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kilehh

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Hey guys. So I have a Dell Dimension E510 and it's only a few years old. However, the only thing holding it back is its present video/graphics card, which is an Intel 8294G Express Chipset Family. I'm looking to buy a new card but I'm not really sure which would be the best choice when it comes to compatibility to my computer. Any suggestion for a new RAM is also accepted. Thanks for listening. All opinions are appreciated. (Focus, obviously, is on gaming.)

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Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
Memory: 1014MB RAM
 

the_dancy_vagrant

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If I'm not entirely mistaken, the Intel 8294G is an integrated graphics chipset. If that's the case, then you can't really get yourself a new video card unless you've got a PCI express slot open. Which you might not, a lot of bundled/integrated systems like this may have a lane open but it's likely to be the slower, crappier one that's meant for non-video PCI-E cards. I could be wrong, though. If I am, I'd take a look at some ATI cards from now kind of defunct 4850 line. They're pretty cheap due to newer cards having been released and from what I've heard they're quite powerful. That being said, you might have to upgrade your power supply to use one - most graphics cards require special connections (6-pin) to operate and if your power supply isn't up to par it will make your system very crash-y.

As for RAM, DDR2 is ridiculously cheap at the moment, but you'll be limited to a max of <4 gigs due to XP being 32-bit. That's not a huge deal, though - 2 gigs is probably enough memory to play a pretty fair number of newer games.

Just keep in mind that even if all my suggestions work out for you, you won't be playing anything brand new with everything set to 'high' unless you really like playing at 10 frames per second.
 

Pimppeter2

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I honestly have no input whatsoever. I don't even know why I entered this page. In fact I'm pretty dumb when it comes to computers. Please take this as my formal apology OP. Too much redbull and the escapist do not mix well. I think the guy behind me is staring at me funny. I should stop thinking out loud.
 

Calatar

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kilehh said:
the only thing holding it back is its present video/graphics card
Other Computer Specs:
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Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
Memory: 1GB
This is not the only thing holding it back. As said above though, your "video card" is an integrated chipset; 1st check that you have a free PCI-Express Slot open on your motherboard, then buy a new card.
Don't go for a top-of-the-line card; your other components would never be able to match it, and video capability is expensive.

I recommend buying a 2GB stick of RAM, and probably a midline card such as the 7600GT. Doesn't have DX10 capability, but neither does XP. This is the card I've been using for quite some time now, and it's been able to handle Mass Effect at high settings, among other things. I've been pretty satisfied with it, and now it's gotten cheaper.
Get whatever graphics card you'd like, but I'd think spending over $100 on one with the system you have would be overkill.
 

Dys

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Calatar said:
kilehh said:
the only thing holding it back is its present video/graphics card
Other Computer Specs:
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Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
Memory: 1GB
This is not the only thing holding it back. As said above though, your "video card" is an integrated chipset; 1st check that you have a free PCI-Express Slot open on your motherboard, then buy a new card.
Don't go for a top-of-the-line card; your other components would never be able to match it, and video capability is expensive.

I recommend buying a 2GB stick of RAM, and probably a midline card such as the 7600GT. Doesn't have DX10 capability, but neither does XP. This is the card I've been using for quite some time now, and it's been able to handle Mass Effect at high settings, among other things. I've been pretty satisfied with it, and now it's gotten cheaper.
Get whatever graphics card you'd like, but I'd think spending over $100 on one with the system you have would be overkill.
Seems like pretty solid advice, so probably worth sticking to. Worth noting, however, that your computer may not have a PCI-X slot, if it doesn't and has an AGP slot, the ATI 2600 series was release with AGP if I'm not mistaken. If you can get the 7600GT (if you have the free slot) steer clear of ASUS graphics cards, I've had two (though both were 8800GTS, so a different card) die in my household and had a friend with an ASUS 7600GT that died. In my experience they are very unreliable.
 

Sightless Wisdom

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Yeah like others have said, ensure you have a free PC-I slot. But assuming you do....wel what kind of card are you looking for, what's your budget, what games do you want to play. More information please!
 

