New computer

[Superasil]

ok, well thanks for the input guys. would have responded a while ago... but havent been on in a while...

Anyway, i think i will build my own PC, but i think i'll save up some more before i do. like some people said, i don't want to cheap out on anything.

again, thanks a lot guys.

 

[Maluku]

quote="Maluku" post="18.147165.3377716" "If you can't build your own PC, you don't deserve to own one"

Completely agree'd.

I have been misquoted here, I don't think that statement above is true.

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i disagree. I think if you build it yourself, not only will you spend less money & get higher quality + faster componenets; but you will learn how to repair it in the process.

the key is to just do lots of instructional research beforehand, and go slow. remember not to do it where there's static-electricity and keep touching something that's bare-metal every time you move your feet or butt, so as to ground yourself.

It's not much of a price difference anymore, since most PC builders can buy cheaper than the average user and you have professional support, which is better for people who just want to have a running machine and not spent half a day repairing it (I do like repairing).

 

[Captain_Caveman]

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i disagree. I think if you build it yourself, not only will you spend less money & get higher quality + faster componenets; but you will learn how to repair it in the process.

the key is to just do lots of instructional research beforehand, and go slow. remember not to do it where there's static-electricity and keep touching something that's bare-metal every time you move your feet or butt, so as to ground yourself.

It's not much of a price difference anymore, since most PC builders can buy cheaper than the average user and you have professional support, which is better for people who just want to have a running machine and not spent half a day repairing it (I do like repairing).

I actually think building it yourself, you end up w/ less of a headache. Because putting the hardware together is pretty simple (as long as you stay grounded so no static-electricity sparks ruin the components).

Most of the problems people encounter come from software. And all the bloatware that pre-built PCs come w/ is the root of those problems. A fresh clean install of windows w/ all the updates and the newest drivers for standard hardware avoid most conflicts (so many pre-built computers use proprietary drivers which are often never updated). Throw on a good AV (like BitDefender or F-Secure) and use a hardware router w/ NAT & a SPI firewall built in. and you're golden.

 

[Maluku]

Most of the problems people encounter come from software. And all the bloatware that pre-built PCs come w/ is the root of those problems. A fresh clean install of windows w/ all the updates and the newest drivers for standard hardware avoid most conflicts (so many pre-built computers use proprietary drivers which are often never updated). Throw on a good AV (like BitDefender or F-Secure) and use a hardware router w/ NAT & a SPI firewall built in. and you're golden.

You may be right there, I haven't thought of that at all, since I built all my stuff myself or buy Apple...

You can however always do a clean install of Windows on any PC selfbuilt or prebuilt.

 

[Captain_Caveman]

Most of the problems people encounter come from software. And all the bloatware that pre-built PCs come w/ is the root of those problems. A fresh clean install of windows w/ all the updates and the newest drivers for standard hardware avoid most conflicts (so many pre-built computers use proprietary drivers which are often never updated). Throw on a good AV (like BitDefender or F-Secure) and use a hardware router w/ NAT & a SPI firewall built in. and you're golden.

You may be right there, I haven't thought of that at all, since I built all my stuff myself or buy Apple...

You can however always do a clean install of Windows on any PC selfbuilt or prebuilt.

sometimes. some PCs will actually have the bloatware install w/ windows. have it built into the install on the recovery CD/DVD. which makes it really hard to get rid of. i think HP & toshiba do this. Dell used to i dont know if they do anymore. But dell never really had a ton of crap pre-loaded. still too much, but compared to other companies not as much. some will even have the bloatware install when you try to install drivers from the driver CD it comes w/.

 

[Thaius]

I gotta' throw it out there...

Get a Mac.

Let the hating begin...

I dunno if Macs really work with a sub-$1k budget and gaming aspirations...

Well since you can install Windows on a Mac as of a few years ago, it works fine with gaming usage, and the new Macbooks (let alone the Mac Pros) are quite powerful.

Sub$1k budget... yeah, not really. Worth it though, in my opinion: more than worth it.

You know you can build a hackintosh for 20% the cost of a mac right? Sinec macs use PC components now. You just need to make sure you have compatible parts (since their drivers are more limited). google hackintosh and do some research.

This is true, but in my case I have a laptop. An incredibly sexy Macbook. In the case of a desktop, yeah, Hackintoshing it may be the way to go (though I'm not sure on the legality of it, now that I think about it), but as far as I'm aware such an option is not available for laptops. I'm a writer and a college student, so portability is more important than power for me: but this Macbook is pretty awesome anyway, so I can run most modern games regardless.