New nuclear power plants in the UK, and the downfall of humanity

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DTWolfwood

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Same thing happened in Malaysia. Though the nuke material for the power was being supplied by Pakistan, which in all fairness may seem sketchy.
 

Fluffythepoo

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Power the plants with thorium instead of uranium. Literally problem solved. Plant leaks? Whatever its thorium, it does fuck all. Want to make a bomb with it? Its fucking thorium, you cant! Having trouble finding some? Well youre a dumbass because its more plentiful than uranium and you found that shit easy.
 

Henkie36

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I get why people are so scared about nuclear energy. I can even sum it up in two words: Chernobyl and Fukushima. Both I think are invalid arguments. Chernobyl was an experiment gone horribly wrong, because the reactor was poorly maintained and they had deliberatly disabled nearly all of the security features to run some tests. No need to explain what else happend. Then Fukushima. Well, I don't think it's fair to ask for any building to survive an earthquake that will rock your world (no pun intended) and a tsunami that would make the one from 2004 in Indonesia look like someone threw a rock in you pond. Those are situations that don't happen in England, not in the least because scientists have learned a lot from both those situations in a sort of how not to do it guide.
Nuclear energy is perfectly safe, but I don't see it as the permanent solution. It's more of a stepping stone towards fusion, with which science has been making making some big steps recently (we are now at something like 60% efficiency with JET, look it up), but since all we have for the moment is nuclear, I guess it'll just have to do.
 

WanderingFool

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While Im certainly not against nuclear power, im not completely fine with it. But seeing as Solar and Wind power isnt as efficient as nuclear in making power, I can atleast say im fine with it.

Also, on the subject of Fukishima, should it be mentioned that Japan sits on the geographical equivalent of a tower made of Jenga blocks?
 

GonzoGamer

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I'm learning that there are some stupid people who think that a tsunami is the only thing that can cause problems with a nuclear power plant. Admit it, as power sources go, nuclear power isn't YET the best.

I wouldn't write it off. I wouldn't write any power source off but they need to be refined. Solar power used to be a complete waste of money but it's been refined enough that someone can at least power their home and contribute to the local power company...shit, even in the UK. It still needs to be refined, at least in the sense of manufacturing the "panels" but it's at least worth the money now.

Nuclear power has been refined quite a bit but on the outside chance that something does go haywire, you can end up with much bigger problems than people out of power. On the other hand it is really cheap.

The most interesting energy source I've seen lately is Skunkworks which is being developed by Lockheed of all things. I think it was mentioned on this site too. If they can get that working, it'll blow nuclear, solar, wind, and everything else out of the water.
 

Level 7 Dragon

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Here, in Russia, our government it going full gas on the nuclear power stations.

I know that it is safe, but again, share the general concern, since, well, Chernobyl.

One of the reasons for the disaster in Ukrane, as most people think, was intested tech. So, as long as it was done and being done by lots of other countries, I see no problem.

Being a nuclear pioneer is what is truly terrifying.
 

Headdrivehardscrew

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I love and support nuclear power.

Wind farms are... not a proper alternative. There is no proper alternative.

Are you up to date on the money burning scheme that is alternative power or the partial scam that is renewable power? Every time I decide to check on solar power (a pet peeve of mine), the news range mostly from bad to devastating.

There are a lot of emotions in this undying debate. Very little actual knowledge or smarts. And that's why I usually prefer to stay the hell away from them. At least on teh interwebz.
 

NinjaSocks333

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People realize that for fukishima to melt down, it had to be hit by a earthquake and then a TSUNAMI. Chernobyl exploded because of improper safety protocols during a test of the turbines, which lead to a unstable reactor. Nuclear plants are generally pretty safe, and when there is an accident, it is due to human error or outstanding circumstances.
 

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Nuclear power is the way forward... just not with the present nuclear fuels we are using... take Thorium for example, it's abundant and produces much less radioactive waste... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorium
 

CpT_x_Killsteal

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Why isn't anyone mentioning Solar energy? If they just managed to get solar panels on alot of the houses then that'd help em quite alot.

But then again, from what I hear the UK can be quite dreary and overcast.
 

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CpT_x_Killsteal said:
Why isn't anyone mentioning Solar energy? If they just managed to get solar panels on alot of the houses then that'd help em quite alot.

But then again, from what I hear the UK can be quite dreary and overcast.
It has been mentioned a few times, even on the first page. And it's because they're awful.
There is a huge amount of energy required to produce these panels, the rare earth materials mean expensive mining, mostly in China since they practically have a monopoly on those and the output per square metre on a regular rooftop isn't too great either.
 

CpT_x_Killsteal

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As far as I can make out, the only real way to make solar energy viable would be to place a massive space station into space and collect the energy using a gigantic solar collection dish, which would then beam the energy down to Earth.
Quaxar said:
CpT_x_Killsteal said:
It has been mentioned a few times, even on the first page. And it's because they're awful.
There is a huge amount of energy required to produce these panels, the rare earth materials mean expensive mining, mostly in China since they practically have a monopoly on those and the output per square metre on a regular rooftop isn't too great either.
Works like a charm here in Australia. Neighbours don't pay for electricity anymore, because they end up selling their excess :p. I'm not saying run everything off Solar power, as I don't think that would work. But on homes where they're installed, they more than pay for themselves in 10 years.