Snotnarok

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Pent 4 is a bit outdated, more games seem to be hooking on to dual core and more, and 1 gb of ram is really low.

I'm running a
2.66 dual core
4gb DDR2 RAM
XFX GeForce 9800GTX+
 

ReepNeep

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I'm running a Radeon 4800x Pro Series, Awh yeah.
How very nice for you.

On topic: What resolution is your monitor? That will make a big difference in how much video power you need. With a 1680x1050 display like i've got your don't need anything bigger than a Radeon 4870 512mb which can be had for less than 150 USD.

In addition to checking if you have a PCIe 16x slot, you'll also need to check to see if your Power Supply (PSU) has the neccessiary power cables to plug into the card. High end cards often need two pin or one eight pin power connectors. Mid range cards typically need one six pin connector. The only game worthy card I can think of off the top of my head that doesn't require an extra power connector is the Radeon 4670 which, coincidentally is an OK match for your weak cpu.

You will also want to upgrade to 2 or 4 GB of ram. From what I can tell, that model uses DDR2 so you should be able to do that easily for less than 100USD.

It also seems like it has a video card slot of some sort from the sites I read, but they don't specify which kind.

You'll need to make sure of all of this stuff before you buy any new parts.
 

ratix2

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Snotnarok said:
Pent 4 is a bit outdated, more games seem to be hooking on to dual core and more, and 1 gb of ram is really low.

I'm running a
2.66 dual core
4gb DDR2 RAM
XFX GeForce 9800GTX+
pentium 4s are also really horrible processors. it takes a 5+ghz pentium 4 to perform as well as an athlon 64 fx-55.

in any case, first check to see whether you have a pci-express x16 slot, an agp slot or just pci slots. here are what they look like

pci-express x16: http://www.karbosguide.com/books/pcarchitecture/images/828.jpg (pci picture is the same link)

pci: http://www.karbosguide.com/books/pcarchitecture/images/828.jpg (the pci slots are the smaller white ones, the pci-x16 slot is the larger, black one)

agp: http://www.tutorialforfree.co.cc/en/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/agp_slot1.jpg

if you have a pci-x16 slot than any video card made in the last 5-6 years has a pci-x16 version, so youve got a lot of choices.

if you have agp then the last agp card released was the radeon hd 4670, with other choices being the radeon hd 2900s, radeon x1000 series or the geforce 7000 series and older cards.

if you have pci your choices are even more limited. very few, if any high end graphics (when i say high end i mean high end for the time) have had vanilla pci versions, with most of the lower and some of the middle end cards in each specific series being pci.

if you have a pci-x16 slot id recommend a radeon hd 4870. performance is very good and their pretty cheap these days.

if you have an agp card then try and find a radeon hd 4670, their pretty cheap ($90 on newegg) and the performance is about on par with the 3800s.

if you have a pci slot then your kinda screwed. as i said best youll be able to find is a radeon hd 4300 or geforce 9500, both low to lower-middle end cards, and neither will be up to snuff for newer games. if you have only a pci slot and want to play newer games than id recommend just getting a new computer all together.

now one thing is that depending on the card you choose you may have to get a new power supply. pre-built computers from dell and others dont usually have good power supplies for running a good video card. check what it is, and if its anything less than 450w then you might have to get a new one, as i said, depending on which card you choose.

also, get at least 1gb more ram, but ram is cheap these days so getting a 4gb kit isnt expensive espically if you use ddr2.

finally, while the pentium 4s are bad processors games these days are very much gpu bound and really dont use the processor much. youll probably be able to get away with it for about a year or two without getting a new processor but there may be some games you wont be able to play, but as of now a friend of mine who has my old p4 machine is still able to play all the games coming out these days so like i said, youll be able to get away with it.
 

s3cur1tr0n

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Prolly better off just checking craiglist for a whole new rig. 200$ on a new card or a brand new pc for same amount of money. Im sure you could snap up a core2 rig with a decent gcard for that. Yeah i definetly wouldnt put money in that pc.