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Abedeus

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Is a SSD actually worth the huge amount of money though (money vs. capacity I mean)?
SSDs aren't about capacity, they're all about the speed. If you <3 fast boots you'll buy one, if you don't care, you don't care. If you have regularly used software, you put it on your SSD and it starts faster.
Fast reads, slow writes.

It's unnecessary, but if I was building a dream computer I might have one. My friend has 2 in his computer, as well as a 1TB HDD and 3TB RAID5 Array. He clearly <3s them, I'm somewhat ambivalent about those few seconds you save every day.

's up to you.
Yeah, but a 256GB SSD costs as much as a new GeForce GPU...
 

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Get a better cooling system for your CPU or get water cooling for your Case (if you get water, get a shop to install it). I find that the standard cooling fan for CPUs isn't the best if you're doing serious games. It also allows over clocking without overheating.
Also remember, you can have the biggest heat sink in the world but it's worth nothing if your thermal paste is crap, so buy good thermal paste too. Arctic Silver is a good one, I recommend it.
 

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The blu-ray drive is because I have a PS3 and a Blu Ray player so I wouldn't mind burning some Hi Def things (and copying rentals ahem...)
Check the price of blank BR media before you commit to the idea. Cheapest I've ever seen them is AU$15/disk.
i've seen spindles of 20 for 50 bucks.
 

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1) Psu is enough
2) Getting a better CPU isn't advisable, there is little difference in computing power.
3) Unless you REALLY want to have nvidia and you want an SLI system in the future, then I see no reason waiting for 480
4) You should really consider adding an SSD drive (if you have spare money that is)
5) Case: Unless you are the extreme overclocking hardcore user, I recommend any full-tower case, but here's some suggestions anyway:
This is the best case I can think of: http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=6638

This is also good: http://www.antec.com/Believe_it/product.php?id=Njkz
 

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that looks like a good build but why are you using an intel processor you can get an amd and it will work better with your GPU and it runs on reduced instruction set witch is better than the complete instruction set that intel uses good choice on the board gigabyte does hardcore boards with 2 biso chips
and a 750W psu will be plenty of power you could get away with a 550 or a 600 and get a case that has good cooling those radeon cards run hot as i had to beef up the cooling system in my machine because my sapphire 4870 1 gb runs really really hot its absurd i saw it at like 54 degrees one time before i modded my case
 

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Your specs seem fine, that is a duel-core processor right? 5870's a great card, and 6GB is about the norm for a gaming computer with windows 7.

Make sure you get a Gigabyte PSU (that's a brand, it doesn't have actual memory in it lol), they're as quiet as a mouse burglar in a church...
 

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Hmm damn, id love to help Thomas...but i lazily ordered mine built...i probably should learn to do my own things like a grown up.
Yes. Yes you should :p
Well I prefer having custom built things anyway because A)i know what I'm doing and B) if something goes wrong, it's easier narrowing it down. Oh and C)Usualy prebuilt computers come with a bunch of shit software that fuck up your shit.
 

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that looks like a good build but why are you using an intel processor you can get an amd and it will work better with your GPU and it runs on reduced instruction set witch is better than the complete instruction set that intel uses good choice on the board gigabyte does hardcore boards with 2 biso chips
and a 750W psu will be plenty of power you could get away with a 550 or a 600 and get a case that has good cooling those radeon cards run hot as i had to beef up the cooling system in my machine because my sapphire 4870 1 gb runs really really hot its absurd i saw it at like 54 degrees one time before i modded my case
Although you bring up this point with literally ZERO PUNCTUATION, it is still something I wonder about.

Who is currently making better high end processors? Intel or AMD?
 

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That is a beast. Go for it. Though do go for a quality branded PSU.

I have an Antec 900 case. Some say it's ugly, but it keeps things damn cool.

If you have 6GB of RAM, I presume you're going to use Win 7 64, since 32 bit will make up to 3GB of that useless (32bit has a 4GB limit of RAM plus video card memory.)

RhomCo said:
The_Healer said:
Who is currently making better high end processors? Intel or AMD?

Depends on your criteria... Currently I think it's Intel by a bee's dick in most areas.



And yes, it took a lot for me to admit that.
I suppose you could wait for Intel's line of six core processors, but they'll be A) pushing £1000 in the UK, dunno about AUS B) Only for bragging rights, really. I don't think there's much at all to be gained unless you're really worried about your e-peen.
 

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Ultimately, I don't think I can say anything more than what's already been said. CPU is plenty, GPU is plenty, RAM is plenty. Just make sure you get a good power supply, case and a 64-bit operating system (32-bit OS's will indeed render half your RAM useless).
 

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I don't think there's much at all to be gained unless you're really worried about your e-peen.
If you're really worried about your e-peen you go for server racks. :D


I only say that because if I had the cash I'd have myself a rack mounted renderfarm in the tallest server cabinet I could lay my grubby mitts on.
 

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The_Healer said:
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Who is currently making better high end processors? Intel or AMD?
Intel by leaps, bounds, and price points.

