Need some piracy advice....

[isometry]

Not much to say, except you are a bad friend and an immature person. Focus on improving yourself, fix your own flaws, and let others take care of themselves.

 

[drummond13]

First of all, there isn't. Because it isn't nearly a big enough crime for most people to care. It only affects the industry at all because of volume, and then not nearly as much as the companies would like you to think.

Secondly, wow are you a bad friend. Do you honestly think getting him in trouble will magically make him view piracy the same way you do? All you're going to do is cause him inconvenience and make him (justifiably) angry with you. And, unless he was actively planning on buying Skyrim but decided to pirate it instead (which it doesn't sound like he was doing), Bethesda remains completely unaffected by his actions.

 

[Fishyash]

I don't care if the game your friend pirated was developed by starving homeless people, it doesn't warrant you attempting legal action on him.

Piracy isn't that bad. Lots of people like to make it worse than it actually is, but it really isn't that bad.

Ideally, you shouldn't do it, and we would be better off without it, but it's not that bad.

 

[beefprophet]

Ya know, to all those guys who keep on saying "Don't be a rat! Don't snitch on your friends!"

Are you really so self-centered and arrogant to believe that, if some random person gets pulled over for speeding then it's his problem but if it's your FRIENDS that do it it's okay to lie and cheat and steal because, you know, it's your friends?

It's that kind of nepotism and friend-loving that gets morons into high political positions in the government, in business and into spots at the local DMV.

If you're gonna judge someone for a crime then you judge EVERYONE for that crime - no making exceptions just because "oh he's my friend so it's ok."

EDIT: That being said, honestly there's no point in reporting him for piracy, just like it isn't worth it to report some random kid at the local internet cafe - because I have friends who got blackmailed by gov't associations and - well, they didn't really enforce much of anything. Don't bother fighting the fight for an organization that isn't willing to fight for itself...

 

[applesandoranges]

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[Tufty94]

I hate it when people pirate things just because they want it for free. I don't think it's bad all the time, but what your friend did irritates the fuck out of me too. However, the fact that you'd consider getting your friend into trouble makes you a pretty shitty friend and a much worse person than him.

 

[Vegosiux]

Unfortunately, the logical alternative is a system that lets them prove, in court, that you read and understood every single word of that 500 page agreement. Like, a system that requires you to copy that sucker out word for word, in triplicate, rather than clicking "I agree". If you try to take away the company's ability to cover themselves with a legal agreement you didn't really have to read (and there ARE legitimate liability issues for them in there, in addition to all the bull) then their solution is not going to be to stop covering themselves... it's going to be to make it legally binding. No matter how annoying they have to be to do so.

That's the problem of whoever didn't read the agreement, really. Just cause you can scroll down and hit I AGREE doesn't mean you shouldn't read the thing.

I say that whoever agrees to something without reading it only has themselves to blame. Yeah it's tedious, yeah "Who's gonna read that shit", but it takes 5-10 minutes tops and you can avoid some problems. As long as you agreed to it, it doesn't matter if you read it.

 

[Vegosiux]

People are saying that "Copyright infringement is totally cool because copyright laws are bullshit."

And since they're ALSO saying that "Piracy is copyright infringement and not theft", then the Transitive Property says that they're saying "Piracy is totally cool because copyright laws are bullshit."

*citation needed*

 

[Owyn_Merrilin]

Unfortunately, the logical alternative is a system that lets them prove, in court, that you read and understood every single word of that 500 page agreement. Like, a system that requires you to copy that sucker out word for word, in triplicate, rather than clicking "I agree". If you try to take away the company's ability to cover themselves with a legal agreement you didn't really have to read (and there ARE legitimate liability issues for them in there, in addition to all the bull) then their solution is not going to be to stop covering themselves... it's going to be to make it legally binding. No matter how annoying they have to be to do so.

That's the problem of whoever didn't read the agreement, really. Just cause you can scroll down and hit I AGREE doesn't mean you shouldn't read the thing.

I say that whoever agrees to something without reading it only has themselves to blame. Yeah it's tedious, yeah "Who's gonna read that shit", but it takes 5-10 minutes tops and you can avoid some problems. As long as you agreed to it, it doesn't matter if you read it.

The real problem is that you've already paid for the product, and you have to click "I agree" if you want to use it -- even though that agreement was not a part of the original contract of sale. It's adding additional terms to something that you have already paid for, and requiring you to agree to it word for word if you want to use the program -- no negotiation at all. Honestly, there's not much point in reading the damned things, because even if you do know what's in it, you can't do anything about it.

 

[targren]

People are saying that "Copyright infringement is totally cool because copyright laws are bullshit."

