Less tar and nicotine? The important thing is the amount of carcinogens and damaging toxins that are deposited in the body, where is your source that less of those are deposited per cigarette of cannabis versus tobacco?SkarKrow said:Okay. If you smoke just the cannabis there's significantl;y less tar and a hell of alot less nicotine. Tar destroys your lungs gradually and reduces the capacity whilst nicotine is highly toxic and highly addictive, the combination of these two properties results in a chemical dependance on tobacco which causes substantial progressive damage to the lungs. It may not be a good idea to smoke anyway, but the components that cause the damage to cells and lead to cancer over prolonged use are much less common in cannabis than they are in tobacco.Treblaine said:There isn't much special about tobacco in causing cancer. Burning almost anything and inhaling the smoke is going to contribute to cancer and damaging your airways, largely to an immediate and permanent extent. Weed is only limited by how it inebriates you too much to smoke 20 cigarettes a day like smokers can. I don't know many who can smoke even 5 joints a day. But weed encourages you to hold in the smoke and really even smoking one or two cigarettes (either tobacco or cannabis cigarettes) hugely increases your risk of an early death.
If there wasn't any chemical high associated with the inhalation of such smoke every smoker would consider it cruel torture to have to inhale and hold in such volumes of smoke. Pleasure association is amazing at tricking our mind into accepting damage being done to our bodies.
And there is not reason to smoke cannabis for any medical condition, they are available in pill form or even an aerosol spray like an asthma inhaler. At the very least, use a vapouriser.
It should be fundamental inescapable logic that inhaling smoke is bad for your health.
Conversely it's actually quite difficult to become chemically dependant on cannabis, if you smoke cannabis with tobacco, as most people do, you associate the nicotine delivery from the tobacco with the cannabis and as a resdult develop a proxy dependency on cannabis. Which can be also be damaging.
Moderation is key.
Cannabis is a pretty good painkiller in my experience, but it's got nothing on my friends whisky and wine for dulling pain.
I should also point out that logic is typically flawed as a justification. Logically the Earth is orbited by the sun, because we can observe it travelling across the sky from the Earth's surface. However we know that not to be true due to scientific enquiry into the nature of our solar system. Logic is a self evident thing that can be very flawed upon inspection and examination of the face value.
Also, people are not logical or rational things.
I understand that cannabis is not chemically dependant like even tobacco smoking, but it is habit forming in the same way eating at McDonalds in habit forming.
Unfortunately any exposure to smoke significantly and substantially contributes to the risks of cancer, even second hand smoke as has been established. You should that regularly inhaling smoke will hugely increase your risk of cancer and other severe health problems, there is no moderation with smoking, any amount is just too dangerous. If you wish to consume cannabis, then realise smoking it is not the only way, you can eat it or use a vapouriser.
Also you should never self-medicate for pain, consult an expert on such matters.
No, logically the earth rotates around the sun if you ACTUALLY STUDY THE EVIDENCE beyond simply making a glance assumption. Astronomers who studied the planets and the stars relative to the earth used LOGIC to discover this. That is the difference between "common sense" and Science.
Rember logic is a broad term. Logic can be rational or irrational. Irrational logic would be something like "Comic Book Logic".
Why is it not the same? They each have an individual right and they could be influenced by anything they like, including some religious guy. Remember Christians all believe in a heaven in the afterlife.SkarKrow said:Okay seriously, don't warp my point, your words in my mouth taste like the vilest of ash. A personal right to end your life if you see fit is not the same as a large group of religious nutcases committing mass suicide.Treblaine said:Just because the law doesn't know, doesn't mean they wouldn't try to stop if they did know.
I don't want to get into a discussion of euthanasia or mercy-killing but I definitely oppose an unlimited right to commit suicide, think about all the religious cults who tell lies of a wonderful afterlife if they kill themselves. Think about the Jim Jones cult, HUNDREDS of people killing themselves in a mass suicide to get to heaven. The law cannot simply allow that. A right to suicide will be abused by cults. It will be abused by bullies. Life is too precious to allow such a thing that could so quickly end lives.
It's a matter of degrees. See there is some time to persuade a smoker to stop smoking. But trying to convince a death cult to not drink the cyanide-cool-aid is just not enough time.
No, lunatics should not be allowed to whip hundreds of people into ritual suicide to get into some promised false-heaven.
But if I personally reach the point where I have nothing to live for then that's my own choice.
Simple.
But I see you feel very strongly about the right to a personal right to end your life and it would be going too far off topic to argue with you otherwise, just don't be to surprised as it IS a reality (regardless of it's morality) that people can be imprisoned in mental hospitals to prevent them ending their life.
If by "nothing to live for" you mean severely paralysed, in pain and with no prospect of recovery and a near impending death, that is an aspect of Euthanasia that I consider quite separate from suicide and didn't want to go into that, I think the law should be different on that. But if someone wants to end their life simply because they damaged their hand and can't be a musician any more or because their wife left them, I think they should be stopped. There is a difference between rationally ending ones life because there really is nothing to live for and being depressed and feeling like there is nothing to live for. Or that what they do have to live for is nothing compared to the infinite of an (imaginary) afterlife that they can get by suicide.