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Is that easy to do? And safe? Damn I feel like a massive rookie.
It's fairly easy as long as you stay careful while you do it. But honestly, the 930 is extremely fast and there is very little reason to want to overclock it.
 

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The_Healer said:
Is a SSD actually worth the huge amount of money though (money vs. capacity I mean)?
Be careful with SSDs. There are a couple of caveats with purchasing them.

1) Unless you get the really expensive ones, there isn't a significant performance difference between, say, Raptors and SSD for every day use. In the case of the cheaper SSDs, their write speeds can actually be slower than standard drives.
2) SSDs use volatile memory, which has a hard limit on the number of write cycles which can be performed on each block. Is that limit applicable for most end-users? That is debatable, but it is something to consider before you purchase it.

I've used computers with and without, and I didn't notice a difference that would make me willing to pay the price point.

YMMV, just my $.02.
 

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caemsg said:
that looks like a good build but why are you using an intel processor you can get an amd and it will work better with your GPU and it runs on reduced instruction set witch is better than the complete instruction set that intel uses...
All x86 chips (both Intel and AMD) use CISC instruction sets.
 

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crimson5pheonix said:
SL33TBL1ND said:
crimson5pheonix said:
SL33TBL1ND said:
The_Healer said:
Now I know this topic has been done before, but computer technology moves at a rate of knots so any previous threads are somewhat useless at this point.

Anyway, disclaimer aside, I am going to build my own PC within the next month and want to know, in your collective opinion, what components are going to be best for me.

My budget is around $2500 Australian (although I'd prefer to keep it closer to 2000 unless there is a good reason not to). I will be using this PC for a bit of gaming and want something that will be able to run most games for the next few years at reasonable settings. Also it would be nice if it was reliable.

I already have a fair idea of what I want, but I'm sure there are a lot of people with a lot more experience than me around the escapist. At current this is my list (with queries in brackets):

Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R Motherboard

Intel Core i7 930: 2.80ghz (is it worth getting a 960?)

Gigabyte ATi Radeon HD 5870 (should I wait for a Geforce GTX 480?)

6GB 1600 MHz Memory (too much or not enough?)

Pioneer BDR-205BK 12X Blu-Ray Writer Drive (needed, not negotiable)

Any Mid Size Tower Case (suggestions?)

Any 750W power supply (enough power? suggestions on brand?)
I already have a 1 TB hdd so that's not an issue.
You don't just have to answer the questions, if I have it completely wrong feel free to shout at me for my rookie errors.

Thanks for any helpful contributions!
Pretty good, I'd get an Antec 900 II for your case, and don't wait for the 480, its a single GPU.
So what if it's a single GPU? The HD5870 is a single GPU as well.
I'm just saying he should wait for a dual 480 or something, that's what I'd do.
True. But that's only for true hardcore gaming. If all you want is serious gaming with good video editing, the 480 is more than good enough. You know the 495 or whatever it's going to be called is going to cost a mint.
I guess he does have a budget to keep.
 

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SL33TBL1ND said:
crimson5pheonix said:
SL33TBL1ND said:
crimson5pheonix said:
SL33TBL1ND said:
The_Healer said:
Now I know this topic has been done before, but computer technology moves at a rate of knots so any previous threads are somewhat useless at this point.

Anyway, disclaimer aside, I am going to build my own PC within the next month and want to know, in your collective opinion, what components are going to be best for me.

My budget is around $2500 Australian (although I'd prefer to keep it closer to 2000 unless there is a good reason not to). I will be using this PC for a bit of gaming and want something that will be able to run most games for the next few years at reasonable settings. Also it would be nice if it was reliable.

I already have a fair idea of what I want, but I'm sure there are a lot of people with a lot more experience than me around the escapist. At current this is my list (with queries in brackets):

Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R Motherboard

Intel Core i7 930: 2.80ghz (is it worth getting a 960?)

Gigabyte ATi Radeon HD 5870 (should I wait for a Geforce GTX 480?)

6GB 1600 MHz Memory (too much or not enough?)

Pioneer BDR-205BK 12X Blu-Ray Writer Drive (needed, not negotiable)

Any Mid Size Tower Case (suggestions?)

Any 750W power supply (enough power? suggestions on brand?)
I already have a 1 TB hdd so that's not an issue.
You don't just have to answer the questions, if I have it completely wrong feel free to shout at me for my rookie errors.

Thanks for any helpful contributions!
Pretty good, I'd get an Antec 900 II for your case, and don't wait for the 480, its a single GPU.
So what if it's a single GPU? The HD5870 is a single GPU as well.
I'm just saying he should wait for a dual 480 or something, that's what I'd do.
True. But that's only for true hardcore gaming. If all you want is serious gaming with good video editing, the 480 is more than good enough. You know the 495 or whatever it's going to be called is going to cost a mint.
I guess he does have a budget to keep.
Yup. Besides, dual video chip cards don't always give a speed boost in games.