Need some piracy advice....

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bfgmetalhead said:
Thanks bro, I half expected the responses to be Y U NO LIEK PIRATES!! ******!
Your assumptions insult me. In all my time on this website no one has ever acted like that or even typed like that.

OT: Leave the guy alone, this isn't your battle. Ratting him out to anyone would make you a **** and you don't want to be that; he's your friend and you don't exactly have to support him but you are supposed to be loyal to him before a few people working for a company you bought a product from. It's just a dick move to snitch on a friend.
 

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Anthony Wells said:
I've heard enough of this "he's your fiend dont do it" bullshit
Just because you don't agree with me doesn't mean I'm wrong.

Anthony Wells said:
heres the thing if he was pirating from EA or something i would say dont report him
Ohhhhhhh, so its okay as long as it's not happening to a company you like. Fair enough.

Anthony Wells said:
i would report any of my friends in an instant if they did that...because thats less money a company i love to use in their next game.
So what makes this reasoning okay and my response 'bullshit'? I can see the reason in wanting to so chivalrously your favourite publisher but I don't agree with it. And if they are pirating it, chances are they weren't going to pay for it in the first place.
 

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Buretsu said:
What's next, Nazis?
You know who else was against piracy? Hitler! [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HitlerAteSugar]

on a more serious note, this thread should be closed, this discussion won't come to an end between the "piracy is evil" and "piracy is ok" people, because let's face it, it's both a terribly hypocritical thing to say. so let's calm down, because people who pirate games wouldn't pay for it anyways, so no harm done (HA!). Their own conscience, on the other hand, should tell them that it's not ok to take things for granted without paying people back for them, independent of how much others FORCE you to pay. (which is immoral and not part of any law I know or probably ever be in a long time. because that would only add to the "force" part)

MercurySteam said:
Ohhhhhhh, so its okay as long as it's not happening to a company you like. Fair enough.
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Vegosiux said:
And giving gifts makes you an accomplice, that too.
that's why you gift stuff back, right?
...damn, I'm innocent.
 

IamLEAM1983

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OP, seriously - chill.

Everybody (or nearly everybody) either actively pirates games or has pirated at least one game in the past. Most of us try to walk the walk and talk the talk but hey, if your friend can't be bothered to consider that sixty dollars a pop is a fair price, you won't change his mind by barking up his tree about it.

Just get on with your life, safe in the knowledge that his ISP will or already has sent him warnings for his bandwidth use or for his nabbing stuff from flagged torrents. Either he'll be scared out of the habit, which seems unlikely, or he'll go on for several years, until his backlog of pirated swag reaches such epic proportions that he starts seeding as well - at which point he's liable to be fingered by his ISP for copyright-infringing activities.

Honestly, it's just way too much hassle for a single individual. Keep buying your games, keep your friend if he's not that much of a jerk beyond his wanton refusal to buy games, stop heckling or sermonizing him because it won't do jack squat - and keep going.

Piracy's not worth getting all righteous over, honestly. There's nobler causes in the world that are worthy of being white-knighted to oblivion and back.
 

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MercurySteam said:
Anthony Wells said:
I've heard enough of this "he's your fiend dont do it" bullshit
Just because you don't agree with me doesn't mean I'm wrong.

Anthony Wells said:
heres the thing if he was pirating from EA or something i would say dont report him
Ohhhhhhh, so its okay as long as it's not happening to a company you like. Fair enough.

Anthony Wells said:
i would report any of my friends in an instant if they did that...because thats less money a company i love to use in their next game.
So what makes this reasoning okay and my response 'bullshit'? I can see the reason in wanting to so chivalrously your favourite publisher but I don't agree with it. And if they are pirating it, chances are they weren't going to pay for it in the first place.


I retracted my post before you responded.
 

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Anthony Wells said:
MercurySteam said:
Anthony Wells said:
I've heard enough of this "he's your fiend dont do it" bullshit
Just because you don't agree with me doesn't mean I'm wrong.

Anthony Wells said:
heres the thing if he was pirating from EA or something i would say dont report him
Ohhhhhhh, so its okay as long as it's not happening to a company you like. Fair enough.

Anthony Wells said:
i would report any of my friends in an instant if they did that...because thats less money a company i love to use in their next game.
So what makes this reasoning okay and my response 'bullshit'? I can see the reason in wanting to so chivalrously your favourite publisher but I don't agree with it. And if they are pirating it, chances are they weren't going to pay for it in the first place.


