fixedCopper Zen said:Fail. D:Rastien said:Let the true heir to this position be allowed back into power.
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Images from that link don't show up here. But you've go me curious===fix it! FIX IIIIIITT!!!
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Cthulhu wouldn't stoop THAT low. Be fair now.Sixcess said:Wrong Emperor, and clearly Benedict is not strong enough in the dark side.Aerodyamic said:Considering the physical appearance of the current Pope, I was actually EXPECTING the Catholic Church to try and pull a "Golden Throne".
The next Pope should be Christopher Lee, Cthulhu or the ghost of Andy Warhol.
I'm convinced that Christopher Lee is a demi-lich.Johnny Novgorod said:I would love to see Christopher show up in full Saruman garb on a Vatican balconySixcess said:Wrong Emperor, and clearly Benedict is not strong enough in the dark side.Aerodyamic said:Considering the physical appearance of the current Pope, I was actually EXPECTING the Catholic Church to try and pull a "Golden Throne".
The next Pope should be Christopher Lee, Cthulhu or the ghost of Andy Warhol.![]()
Damn! I'm not a catholic, but i would love to see that.Johnny Novgorod said:I would love to see Christopher show up in full Saruman garb on a Vatican balconySixcess said:Wrong Emperor, and clearly Benedict is not strong enough in the dark side.Aerodyamic said:Considering the physical appearance of the current Pope, I was actually EXPECTING the Catholic Church to try and pull a "Golden Throne".
The next Pope should be Christopher Lee, Cthulhu or the ghost of Andy Warhol.![]()
There are a lot of reasons to dislike the guy, number 1 being his role in covering up the mass child abuse scandal for which he should most certainly be put on trial. Of course, no one in the international community is bothered with that, which is why the British government shelled out and gave him a statesman's welcome a couple of years ago and praised his ability to provide a "moral compass" or whatever it was.thaluikhain said:Well...the current Pope wasn't a great choice of figurehead. He used to run what the Inquisition became, and he was a former member of the Hitler Youth. Yes, I know that doesn't automatically make him a Nazi, but regardless of the truth, it makes him, and by extension the Catholic Church, look bad. If they'd have picked someone whose history looked more palatable, it'd have helped the PR of the church, which is always useful.
Isn't there also a house of Cardinals, which is like the senate?Copper Zen said:The pope is the church. He dictates, and I do mean DICTATES the church's official policy. The church has traditions and habits (no pun intended) but the office of the pope is a very real dictatorship. And never forget that the pope IS a recognized head of state.
Yeah, this is that kind of a big thing.
However much I differ in so many ways from the Roman Catholic Church's teachings and beliefs I respect the Church for its longevity: The Roman Catholic Church has existed and functioned for the better part of 2000 years. That places it into some very, very rare company as far as human organizations go. Studying its history is a study of how the human race has changed over the last 2000 years: Both how it has changed the world and how the world has changed it.
I'd be amazed if this isn't what happened. Jean Paul II was at least lucid up until death; I think a seriously disabled Pope would be really difficult to deal with.WoW Killer said:Which made me think; maybe Benedict was diagnosed with some sort of dementia, like Alzheimer's. If he was just getting old and frail physically, he'd still be able to carry out all the normal Pope-y things, wouldn't he? Just strap him up in the Pope-mobile and he only has to smile and wave (the smiling is probably optional), and maybe read a bit. But if his mind was deteriorating, and he'd been told that it was only going to get worse over time, that's the sort of thing that'd make you think about stepping down.
The bishops together are the teaching authority of the Church, the Pope is the head. The college of cardinals is just a special subset of bishops that have more influence and vote on the next Pope.saintdane05 said:Isn't there also a house of Cardinals, which is like the senate?Copper Zen said:The pope is the church. He dictates, and I do mean DICTATES the church's official policy. The church has traditions and habits (no pun intended) but the office of the pope is a very real dictatorship. And never forget that the pope IS a recognized head of state.
Yeah, this is that kind of a big thing.
However much I differ in so many ways from the Roman Catholic Church's teachings and beliefs I respect the Church for its longevity: The Roman Catholic Church has existed and functioned for the better part of 2000 years. That places it into some very, very rare company as far as human organizations go. Studying its history is a study of how the human race has changed over the last 2000 years: Both how it has changed the world and how the world has changed it.
I *am* actually a practicing Catholic.SckizoBoy said:He's the first pope to abdicate for 598 years (Gregory XII in 1415) and third in history (Pontian in 235 IIRC).
That's pretty good going, considering how militaristic the Vatican used to be... though I'm sure there were their fair share of 'suspicious deaths'. Anyway, considering his age when he became Pope, not surprised really.
And I'm a Protestant, so not really bothered... -_-
It's not a surprise the church would be slow to modernize. Even younger hard-core Christians of any denomination frequently utter "The world may change, but God doesn't" in attempt to justify the their tenacious hold on to a belief system that had to be dragged, kicking and screaming, to accept that the world was round. Modernization and change is probably the last thing on their "to do" list.darth gditch said:I *am* actually a practicing Catholic.SckizoBoy said:He's the first pope to abdicate for 598 years (Gregory XII in 1415) and third in history (Pontian in 235 IIRC).
That's pretty good going, considering how militaristic the Vatican used to be... though I'm sure there were their fair share of 'suspicious deaths'. Anyway, considering his age when he became Pope, not surprised really.
And I'm a Protestant, so not really bothered... -_-
And it's certainly interesting. There are some rules on retiring as a Pope, namely that it has to be done free of coercion and be properly documented, but other than that, there's nothing saying you can't.
Largely, I'm unmoved by the event, though I will miss being able to make Darth Benidictus jokes. I do admire Benedict's courage in admitting he can't do his job anymore. That's HUGE for a pope, as they are elected for life and there is an unspoken duty to remain pontiff for life. Benedict is actually admitting that the Church needs a strong and able leader in the current age.
However, the current voting members of the college of cardinals are made up exclusively of cardinals either Benedict XVI or his immediate predecessor John Paul II appointed. So, it is highly unlikely for there to be a radical shift in Church policy.
I would *like* to see a younger, more engaged pope be chosen. Someone who can truly understand the role of the Church in modern age, which has changed considerably. This is unlikely to happen, though, and we're likely to get yet another theologically similar leader, who will make small modernizing changes at an almost unnoticeable pace, in tune with what the last 4 popes have done.
There hasn't been a real force for the modernization of the Church since the 1960's with John XXIII.