New Zelda Built From Twilight Princess?

[Bilbo536]

It's a joke if anyone thinks that this new game is gonna be anything but another retread of Ocarina of Time. Which is technically a retread of Link to the Past. But Nintendo doesn't really need to innovate to hook Zelda loyalists. They'll buy anything with a dork in a green tunic who swings a sword around and yells "Yah!"

Spoiler: I'll show you what I mean, or rather Garth will show you.

Only because there exists no greater premise/concept in video games than "a dork in a green tunic who swings a sword around and yells "Yah!"".

 

[Neshel]

It's also possible that they're using the Twilight Princess world/concepts but they're redesigning it for the Wii?

 

[Valiance]

"We know that Twilight Princess began development as a Gamecube title."

Well, yeah, I think it was more enjoyable on the Gamecube, personally.

Granted, maybe that's only because Link was actually left-handed.

 

[Tonimata]

Hmmmm... a new title?

I'll think one up, from your info - how about The Legend of Zelda: Daylight Prince?

...And the answer to you would be:
Would you really, REALLY like a midget dude riding you when you become a.........
...Opposite of wolf anyone?

 

[Tonimata]

Only because there exists no greater premise/concept in video games than "a dork in a green tunic who swings a sword around and yells "Yah!"".

Which is an out and out lie. If that were the case there wouldn't have been much point to make other games because not every one likes playing the same game they've been making since 1993. There's a reason they call it "a story endlessly retold". They would be lost if they had to come up with something new and original. There are far better games and far better stories out there then Zelda.

Few feel so goddamn epic though. I mean, Zelda has pretty much created it's own lore. That's an accomplishment by my standards.

 

[Nazulu]

If it can top Ocarina of Time then I will forgive them for those abominations Brawl and MKW. So please take as much time as you need Nintendo and show everyone you can still make great quality games.

 

[Billygoat]

Hmmmm... a new title?

I'll think one up, from your info - how about The Legend of Zelda: Daylight Prince?

...And the answer to you would be:
Would you really, REALLY like a midget dude riding you when you become a.........
...Opposite of wolf anyone?

Were-Tiger, y has no one done that before?

 

[Tonimata]

Only because there exists no greater premise/concept in video games than "a dork in a green tunic who swings a sword around and yells "Yah!"".

Which is an out and out lie. If that were the case there wouldn't have been much point to make other games because not every one likes playing the same game they've been making since 1993. There's a reason they call it "a story endlessly retold". They would be lost if they had to come up with something new and original. There are far better games and far better stories out there then Zelda.

Few feel so goddamn epic though. I mean, Zelda has pretty much created it's own lore. That's an accomplishment by my standards.

I agree with you up to a point. I really enjoyed the old 2d Zelda games when they were fresh and new. They were really fun to play, and occasionally I'll break one of the GBA carts out and play it on my DS. It was epic. Then I played Wind Waker much later and it was like I was playing a totally different game. I mean all the set pieces were there, but it felt too different. It was like a well built house made out of legos, and someone took it apart and rebuilt it as a modern art statue. People tell me it's great, but it seems weird and out of place.

Then the same people told me how awesome Ocarina of Time was and that no game was better, or would ever be better. Then I played it and hated it because it was the same story as Link to the Past, only with crappy Wind Waker gameplay. Then when I tell those people I hated it, they get insulted and claim that I would have loved it had I played it when it was released. But somehow I don't think I would have.

I don't hate Zelda, I just hate what it turned into. Kind of the same way I hate what Star Wars has become because I love what it was before. And Navi should die in a fire, be resurrected and then drown in a pool of acid. And then be resurrected again and then left out in a blizzard. Repeat process until I run out of slow, painful death scenarios.

I agree with you up to a point. I am a classic Zelda fag, and pretty much got stalled forever in my eternal childhood consisting of Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask. They were my first N64 games, and they certainly made me convinced enough to follow the series up to this day. And even though I do not feel "betrayed", I do feel disappointed. I'm one of the few that thinks that Wind Waker would have been perfect had it not tried to be so... kid friendly, to put it blandly, both in appearance and in the little bits of the story. Sure, it still felt like old school Zelda, and the more fluent battle system was rather pleasing. But some things about it were too uncanny. The pirate chick is Zelda, the boat is king Hyrule? There's so much stupidity I can take. For small kids, it might work, but Nintendo has to realize that his audiences grow, and a game that, in its previous instalments, had posed himself as one of the most powerful and fulfilling hero experiences (YOU FRIKING STOP THE MOON FROM FALLING ON EARTH!) I had felt in years, which takes me to my next point: the dark and gritty Twilight Princess. Now, certainly, there is no denying that this was an excellent game, both in setting, themes, motifs, etc... but then I look at what the DS is spawning as supposed Zelda titles. I mean, a sailboat was an interesting premise, as it still held some of the medieval setting that makes Zelda games absolutely grand, but in the "spiritual" succesor, (and I sy spiritual with untold amounts of spite) you use a motor boat, and now we're moving onto trains?! What next?! SUBMARINES!? Surely, it will make the treasure hunting sections of the gaming more interesting, and I think that they can do much worse, and they're proving it.

I disagree with your friends though, OoT is not THE greatest game in history. It's absolutely grand, with an enticing story, an engaging gameplay and a powerful capacity of immersion (I swear, as much as I enjoyed the game, the grittiest, darkest sections of the game would really rack my nerves when I was a kid), but there's been other games that have made me feel just as good or even better. Hailing one game as the best is wrong, as so is comparing games to one another, unless they are extremely similar and actually deserve comparison. So yes, unfortunately, OoT is one of the games I fear I will never play again, together with Final Fantasy IV (but God knows the time I buy another DS after mine got stolen will be when I freeze hell over with my extreme coldness (or they become exremely cheap, whichever comes first).