I retracted my post before you responded.
Sorry mate, the internet is written in ink.
 

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I don't support piracy but I wouldn't even rat out an acquaintance for anything less than some sort of physical violence against another person. I'm sorry but you're the worst kind of traitor.
 

Anthony Wells

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MercurySteam said:
Anthony Wells said:
MercurySteam said:
Anthony Wells said:
I've heard enough of this "he's your fiend dont do it" bullshit
Just because you don't agree with me doesn't mean I'm wrong.

Anthony Wells said:
heres the thing if he was pirating from EA or something i would say dont report him
Ohhhhhhh, so its okay as long as it's not happening to a company you like. Fair enough.

Anthony Wells said:
i would report any of my friends in an instant if they did that...because thats less money a company i love to use in their next game.
So what makes this reasoning okay and my response 'bullshit'? I can see the reason in wanting to so chivalrously your favourite publisher but I don't agree with it. And if they are pirating it, chances are they weren't going to pay for it in the first place.


I retracted my post before you responded.
Sorry mate, the internet is written in ink.

Technically it is written in code.
 

Dryk

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Disapprove, not too often but vocally. If you don't wear him down eventually nothing you do will make a difference.

Unsilenced said:
If you want to, you know, not completely ruin his entire existence, you could just make it seem like he's been caught. Make a bogus e-mail with an official sounding name and send a really important looking paper telling him he's been busted.
To make it look legitimate enough he'd have to infringe on someone's trademarks...
 

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Anthony Wells said:
Technically it is written in code.
Yes, but I'm not talking in technicalities. You posted something and I responded to it. We can move on now
 

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MercurySteam said:
Anthony Wells said:
Technically it is written in code.
Yes, but I'm not talking in technicalities. You posted something and I responded to it. We can move on now

and as i said i retracted my post because of three reasons:
1. it wasnt a thought out response
2. it was a responce of annoyance which i dont normally do.
and most importantly 3. i was and am tired while writing these so they are not my usual caliber of arguments.
 

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Anthony Wells said:
MercurySteam said:
Anthony Wells said:
Technically it is written in code.
Yes, but I'm not talking in technicalities. You posted something and I responded to it. We can move on now

and as i said i retracted my post because of three reasons:
1. it wasnt a thought out response
2. it was a responce of annoyance which i dont normally do.
and most importantly 3. i was and am tired while writing these so they are not my usual caliber of arguments.
I understand that and it has been duly noted but I have decided that this thread is a spiralling argument that won't get us anywhere so I'm pretty much done with it now.
 

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Buretsu said:
Faulty logic.

See, you don't buy a game. You're not buying the files that exist on the disc, you're buying the legal right to be able to play the game. At any time, you can choose to give up that right and pass it on to someone else, by giving it as a Gift or selling it for someone to Buy Used. This someone else now has the legal right to play the game, and you no longer do. Borrowing or Renting is just a temporary transfer of the right, to be given back at a later date according to a contract, whether it be verbal or written.
Why yes, that it's "faulty logic" was kind of his point - in order to show just how ridiculous the generalization is that "Not paying for it = theft".
 

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As bad as piracy is just remember it could be worse.
Your friend could be a proper judas who betrays & fucks over people he personally knows & even thinks of as friends.
 

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Sansha said:
Justify, twist, quote and moralize all you want - to me, taking and using a copy of digital media you didn't pay for means you stole it. Having not taken a physical copy - box, disk etc - doesn't change that; just means you stole directly from the developer rather than the retail store. Which carries much, much less risk and penalty for being caught, which really boils down to why it happens - people too afraid of real-world penalty so they use a system which makes them harder to be caught and punished, and then their own sense of morality by swinging into denial.

I hate thieves, but I really hate thieves who refuse to admit their wrongdoings, especially in this case where they up-front admit to doing it, but refuse to acknowledge it as a crime, or at the very least, something immoral and wrong.

You'll never convince me otherwise, and frankly I someone is a despicable person for, again, trying to make it sound 'better' at best or 'a-okay' at worst.
He's not trying to do any of those things, he's trying to teach you how to stop undermining your argument. They may be similar, and equally wrong, but they are not the same and insisting that they are does nothing but harm your position.

Buretsu said:
At any time, you can choose to give up that right and pass it on to someone else, by giving it as a Gift or selling it for someone to Buy Used.
Not all the time, and not for long <.<