xaszatm said:
I'm more on the defensive because the other site I'm on bashes Nintendo with such ferocity it pisses me off.
Experience tells me this is probably more mild criticism. Like, literally 99% of Nintendo "hate" is blown out of proportion. Okay, maybe literally 80% and figuratively 19%. And you have now called reasonable comments you had specifically just balked at and referenced bashing Nintendo. Maybe you're too defensive.
Also, it's not Nintendo's fault that people mistakingly believed the NX would come out last year.
Not the point. This whole thing is damaging, which is exactly why you're in every single Nintendo thread I post in doing damage control. Nintendo doesn't have to fix this problem, but I didn't say they had to. Nintendo is within its right to switch to making pogs for all I care, but what they're doing right now is stupid, and trying to argue who's at fault doesn't solve things.
Fine. It's not Nintendo's fault. What now? They till have the problem that people are uninformed about the NX, about what it is, what it does, and when it will come out. This is likely hurting them. Now it actually is in Nintendo's court to fix that if they want to. Because you telling me what the NX is isn't helpful. Telling me it wasn't Nintendo's fault isn't helpful. Accusing people of bashing Nintendo isn't helpful. And I see Loonyyyyyy has already beaten me to this portion, so I'll leave it short.
Also, since you mentioned Microsoft before, what you are doing? It's the exact same thing the Xbox diehards did after Microsoft's shitty announcement that deserved scorn. I cannot for the life of me imagine being so invested in a product that I cannot accept criticism of it, so maybe I'm the odd one out here. But the funny thing about that? I get this sort of hostility from every camp. I mean, I've owned every PlayStation thus far (PSP AND Vita), but mild criticism of them will get me branded a hater, or a fangirl for Nintendo or Microsoft. Ditto the big M, who spent a year or two digging a hole and whose fans scream at you if you point it out so people don't trip.
God, people wonder why I'm more reticent to post and discuss things these days, it's exactly because of this. You cannot have a cogent argument without brigading.
Hairless Mammoth said:
A) They want to keep that info away from the competitors for as long as possible. (See how Sony themselves trashed MS when the Xbone's original DRM plan was revealed.) I'm sure MS and Sony still keep tabs on Nintendo, even if all three have said in the past that they're no longer direct competitors.
B) They may still be working out bugs and aren't ready to announce the full feature set yet.
C) The official announcement of what it is and when it comes out may be prolific enough for the general public to catch wind of the details. If it really does completely replace the Wii U and/or 3DS, sales of those could plummet long before the NX is on shelves. The Wii U sold surprisingly decent this shopping season, and it probably would not have done as well with concrete evidence of its obsolescence on the horizon. They may even want the Wii U to do well for another year in order to sell the upcoming titles (some of which may be unknown to the public until E3) for the system.
None of this particularly goes to what I said, though. Specifying what kind of console we're talking doesn't require them to have a full feature set, or all the bugs worked out, or to divulge trade secrets. The announcement may clarify things, but how does that help them now, when it's not announced? How did it help them in November of 2015, when people were holding out for the NX over the Wii U or 3DS?
So far, what we've got is that it's not the next Wii or Wii U. Well, except the last time Nintendo said that--the DS--it was bullshit, so I already have limited faith in them. NDS was totes going to be the third pillar, a new and different experience, and not a Game Boy replacement. Oh, wait.
Look at it this way. I write novels. More for therapy than anything else, but hear me out. I have three completed and a fourth I'm working on. I can't tell you the exact details of the fifth. I can tell you some things, though:
Barring my death at the hands of angry ferrets, I will write a fifth.
I can tell you which of two series it belongs to.
I can tell you an estimated start and finish time.
I can tell you a basic plot synopsis. Now, this is where you start to approach the issue of not giving away trade secrets for a console, but you can give two and three without doing that. And yes, 3 can change, but that doesn't mean you can't offer a tentative time scale. So far, we've got that an announcement will happen sometime in 2016. Which has been taken by news outlets to mean the NX is coming in 2016.
If I were Nintendo, I'd get on this shit. Like, right away.
To use the novel example again, if I had announced an upcoming novel (assume I actually had the spine to get published), and people decided to start telling the world it was about abusive vampires who sparkle and play baseball, I would probably want to correct that. It doesn't mean I have to release the first three chapters online, just that I would want to confirm/deny what the information was saying before it did damage. Or have some sort of press agent handle it.
Nintendo's sitting around and saying nothing, and people have believed it's going to replace the Wii U or New 3DS. This hurts business. Or a bunch of other things. Clear, concise communication could work wonders.
...god, I love alliteration.
And this is where I came in. Nintendo could clear this up right fast, but they're being super cagey about it. That increases distrust with everyo.e but the diehards.
Although now that the holidays are over with, I sure would like some details as well. With all of the anticipation, the amount of rumors on NX might pile up to the point people could start confusing what is true and what isn't.
But that's the thing. That's my whole point. We've already got to that point. We were at that point last year. During the holiday season. This is the sort of thing where Nintendo should have wanted to correct things. NX is a replacement for the Wii U/3DS. It isn't. It has VR. It is VR. It's neither of those. It's actually the codename for a service, and "console" is figurative. It's a blender. They're going back to card games. Amiibos are made from the souls of workers who displeased Iwata.
Hell, whether or not it's a direct successor to the Wii U, I would like to know if it's going to have Wii U compatibility as the DS did for the totally different pillar GBA. This is assuming it's a home console, but still. I don't want to buy a Wii U now and then a new console in 6 months, for example, especially if the NX is something I actually want (whereas Wii U has only now got the the point where I can really justify a purchase).
OT: Nintendo might as well get back into TV shows and movies. (Though, they better make sure the contracts give them ultimate vetoing power for some of the stupid ideas Hollywood cooks up and have representatives looking over scripts and whatnot every so often.)
I would love to see someone do a good Zelda movie. Or any of a bunch of other characters, but I'd love to see an epic adventure in Hyrule. They definitely do need to take care and make sure we don't have another Super Mario movie, but still. I mean, I'd like to see more serious attempts at game movies, period. I'd like to see someoen do to game movies what Marvel did to superhero movies. And Nintendo's got this huge roster of franchises people know and love.
