NASA Plans a Manned Flyby of Mars, Mission to Europa

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NASA Plans a Manned Flyby of Mars, Mission to Europa



NASA's current budget proposal includes requests for funds for a manned flyby of Mars in the early 2020s and for planning a mission to Jupiter's moon, Europa.

NASA recently released an overview of its $17 billion budget request for fiscal year 2015, which "includes funding for missions to Mars and the formulation for a mission to Jupiter's moon, Europa," according to a statement [http://www.nasa.gov/press/2014/march/nasa-administrator-boldens-statement-on-the-agencys-fy-2015-budget-request/#.UxfxnvmwKx1] by administrator Charles Bolden.

Members of the House Science Committee have already endorsed NASA's proposal to send astronauts on a flyby of Mars, which will serve as a stepping stone to furthering manned exploration of our universe. The plan is to launch two astronauts into space in November 2021; their spacecraft would fly past Venus in April 2022 and Mars in October of that year, then return to Earth in June 2023.

"It is the least complex mission profile for reaching the Mars vicinity," said Doug Cooke, a former NASA associate administrator for exploration, during a committee hearing on February 27. "The mission provides an opportunity for an incredible first step that will make travel to Mars real to the people of the world."

Europa is of interest to the scientific community due to the moon being covered in water ice, with evidence suggesting that a liquid ocean may lie beneath. If that proves to be the case, then Europa may be our best opportunity to find alien microbial life in our solar system.

Source: CNET [http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/03/140305-mars-asteroid-nasa-congress-space/]

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Wait, what about sending them past Venus? Why are we sending them backwards, then forward?
 

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Not sure what advantage we're getting from a manned mission that never touches down. We could just leave them in the space station for a few years.

ProZack said:
Wait, what about sending them past Venus? Why are we sending them backwards, then forward?
It's not that simple. An elliptical orbit will dip in, then out. You don't necessarily lose anything by it.
 

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Pyrian said:
Not sure what advantage we're getting from a manned mission that never touches down. We could just leave them in the space station for a few years.

ProZack said:
Wait, what about sending them past Venus? Why are we sending them backwards, then forward?
It's not that simple. An elliptical orbit will dip in, then out. You don't necessarily lose anything by it.
Ah, all right, thanks for clearing that up.
 

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A nineteen-month manned mission? That's definitely what I'd call an "acid test" of manned spaceflight technology. I'm worried that any sort of problem occuring will turn the public against space exploration- at least, even more so than they already are.
 

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Pyrian said:
Not sure what advantage we're getting from a manned mission that never touches down. We could just leave them in the space station for a few years.
Yeah, that seemed a little odd.

OTOH, just a proposal at the mo, we'll see if they cough up the funds to do anything.
 

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A twenty month space mission? Jesus Christ, I hope they have Netflix.
No, all they need is a copy of GTAV and the facilities to download player-made maps. Between that and YouTube via dedicated sattelite (It will take a few minutes to start loading but it should support at least 480p) it should be easy to pass the time
 

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Beware any large black monoliths. If found, attempt no landing on Europa. ATTEMPT NO LANDING THERE
 

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Pyrian said:
Not sure what advantage we're getting from a manned mission that never touches down. We could just leave them in the space station for a few years.
It's a stepping stone to putting people on the surface of Mars. Instead of putting all the eggs in that basket and then having a potential problem sink billions of dollars more than they would have spent they can do a simple fly by as a proof of concept.

This is an incredibly long journey with numerous issues that could arise at any given time. It's best to iron out the kinks, see where things can be improved, and so forth with a simple setup before trying something far more complicated like actually landing on the surface, lifting off, and returning to Earth. This also puts the astronauts in the least amount of danger for the mission and will provide a ton of useful data in terms of dealing with isolation in space and how humans will handle prolonged space travel like that.

Sadly this isn't Kerbal Space Program where if things don't work out you make some tweaks and fire another rocket hoping it works. People want to see that this is a worthy investment and isn't going to end with something like "First humans die in space" or something like that.
 
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God damn I hope this is approved.

The Mars flyby is excellent by itself, but add the possibility of exploring Europa and thing start to get [i/]really[/i] interesting.

I quite like the timescale, too. Usually these things have depressing dates 50+ years in the future.
 

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NASA: "We landed on the moon, *****. Move aside, spacex. We got this."

Oh man I love nasa. They are easily one of the most badass science organizations on the planet, coming ahead of CERN and just behind whoever the hell makes lasers that burn things.
 

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So all it took was a little bit of Cold War nostalgia to get the space program dreaming big again? Thanks, Putin!
 

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For once a reasonable time scale, only seven years in the future? I'm actually quite excited about this, hopefully it'll get the funding, maybe this new Cold War isn't all bad?
 

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Finally some good news for the exploration of space, ever since the end of the Apollo missions we have been extraordinarily lazy as a species. After this may be we can finally land on mars and find that prothian archive.

They should take a laptop with kerbal space program on it.
 

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Oh hell yes! I am terribly excited about Europa, and the Mars mission is an excellent steppingstone.
 

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Ouch. 19 months in space. I really hope they'll have some form of artificial gravity on those ships. I don't want to know what would happen to your bones if they don't have that...
 

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Alleged_Alec said:
Ouch. 19 months in space. I really hope they'll have some form of artificial gravity on those ships. I don't want to know what would happen to your bones if they don't have that...
I read somewhere that they actually have excercise equipment on board to prevent exactly that. ;)
 

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Yeah, definitely time to start working on internet in space. Obviously with up to 20 minute one way communication you can't really do anything interactive. but they can make ebooks accessible, as well as video streaming I would think. We really need a better deep space data network than we have now, with the increasingly outdated DSN.
 

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thaluikhain said:
Pyrian said:
Not sure what advantage we're getting from a manned mission that never touches down. We could just leave them in the space station for a few years.
Yeah, that seemed a little odd.

OTOH, just a proposal at the mo, we'll see if they cough up the funds to do anything.
What advantage would there be for them to actually touch down? There's nothing of interest for humanity on Mars, these missions are simply preparation in case there ever will be.