New Extra Credits is up

[Genixma]

Just. Enjoy the video. If you want to talk about the law behind their IP go to the merged forum of them leaving Escapist.

 

[Uszi]

Like I said in the main thread:

Anyone who watches the video and likes what they see should subscribe. They only have 3,503 subscribers right now, which is NO WHERE NEAR enough to get a Youtube Partnership and start running ads on the videos, if they want to keep getting paid for them.

If they're just fishing for a new publisher, than maybe it's not as important, but if they stay on Youtube for any length of time, they need to collect more views/subscribers.

 

[robert01]

Oh god... so much bettwer quality than the escapist vids (in terms of video and sound quality, not content) Im sorry but it is. Its just so jarring to realise how poor the uploads have had to be here.

Seems a bit soon for a new vid after the whole implosion thing but i guess its saying "We are still here without you **finger**" and i guess they are still dedicated to weekly vids.

They have to continue on as business as usual. They can't allow an issue with someone stop them from working. For both legal and an non-legal reasons. They claim they have rights to the Extra Credits IP, so they are using that right.

 

[Keepeas]

I'm a little uneasy about "the situation" as it stands...
But it was a great episode.

At least they are still making weekly videos.
I wish for the best out of all of this.

 

[Tarkand]

Wait what? Post Escapist? Wow, Am I ever terribly out of the loop here 0_o

 

[Owyn_Merrilin]

I'm going to quote myself from the other thread on this:

This is the best episode they have had in ages. In the old youtube videos and the first few Escapist vids, they weren't preachy or pretentious in the slightest. I stopped watching after a while because it got so ridiculously preachy, but watching this episode, they're back to doing what they did best: thoughtful, interesting commentary based around a solid idea. Leaving The Escapist may be the best move they've ever made, and I encourage everyone to go out and watch the new video, especially if you didn't like what they were doing here.

As well as my comment from Youtube:

Shortly before the move, I found the old videos, and I loved what I saw. When you were picked up, I was happy. I avidly watched the first several episodes, but it didn't last. Gradually, the show moved from thoughtful to preachy. It seemed like you were pandering to the snobbier fans. I'm not saying you sold out, but something changed. This episode moved firmly back into the thoughtful camp, dropping all pretension in favor of a solid idea. This episode was great, and leaving TE was a good move.

This video was great, and I'm looking forward to next week's episode -- something I haven't done since, oh I don't know, episode six?

 

[Sparky184]

Thank you!

I thought it was finished but I guess it's just on YT now!

 

[Kopikatsu]

Oh god... so much bettwer quality than the escapist vids (in terms of video and sound quality, not content) Im sorry but it is. Its just so jarring to realise how poor the uploads have had to be here.

Seems a bit soon for a new vid after the whole implosion thing but i guess its saying "We are still here without you **finger**" and i guess they are still dedicated to weekly vids.

They have to continue on as business as usual. They can't allow an issue with someone stop them from working. For both legal and an non-legal reasons. They claim they have rights to the Extra Credits IP, so they are using that right.

They aren't claiming they have the IP. They very specifically were trying to get it back from the Escapist.

Them posting a new Extra Credits video really is a huge middle finger towards the Escapist, because, as others have mentioned, the Escapist could sue them to the point where the Extra Credits team would be ruined, but it would also be the final nail in the coffin for The Escapist.

So...James is technically doing something illegal, but he can't be called on it. I call that a dick move, if nothing else.

 

[Ghengis John]

Hmmm Bacon vs Narwhal. Not a match-up I'd ever personally considered. I'm gonna have to give this one to narwhal. But then again, who knows what the criteria is.

 

[teebeeohh]

why not put the whole thing in space? you have a mothership/fleet and harvest resources by building outposts on asteroids/planets and the units are limited by the space in dropships and the number of dropships a combat zone can support. You even can explain what happens to the fleet when you log out, space is big and you are invisibly when not moving.
and for some reason there are no ship-to-ship weapons.

