) games where the concept don't evolve much over the years. Round based RPGs a lá Final Fantasy for example are still pretty enjoyable because there hasn't been any major revolution in the genre. Same thing applies to most platformers, even though they are in 3D nowadays, the concept still works fine. But if I have to name a specific game it would have to be Lylat Wars, it's still as intense and fun as ever, wish I could say the same for the franchise :S
Games that age well are (though not limited to) games where the concept don't evolve much over the years. Round based RPGs a lá Final Fantasy for example are still pretty enjoyable because there hasn't been any major revolution in the genre. Same thing applies to most platformers, even though they are in 3D nowadays, the concept still works fine. But if I have to name a specific game it would have to be Lylat Wars, it's still as intense and fun as ever, wish I could say the same for the franchise :S
Final Fantasy 1 has aged horribly. Not to say that it is a bad game, its just that so much of the game's mechanics are pretty rough...
The original pokemon has aged excellently, though, with a well polished exterior and glitches that fascinate to this very day and rarely hurt your game unless you're just lookin' for trouble.
The original pokemon has aged excellently, though, with a well polished exterior and glitches that fascinate to this very day and rarely hurt your game unless you're just lookin' for trouble.
I think Grand Turismo is always going to suffer because the game is primarily about how realistically the cars control and how true to life they look. That series is only as good as its latest entry. Also people playing that game are always going to be interested in playing the latest car models so that they can fantasize about driving a Ferrari in real life.Sparrow Tag said:
Aged well? Some of the earlier classic that you know have a soul in them, like Street Fighter 2, or even as far back as Elite.
Not so well? Platformers mostly. Even one of my all time favourites like Rolling Thunder has a fairly predictable pattern to it, and I can mentally walk through it up to about stage 8.
Not so well? Platformers mostly. Even one of my all time favourites like Rolling Thunder has a fairly predictable pattern to it, and I can mentally walk through it up to about stage 8.
How pretty is Yoshi's Island (snes)? Seriously maybe its just me but to this day I can't get over how amazing that game looks, doesn't play too bad either.
Badly? Off the top of my head Starwing (snes) still plays okay but dear god I use to think that game looked amazing, everything is made out of triangles...
Badly? Off the top of my head Starwing (snes) still plays okay but dear god I use to think that game looked amazing, everything is made out of triangles...
Well I have nothing against turn based games and actually prefer them to be honest (well when it comes to RPGs and Strategy games).
When talking about games that "aged well" how old we're talking is the question. For example I think Morrowwind still does pretty well, but that is only a game behind the most recent release in the series "Oblivion" (which is now admittedly a few years old).
Knights Of The Old Republic/Jade Empire/etc... are they old enough?
Generally speaking I'd consider the Baldur's Gate/Planescape Torment to be right on the edge of truely being considered old, and I think they have aged fairly well and could be considered classic.
Truthfully I think gaming technology is getting to the point where it's going to be harder and harder to actually call games "obselete". Good music is good music, good graphics/drawing is good artwork. A solid gameplay system is going to remain a solid gameplay system. Since the graphics look like pictures, and the music sounds like music (as opposed to beeps and bleats) I think we will see flashier games come out by a lot of games, especially those with timeless premises are going to become truely immortal. Well assuming someone can find an easy way to emulate them since the current requirements to run old games (like Dosbox) are a pain in the real to put it mildly (I've never been able to get it to run).
As internet technology catches up with the abillity for users to affordably store and distribute larger/modern programs, the next generation of Abandonware sites are going to be something truely special, as honestly I can't see most game companies keeping their current products on the shelves indefinatly.
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When talking about games that "aged well" how old we're talking is the question. For example I think Morrowwind still does pretty well, but that is only a game behind the most recent release in the series "Oblivion" (which is now admittedly a few years old).
Knights Of The Old Republic/Jade Empire/etc... are they old enough?
Generally speaking I'd consider the Baldur's Gate/Planescape Torment to be right on the edge of truely being considered old, and I think they have aged fairly well and could be considered classic.
Truthfully I think gaming technology is getting to the point where it's going to be harder and harder to actually call games "obselete". Good music is good music, good graphics/drawing is good artwork. A solid gameplay system is going to remain a solid gameplay system. Since the graphics look like pictures, and the music sounds like music (as opposed to beeps and bleats) I think we will see flashier games come out by a lot of games, especially those with timeless premises are going to become truely immortal. Well assuming someone can find an easy way to emulate them since the current requirements to run old games (like Dosbox) are a pain in the real to put it mildly (I've never been able to get it to run).
As internet technology catches up with the abillity for users to affordably store and distribute larger/modern programs, the next generation of Abandonware sites are going to be something truely special, as honestly I can't see most game companies keeping their current products on the shelves indefinatly.
>>>----Therumancer--->
Aged well: Doom 2, still as fun now playing coop on the 360, as it was in '95 trading maps on floppies.
Aged poorly: FreeSpace, very difficult to go back to having 19 different target switching keys, from two on some of the FreeSpace clones.
Aged poorly: FreeSpace, very difficult to go back to having 19 different target switching keys, from two on some of the FreeSpace clones.