And since they're ALSO saying that "Piracy is copyright infringement and not theft", then the Transitive Property says that they're saying "Piracy is totally cool because copyright laws are bullshit."

*citation needed*

Here are some lovely citations for you:

*snipped*

Nice attempt at selective interpretation, except that you made the mistake of quoting me. I never said it was "totally cool." I said that you cannot claim the moral high ground.

 

[Gigano]

Can't be that much of a friend if you'd make an example of him.

Anyway, no company is going to take anything to court on the basis of "This anonymous guy called and said this other guy pirated our game!", and getting actual proof would be public relations nightmare for them. So there's no chance of getting a reasonable company to waste time on such unprofitable actions, in service of your rather disproportionate desire to win an argument.

 

[Vegosiux]

Nice attempt at selective interpretation, except that you made the mistake of quoting me. I never said it was "totally cool." I said that you cannot claim the moral high ground.

There's nothing wrong with ignoring an unjust law.

You were saying?

...so WHERE did people claim piracy is OK?

 

[targren]

...so WHERE did people claim piracy is OK?

Let it go, dude. Clearly, there are no words small enough.

 

[bfgmetalhead]

OP: If it bothers you so much buy your friend a copy of the game. That will make them legit, give the publishers their money, and it should send a jolt to your friend how much you care about the issue. Not saying it will stop them, but it should make them think a bit more.

You know, this is exactly what I said way back on page three. I still think it's the best route if he doesn't want to lose his friend. These people should just listen to our awesome ideas.

I bought him teraria after he pirated it last year. I felt the same then cause yknow..teraria

 

[legendp]

One of my friends pirated Skyrim recently (like a day ago). I am really, really irrated about it, I spent a whole hour almost ranting at him about how cruel it was to Bethesda's workers who poured so much work into the game for him to just pirate it.
He said that he was completely justified in taking it at as he did'nt want to pay for it, which in my opinion is a terrible excuse.

Now I don't hate pirates, some times it is fair. Like situations like no demo, trying before you buy it, it's an EA game(lol half-joke) or it is'nt available anymore to buy; but just taking a product for the sake of WEYHAY FREE SHIT!!111!! just does not sit well with me.

Anyway I need some advice, is their any system that I can report this to secretly? Cause I really think I need to make an example of him, and he is the kind of person that if he does it once an gets away wih it, he will do it again.

So fellow escapists any suggesions?

p.s Don't turn this into a Skyrim vs Oblivion thread plox. WUV U <3

Edit. I don't like the idea of snitching on him but there is no other way I can think of were he would get the message that theiving of deserving companys is unacceptable. I f anyone has a suggestion I would love to know .

why is it that on the escapist pirating is considered as bad as murder or physical abuse. I mean piraters will pirate, making an example of him will not stop him. I know people who have pirated 100+ games, I don't dob them in because they will do it anyway. Anyway don't act like you have never listened to a downloaded song or watched a pirated movie. People need to get some perspective, pirating is bad but people are overacting as badly as the video game companies. Have you considered that he didn't have the money anyway, or wouldn't play it for more than a handfull of hours, sure theses are not reasons to pirate but maybe you shouldn't be so judgemental about it and relax. the majority of pirated games are not played through to the end, A lot of pirates basically just play an extended demo and then move on to something else. Has your friend played the game for more than 6hours

I hate how people are so judgemental about people they don't even know. I could name a dozen reasons people might pirate that I have never even seen raised on the escapist, they are not justifications but they are factors to be considered

 

[Silverfox99]

OP: If it bothers you so much buy your friend a copy of the game. That will make them legit, give the publishers their money, and it should send a jolt to your friend how much you care about the issue. Not saying it will stop them, but it should make them think a bit more.

You know, this is exactly what I said way back on page three. I still think it's the best route if he doesn't want to lose his friend. These people should just listen to our awesome ideas.

I bought him teraria after he pirated it last year. I felt the same then cause yknow..teraria

Well you can't keep buying him games then that only will reinforce the bad behavior. Maybe don't talk to him or play any game with him you know he has pirated?

OP: If it bothers you so much buy your friend a copy of the game. That will make them legit, give the publishers their money, and it should send a jolt to your friend how much you care about the issue. Not saying it will stop them, but it should make them think a bit more.

You know, this is exactly what I said way back on page three. I still think it's the best route if he doesn't want to lose his friend. These people should just listen to our awesome ideas.

Yea I agree. I didn't see your post in the haze of the other posters taking over the thread to discuss pirating instead of helping the op with his friend.

 

[Altorin]

I'd rather be friends with a person that pirates every game ever made then be friends with someone who would throw aforementioned friend under a bus.

People will disagree. But that's okay. I don't want to be their friend if they would disagree.

This is the dumbest thread I've ever read and I used to post on GameFAQs