 

[Geo Da Sponge]

I think what could work is if, in addition to what was said in the video, players had a larger points total to draw from the longer they'd been playing, like the system used in online poker. When you fight with, say, a 1500 point army you are effectively 'wagering' it against your opponents. This would mean that longer-term players could take part in more apocalyptic games, adding a brilliant incentive to continue playing. It would still have to be set up so that you would almost certainly get more points from playing and losing than from not playing at all, as you wouldn't want to lose less capable players.

Well, shit.

I'm not too familiar with IP or copyright laws (read: "not at all"), but since they're not getting paid for it, I think they'll be safe.

Youtube ads, they're getting paid.

They won't get money from ads unless they get a Partner Account. They won't get that unless they consistantly pull in thousands of viewers and for an account with 1 video that is still a while off.

On the contrary, I was offered a Youtube partnership for a video with barely 10,000 views.

 

[Okysho]

why not put the whole thing in space? you have a mothership/fleet and harvest resources by building outposts on asteroids/planets and the units are limited by the space in dropships and the number of dropships a combat zone can support. You even can explain what happens to the fleet when you log out, space is big and you are invisibly when not moving.
and for some reason there are no ship-to-ship weapons.

I was thinking something like this, but instead you have a planet rather than a mothership (eliminating the ship-to-ship weapon thing)

 

[targren]

is it just me, or did they leave one site where the "only sometimes got paid" and joined a site where they won't get paid at all, only to have someone repost the same material on the original site anyway, deliberately depriving that site of ad revenue thereby influencing it's ability to pay other contributers, potentially giving rise to similar problems, rinse, repeat, etc?

seems like kind of a dick move more than anything else

in either case... great video, if somewhat idealistic, as per usual

No. It's just you. With the loss of the infrastructure needed to host their videos, and the fact that they don't have their own, they had to find somewhere else with the infrastructure to host videos.

Surprise, that's what YouTube was made for.

 

[Tanis]

I really would love to see a 4X MMO myself.

Nothing against RTS, but I think a 4X - set in space - would work better.

You'd start off in your own little solar system and go from there.
Setting up whole galaxies to control.

 

[DuelLadyS]

Oh this is not what I wanted AT ALL!! I want Extra Credits and the Escapist to resolve their differences, realize they ARE in fact fighting for the same cause (that is the advancement of Gaming as a medium, no matter how difficult the journey) and continue to work together with mutual understanding!
Please James, if you read this: I know you're mad, and I COMPLETELY understand.....but give them another shot. Try and works things out. I'll beg on your metaphorical internet feet!

I understand how you feel... honestly, I'd rather EC remain a part of my daily Escapist wanderings... but I also understand there's a lot more at play here than a 'kiss and make up' can handle. I'll settle for EC continuing in any form, and perhaps someday everyone will get their ducks in a row that we can see the Escapist relationship repaired.

In the meanwhile, I have to do check out the early EC Youtube videos I didn't know existed until today. Finally, someone tells me excactly what the Uncanny Valley is!

 

[Dr Snakeman]

Like I said in the main thread:

Anyone who watches the video and likes what they see should subscribe. They only have 3,503 subscribers right now, which is NO WHERE NEAR enough to get a Youtube Partnership and start running ads on the videos, if they want to keep getting paid for them.

If they're just fishing for a new publisher, than maybe it's not as important, but if they stay on Youtube for any length of time, they need to collect more views/subscribers.

Quoted for truth. If they're going to make money, they need a partnership, and for that, they need subscribers. Do your part.

Oh, and I've calmed down significantly since yesterday. I'm not dumping this site just because of a business dispute. I mean, I'm still not a fan of the Escapist brass, but that's no reason to forsake MovieBob's musings and Yahtzee's profanity-soaked fury.

 

[teebeeohh]

why not put the whole thing in space? you have a mothership/fleet and harvest resources by building outposts on asteroids/planets and the units are limited by the space in dropships and the number of dropships a combat zone can support. You even can explain what happens to the fleet when you log out, space is big and you are invisibly when not moving.
and for some reason there are no ship-to-ship weapons.

I was thinking something like this, but instead you have a planet rather than a mothership (eliminating the ship-to-ship weapon thing)

and portals get your troops to a new destination?
that's even better, when you are offline so is the portal on your planet and you can't be attacked.