To wrap up, remember that franchises are all bound to prostitution to the highest bidder. It's a fact as undeniable as the fact that I'll never get laid, and that eventually every single one ends up giving in to the whims of those they will get more money from, or to try to grab their attention and then failing miserably. Sad, isn't it? Not as sad as the fact that you didn't mention crucifixion as method of execution for Navi. I mean, at least Taya was badass and slightly bearable, aside of the fact that she would jingle, not scream like a christmas gnome being grabbed by the balls. But Navi. OH THE NAVI!
You know what game I'd so buy? One where your soul and Navi's exchange place.
People want moral choices? How about the choice between bugging Link for a whole game and completely ditching the tosser.

 

[Tonimata]

Hmmmm... a new title?

I'll think one up, from your info - how about The Legend of Zelda: Daylight Prince?

...And the answer to you would be:
Would you really, REALLY like a midget dude riding you when you become a.........
...Opposite of wolf anyone?

Were-Tiger, y has no one done that before?

I KNEW I WASN'T GOING TO BE THE ONLY ONE TO THINK THAT OPPOSITE!
Good to know I'm not completely mentally unstable.
Then again, completely

 

[DrDeath3191]

Only because there exists no greater premise/concept in video games than "a dork in a green tunic who swings a sword around and yells "Yah!"".

Which is an out and out lie. If that were the case there wouldn't have been much point to make other games because not every one likes playing the same game they've been making since 1993. There's a reason they call it "a story endlessly retold". They would be lost if they had to come up with something new and original. There are far better games and far better stories out there then Zelda.

Few feel so goddamn epic though. I mean, Zelda has pretty much created it's own lore. That's an accomplishment by my standards.

I agree with you up to a point. I really enjoyed the old 2d Zelda games when they were fresh and new. They were really fun to play, and occasionally I'll break one of the GBA carts out and play it on my DS. It was epic. Then I played Wind Waker much later and it was like I was playing a totally different game. I mean all the set pieces were there, but it felt too different. It was like a well built house made out of legos, and someone took it apart and rebuilt it as a modern art statue. People tell me it's great, but it seems weird and out of place.

Then the same people told me how awesome Ocarina of Time was and that no game was better, or would ever be better. Then I played it and hated it because it was the same story as Link to the Past, only with crappy Wind Waker gameplay. Then when I tell those people I hated it, they get insulted and claim that I would have loved it had I played it when it was released. But somehow I don't think I would have.

I don't hate Zelda, I just hate what it turned into. Kind of the same way I hate what Star Wars has become because I love what it was before. And Navi should die in a fire, be resurrected and then drown in a pool of acid. And then be resurrected again and then left out in a blizzard. Repeat process until I run out of slow, painful death scenarios.

I agree with you up to a point. I am a classic Zelda fag--

There's where your opinion officially became moot.

 

[Rect Pola]

Um, yay?

I'm not going to fuss about a Zelda game using a prior title's framework as a base. There have actually been a lot of Zeldas that heavily borrowed elements from other games.

Majora's Mask - the obvious the goto => 3 day repeat
Phantom Hourglass - direct sequel => touch screen only play
Spirit Tracks - not a sequel, but definitely cribbing off Hourglass => controlling a buddy
Oracle games - inspired by Link's Awakening => multi-world map & linked stories
Four Swords - visually IS Link to the Past with 4 people => you need to ask?

Are you seeing a trend here? Besides using established material to speed development, they also forced themselves to experiment with gameplay and story since the basic stuff had been done with that framework.

For me at least, Twilight Princess had not only the most fleshed out Hyrule ever, but the most engaging way the adventure unfolded and expanded as you traveled. Not to mention a lot of really cool toys. I wanna see what they do new besides enhanced swordplay.

 

[Tonimata]

Only because there exists no greater premise/concept in video games than "a dork in a green tunic who swings a sword around and yells "Yah!"".

Which is an out and out lie. If that were the case there wouldn't have been much point to make other games because not every one likes playing the same game they've been making since 1993. There's a reason they call it "a story endlessly retold". They would be lost if they had to come up with something new and original. There are far better games and far better stories out there then Zelda.

Few feel so goddamn epic though. I mean, Zelda has pretty much created it's own lore. That's an accomplishment by my standards.

I agree with you up to a point. I really enjoyed the old 2d Zelda games when they were fresh and new. They were really fun to play, and occasionally I'll break one of the GBA carts out and play it on my DS. It was epic. Then I played Wind Waker much later and it was like I was playing a totally different game. I mean all the set pieces were there, but it felt too different. It was like a well built house made out of legos, and someone took it apart and rebuilt it as a modern art statue. People tell me it's great, but it seems weird and out of place.

Then the same people told me how awesome Ocarina of Time was and that no game was better, or would ever be better. Then I played it and hated it because it was the same story as Link to the Past, only with crappy Wind Waker gameplay. Then when I tell those people I hated it, they get insulted and claim that I would have loved it had I played it when it was released. But somehow I don't think I would have.

I don't hate Zelda, I just hate what it turned into. Kind of the same way I hate what Star Wars has become because I love what it was before. And Navi should die in a fire, be resurrected and then drown in a pool of acid. And then be resurrected again and then left out in a blizzard. Repeat process until I run out of slow, painful death scenarios.

I agree with you up to a point. I am a classic Zelda fag--

There's where your opinion officially became my new bible .

Misquoting to insult me and completely disregard my arguments in favour of indulging your ego will not either lead us anywhere fast excepting, of course, the eventual flame war that arises when and argumentator feels offended, by the way.

Just informing, is all

 

[Eatbrainz]

the zelda series is the only reason i still have a wii